die hard bills fan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 No one is giving Beane enough credit. He is a master conspirator. It's all been planned out the moment he took office. How to tank but still sell the season to gullible fans? 1. Don't sign key free agents in off season-Too expensive 2. Replace above in draft - cheaper and younger 3. Keep mediocre QB as best chance to win 4. Hype #1 wr before preseason. 5. Work out deal with future HOF to sign for a week and then retire 6. Get everyone excited for playoff run 6. Sell lots of tickets 7. Get everyone to buy in 8. Spring the trap and roll in the tank. 9. There's more to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I would argue that Hopkins has put up numbers without a good QB. A talented WR can make a QB look better than he is. A fair point. But probably the exception to the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Things like this keep making the Bills looks like a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I don't blame him, either. Having a QB like TT didn't help matters, I'm sure. Â But, anyways...I hope you are right. The next logical step for this franchise is to try and land the best QB in the draft, and tanking gives us the best odds for that. Â I'm ready...bring on the tank! Then why the heck did he sign here in the first place? Is he (and his agent) really that stupid and unaware of who is the QB in Buffalo just a couple weeks ago when he signed the deal to come here? Â Tanking worked so well for Pegulas other team.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hey, here's a thought...  Maybe he just Really wanted to retire a Buffalo Bill!   lol  Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just what a typical Bills fan in denial says Dude did have sub 9.0 ypc last season. That's down there with the RB's averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's what I've been saying for years. OBD is built on a Seneca burial ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Man, I miss Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He saw where this train was going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Then why the heck did he sign here in the first place? Is he (and his agent) really that stupid and unaware of who is the QB in Buffalo just a couple weeks ago when he signed the deal to come here? Â Tanking worked so well for Pegulas other team.............. Yeah, I knew the stupid Oilers would get like their 3Rd first overall pick in the last decade with McDavid, despite the Sabres having a the best chance at getting that pick. It did work out for the Oilers, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) "You are 17 going on 18..."🎶🎵 Edited August 21, 2017 by thunderingsquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Boldin after a week in Buffalo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We need to trade McCoy and Tyrod. Rebuilding hurts, but it has to be done. When we get our QB, it wouldn't matter who we have at WR. A good QB makes a mediocre WR look good it's never the other way around. AJ Green. Larry Fitzgerald. Andre Johnson. Eric Moulds. Steve Smith Sr. Terrell Owens. Â These are just a few of the great NFL WRs who have made mediocre QBs look good. There are many more. Â There are many ways to build a winning team in the NFL. Burning down the roster and expecting a rookie franchise QB to be successful is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 And I love how people are saying "trade Shady!" now, like any team will eat that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 There are many ways to build a winning team in the NFL. Burning down the roster and expecting a rookie franchise QB to be successful is not one of them. Or as the Colts are thinking: Â If it weren't for bad Luck we'd have no Luck at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) I can picture the stress on Beane face now. Probably thinking how the heck am i gonna explain this in the next interview. Â Doesn't get much worse than this for him. For him to speak so highly about Boldin to just see him quit the league. Man. Â Only thing that would top this is if he spoke highly about his marriage and loyalty and then someone showed him a live video of his wife in a 3some, with Sammy and Darby. Yikes. Edited August 21, 2017 by HuSeYiN_NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Only thing that would top this is if he spoke highly about his marriage and loyalty and then someone showed him a live video of his wife in a 3some, with Sammy and Darby. Yikes. Sounds more entertaining than this season is shaping up to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Boldin should read this post, and reconsider............ Â Hey Boldin, You're the perfect fit for our team........ Tyrod can't hit a speedster over the middle in stride......... Â We need a guy just like YOU, running slow motion across the middle......... wave your arms and shout "Hey Tyrod" "look at me, I'm open"............ Â And 10 seconds later, he will throw you the ball......... Â There's 50 catches for you this season, just like that............ Â Come on, man, why you wanna quit ??? Edited August 21, 2017 by B Fan in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 As soon as we get a decent franchise QB, nobody will remember any of this, including trading Sammy. Probably because we will all be in our 80s LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I bet McCoy is next. What else is he going to say. Wanted to spend more time with his family. Â I believe him. I have no reason to doubt him. Who knows......maybe they looked at him running down the field with the speed of Herman Munstera and decided they would cut him but gave him the chance to retire to save him that embarrassment. Â Lol and too true. Perfect. I think Herman was a punter though. Not a tank, they traded Herschel Walker. The team was 3-13 the year before. They did a lot more than that by turning their entire roster over, but yes the Walker deal was the key to facilitate said turnover. They also got Troy with the first pick in the draft before the HW trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 @salsports Bills players had no idea Boldin was retiring when they saw him Sunday morning at OBD. Most found out the same way we did: via Twitter Straight Marrone'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I still don't think we are going to dish Shady. The defense looks ready and we just need the run game to be there and we will be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 So our WR corps is looking worse than last year. We're going to be bad this year aren't we? Yeah, we probably are. I really think our D is gonna be pretty good. But our O will likely be bad. Â As another poster in another thread said: 2014 all over again. Â This is just getting sad. We need to trade McCoy and Tyrod. Rebuilding hurts, but it has to be done. When we get our QB, it wouldn't matter who we have at WR. A good QB makes a mediocre WR look good it's never the other way around. Never? Â Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Football has afforded me a platform throughout my career to have a greater impact on my humanitarian work. At this time, I feel drawn to make the larger fight for human rights a priority. My life's purpose is bigger then football http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000832739/article/veteran-wr-anquan-boldin-retires-after-14-seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017  @spotrac     With Boldin out of the fold, the #Bills have just $8.9M in 2017 cap allocated to 12 WRs, 4th fewest in the league. Without checking, I am gonna guess Carolina might have even fewer cap dollars tied up in wideouts this year than Buffalo. The not paying for receivers is something I expect to be a calling card for this regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Why can't we have nice things? We can...we just trade them away Without checking, I am gonna guess Carolina might have even fewer cap dollars tied up in wideouts this year than Buffalo. The not paying for receivers is something I expect to be a calling card for this regime. So no superstar WRs for this team.....wonderful....what will they pay for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We can...we just trade them away So no superstar WRs for this team.....wonderful....what will they pay for? Â I was hoping Bills would have signed Rick Wagner RT some how some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Â So no superstar WRs for this team.....wonderful....what will they pay for? Â So I have now checked. The Bills are 29th in total WR $$s spend in 2017 the Panthers have a little more committed ($13.3m) and are 26th. If you want to know where the Panthers typically have money tied up it is obviously Quarterback where Cam has a cap hit over $20m (on a deal signed 2 years ago that is firmly in that middle rung of NFL QBs now) and Derek Anderson is one of the better, and better paid, backups. They also have big money tied up on their defensive line. Two very well paid DTs (sound familiar?) and decent money on edge guys too. They pay their center well, they carry pretty big running back cap hits (mainly cos of Stewart), have a well paid tight end and the highest cap hit for a kicker in the league. Already that sounds not dissimilar to the Bills cash breakdown. However, where they do have a significantly different profile to the Bills cap position is at linebacker. Do Beane and McDermott believe in paying a MLB big money or is Kuechly just that good that he is a special case? The Bills instead have a franchise LT tied up and are paying a veteran guard (Carolina's got two good young guards still on rookie deals but they don't have a recent history of paying big on the line beyond their center - after Jordan Gross retired they have mainly sifted through other people's FA trash for a starting LT - Michael Oher and now Matt Kalil). Â So I think there you have it.... expect money to go on the front 7 on defense and on what they see as "leadership positions" more generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Damn I just bought my jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm sure he has his reasons. Pretty good chunk of change he's walking away from. Â They clearly felt better about trading Sammy once they brought him in. Now it gets interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) he looked pretty much done to me anyway; never understood why he signed with a no-QB, rebuilding team in the first place. the trades/tank prospects scared him off. I don't blame him, really. just wait until the guys with big contracts start quitting on the effort about mid season this year; watch how many guys go on tropical vacations during the bye week. gonna have to hold your nose this year. it will get bad I fear Edited August 21, 2017 by jmcraig44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Without checking, I am gonna guess Carolina might have even fewer cap dollars tied up in wideouts this year than Buffalo. The not paying for receivers is something I expect to be a calling card for this regime.  there are 20 players on Carolina with a cap hit higher than the highest paid WR.  as soon as Beane/McD passed on Sammy's 5th year option.....I started saying he is GONE.  so yea, going forward, I don't see a high paid WR on roster anytime soon  Boldin leaving as much as $4 mil on table is mostly on Boldin (not beane/mcd)......I suppose he realized the Bills do not have a legit shot at a championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 What's Justin Armour up to these days? Or maybe Avion Black's available... Ruvell Martin is ready to go. Easily could put up 80 yards and a td this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hard not to think retiring Anquan Boldin abandoned a sinking Bills ship http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/28708/hard-not-to-think-retiring-anquan-boldin-abandoned-a-sinking-bills-ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Only thing that would top this is if he spoke highly about his marriage and loyalty and then someone showed him a live video of his wife in a 3some, with Sammy and Darby. Yikes. Well at least that would explain the trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) And I love how people are saying "trade Shady!" now, like any team will eat that contract.It's basically $6m per year and would come with pretty much no penalty to get out of at any time. I think shady could get 3 years, 18m and no guarantee on the open market. I don't expect a trade but not as big a stretch as some portray Edited August 21, 2017 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's basically $6m per year and would come with pretty much no penalty to get out of at any time. I think shady could get 3 years, 18m and no guarantee on the open market.  I don't expect a trade but not as big a stretch as some portray  Yep. That contract has basically stopped being prohibitive for a trade now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Insert a picture of JMatt on the front of a super man costume! Yehaw! All is fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Without checking, I am gonna guess Carolina might have even fewer cap dollars tied up in wideouts this year than Buffalo. The not paying for receivers is something I expect to be a calling card for this regime. Think you are right. I know for a fact they believe in not paying CB's that why they run a cover 3 zone scheme. I am thinking the only positions they may pay for on offense is the QB and lineman. On defense its linebackers and pass rushers and maybe safties. That is it Edited August 21, 2017 by Protocal69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Hard not to think retiring Anquan Boldin abandoned a sinking Bills ship http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/28708/hard-not-to-think-retiring-anquan-boldin-abandoned-a-sinking-bills-ship  This part is obvious. It's also obvious that he had no better options to stay in the league since the Bills were a long shot bet to begin with. He had a great career but he probably should have retired a year or two ago. Edited August 21, 2017 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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