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  1. 1. If it were a given that the new head coach would be someone from our past, who would you pick?

    • Greggo
      1
    • Marrone
      4
    • Marv
      3
    • Reich
      16
    • Rex
      1
    • Saban....well.....his nephew
      15
    • Schwartz
      62
    • Wade
      93
    • Other...please name
      8


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I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle.

 

The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us

 

The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy.

I was thinking that in many other languages the adjective comes after the noun, which is why in French NATO is abbreviated OTAN, because it refers to an organization and all the other words are adjectives.

 

Has anyone on this board ever brought up the fact that "BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO" is a complete sentence?

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I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle.

 

The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us

 

The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy.

Excellent recovery ... well played!

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I vote no to any of the prodigals.

 

New blood, younger than 50 is needed. Though, if I was water boarded to make a choice: Wade.

 

The Particle Sun thing reminds me of story a nurse told me: The young Mom just delivered her baby. She overheard the Doctors talking about the presence of meconium. She was so overblown by the sound of that, she named the baby Meconium.**

 

 

 

 

 

 

** at the click thru: meconium is fecal matter

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I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle.

 

The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us

 

The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy.

 

My theory is you meant Prodigal Son but because you apparently have a less than firm grasp of the English language and its grammatical structure, it became Particle Sun

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I'm astounded at the level of scholarship here. Someone worked out that the Aramaic words for "particle sun" and "prodigal son" sound alike, so there's a biblical reference. Amazing.

 

If we could stop talking about this it would be a mute point. But it doesn't really matter so it's moot.

 

I learn so darned much on this board, I'm amazed I can still think at all.

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This thread reminds me of typing "misheard lyrics - Yellow Ledbetter" on Utoob. But for all intensive purposes it's good for a laugh. I couldn't go from one post to the next without chuckling, little lone trying to read the whole thing at once.

 

PS - I voted for Tom Coughlin. Not for nothin' but I figure since he started his head coaching career at RIT that's close enough to Buffalo to qualify him as the best Particle Sun this half-fast thread can a bite by.

 

Make me fries.

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This thread reminds me of typing "misheard lyrics - Yellow Ledbetter" on Utoob. But for all intensive purposes it's good for a laugh. I couldn't go from one post to the next without chuckling, little lone trying to read the whole thing at once.

 

PS - I voted for Tom Coughlin. Not for nothin' but I figure since he started his head coaching career at RIT that's close enough to Buffalo to qualify him as the best Particle Sun this half-fast thread can a bite by.

 

Make me fries.

This post keeps on giving. Seriously good comic relief, as a pose to the stuff that gets that LOL emoji just to be polite.

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You added the second part of your post after I answered the first. The Prodigal Son is a Biblical reference and is derived from the Particle Sun. The "Prodigal Son returns" is of course something I have heard, and it is about something returning with feelings of guilt, in this case a child....a son. When they were writing that chapter of the Bible they called it "Particle Son" as a play on words. Dialects and such have created the word prodigal. The phrase in the Bible came after the phrase Particle Sun, so I choose to use the original. It's not a big deal really, and I am not anti-religious or anything, I just think the original, in this case, is a more clear idiom.

 

The Christians stole The Prodigal Son from the Pagans' story of The Particle Sun.

 

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Particle sun is a pretty famous idiom....I know idiom sounds like idiot but it is an actual word. There are a lot of famous ones like "a piece of cake" meaning something that is easy.

 

Particle sun means something that left and came back again. It originated in ancient times and is so old I'm not sure there is a verified known source. It basically means that not everything will go your way but sometimes it will come back to you or even feel guilty and come back. Think about the sun. It shines a lot of light and brightens our world. But most of the sun's rays shine away from the Earth. The proverb says how sad this is. It is so old though that they didn't really have a lot of scientific differentiation in terms so a particle and a ray were basically the same thing. They were smart enough to know that the other planets did not shine their own light. So when Jupiter, Mars or Venus were visible in the sky, they knew it was a reflection of the sun's rays...or particles...that had missed earth. So when the particle sun returned, it was a happy time as it helped to light our darkest hours, the night. The legend went so far as to say that the particle intentionally bounced off a planet and headed back to Earth out of guilt.

This is a photo of Nolanysus, the goddess of the particle sun.

 

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I'm assuming Saban is Nick. They are supposedly second cousins.

 

He is the obvious answer for me if so. He's on the verge of his 6th National Championship. He and Belicheck have been the best coaches in football for 15 years. Obviously it's not realistic but give me the best coach and I'll take my chances. In addition, he will bring stability, discipline, credibility and accountability to an organization that desperately needs it.

I assumed Lou Saban.

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