Gray Beard Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle. The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. I was thinking that in many other languages the adjective comes after the noun, which is why in French NATO is abbreviated OTAN, because it refers to an organization and all the other words are adjectives. Has anyone on this board ever brought up the fact that "BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO" is a complete sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle. The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. Excellent recovery ... well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Excellent recovery ... well played!He really sured up his point there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Pacifically speaking, I've enjoyed the irony. Thanks. PS Schwartz was my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Saban, may be 2nd cousin but more like a practical son to Lou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Schwartz #1 Wade #2 (because of his age only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary. How weird is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I believe you mean prodigal sonThank you Mark and Reverend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I vote no to any of the prodigals. New blood, younger than 50 is needed. Though, if I was water boarded to make a choice: Wade. The Particle Sun thing reminds me of story a nurse told me: The young Mom just delivered her baby. She overheard the Doctors talking about the presence of meconium. She was so overblown by the sound of that, she named the baby Meconium.** ** at the click thru: meconium is fecal matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Wade/Schwartz combining for almost 80% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Wade/Schwartz combining for almost 80% 80% of a sun's particles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I can see why you would think this but you have to remember that it was ancient times when the idiom was born. There are two schools of thought on why the phrase is particle sun instead of sun particle. The first, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that the bright star in the sky was simply known as "the sun", the this was shortened from "the origin sun". People got sick of saying "look at the origin sun", so they shortened it to the informal "look at the sun". The offshoots of the sun were obviously much less prominent. The particles had already left then but their light still reached Earth. So technically it was still the sun shine, but it was the "particle sun" because it had been splintered and made its way back to us The other theory has to do with language. In spanish for example red is rojo and pen is pluma. But to say "the red pen" you would say "la pluma rojo"...or roja but that is another topic. The theory goes that the language of origin for particle sun was more like spanish than english and once the phrase became so prevalent it stuck, sequence and all, in all languages. Some people even believe that the abbreviation P.S. originated as particle sun, not post script. They say that P.S. means you were done writing, but then thought of something else so the writing came back, like a particle sun. They say that it was changed later on to post script by the Catholic church as some sort of way to keep scribes wages down. There is more detail to this theory but personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. My theory is you meant Prodigal Son but because you apparently have a less than firm grasp of the English language and its grammatical structure, it became Particle Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 80% of a sun's particles? wade 60% jim 20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 wade 60% jim 20% The Bills really should interview Wade. He would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 jesus christ, it's ihlarious to see who intentionally spells things wrong and who doesn't. it makes me want to slit my wrists, that'd be one helll of a womb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'm astounded at the level of scholarship here. Someone worked out that the Aramaic words for "particle sun" and "prodigal son" sound alike, so there's a biblical reference. Amazing. If we could stop talking about this it would be a mute point. But it doesn't really matter so it's moot. I learn so darned much on this board, I'm amazed I can still think at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 ...personally I think the people who espouse it are a little crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I have to hand it to 4mer. One little hook in the thread title, and he's reeling them in. That's some mighty fine trolling. Schwartz for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 "Particle sun" lmao 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Did the Police do that song on Ghost in the Machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 The last time the Bills played good, hard-nosed ball was under Greggo. That said, I don't condone his antics/practices at N.O. Watch out for Cleveland's defense next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Instead of lamb basting you guys for not having the mental wear with all to keep up with 4mer's explanations, I just shake my head in disbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Wade has had 2 chances and failed as head coach. He is a fantastic defensive coordinator though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Please vote and/or comment Before choosing an answer, I knew Schwartz and Wade would hands down be the two top vote getters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 This thread reminds me of typing "misheard lyrics - Yellow Ledbetter" on Utoob. But for all intensive purposes it's good for a laugh. I couldn't go from one post to the next without chuckling, little lone trying to read the whole thing at once. PS - I voted for Tom Coughlin. Not for nothin' but I figure since he started his head coaching career at RIT that's close enough to Buffalo to qualify him as the best Particle Sun this half-fast thread can a bite by. Make me fries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 My vote is Schwartz and Saban, respectedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 This thread reminds me of typing "misheard lyrics - Yellow Ledbetter" on Utoob. But for all intensive purposes it's good for a laugh. I couldn't go from one post to the next without chuckling, little lone trying to read the whole thing at once. PS - I voted for Tom Coughlin. Not for nothin' but I figure since he started his head coaching career at RIT that's close enough to Buffalo to qualify him as the best Particle Sun this half-fast thread can a bite by. Make me fries. This post keeps on giving. Seriously good comic relief, as a pose to the stuff that gets that LOL emoji just to be polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 For all intensive purposes, has anyone pointed out yet that the OP probably meant "portico sum"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Guess I didn't realize it was pick a past coach at today's age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 For all intensive purposes regarding lamb basting, I like to use a red wine / veal stock / herb mixture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 You added the second part of your post after I answered the first. The Prodigal Son is a Biblical reference and is derived from the Particle Sun. The "Prodigal Son returns" is of course something I have heard, and it is about something returning with feelings of guilt, in this case a child....a son. When they were writing that chapter of the Bible they called it "Particle Son" as a play on words. Dialects and such have created the word prodigal. The phrase in the Bible came after the phrase Particle Sun, so I choose to use the original. It's not a big deal really, and I am not anti-religious or anything, I just think the original, in this case, is a more clear idiom. The Christians stole The Prodigal Son from the Pagans' story of The Particle Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Which past Bills loser would you like to rehash? Kind of like asking if you'd rather vomit back up a piece of rotting meat laced with cyanide or strychnine. I vote for "none...look to the future." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Particle sun was funny until it was serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I picked Rex. Since he had his lap band removed, I think he has the most particles. Just a guess though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Particle sun is a pretty famous idiom....I know idiom sounds like idiot but it is an actual word. There are a lot of famous ones like "a piece of cake" meaning something that is easy. Particle sun means something that left and came back again. It originated in ancient times and is so old I'm not sure there is a verified known source. It basically means that not everything will go your way but sometimes it will come back to you or even feel guilty and come back. Think about the sun. It shines a lot of light and brightens our world. But most of the sun's rays shine away from the Earth. The proverb says how sad this is. It is so old though that they didn't really have a lot of scientific differentiation in terms so a particle and a ray were basically the same thing. They were smart enough to know that the other planets did not shine their own light. So when Jupiter, Mars or Venus were visible in the sky, they knew it was a reflection of the sun's rays...or particles...that had missed earth. So when the particle sun returned, it was a happy time as it helped to light our darkest hours, the night. The legend went so far as to say that the particle intentionally bounced off a planet and headed back to Earth out of guilt. This is a photo of Nolanysus, the goddess of the particle sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I'm assuming Saban is Nick. They are supposedly second cousins. He is the obvious answer for me if so. He's on the verge of his 6th National Championship. He and Belicheck have been the best coaches in football for 15 years. Obviously it's not realistic but give me the best coach and I'll take my chances. In addition, he will bring stability, discipline, credibility and accountability to an organization that desperately needs it. I assumed Lou Saban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 The Bills really should interview Wade. He would be great. I know I'm waiting with baited breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Did the Police do that song on Ghost in the Machine? Closest thing I can recall is Black Hole Sun by Soundgarden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Pagans who worship the partical sun are the very same people who created Valentimes Day. Be careful, it's a doggy dog world out there. When I am in Chinatown I order Brew Right at the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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