Freddie's Dead Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 La'el Collins is to OT as Rodger Saffold is to OG. Let's hope we can get 1/2 season out of him before the bottom just falls out like Saffold. Could be good depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Whoa! Up to 6.25m?! I literally just made a thread of our Projected Draft Capital. Not only would this be an overpay, it could cost us a Comp Pick next season. Wow. I hope most of the "up to" is incentives and it isn't really close to that much. I mean, that's more than we paid Edwards - who was the presumed starter at Guard. Are we planning on Starting Collins at Guard now? I was for this move at depth. But that price tag is puzzling. Up to. If he ends up starting the whole season, is an All Pro, cures cancer, and negotiates ends to the Ukraine and Gaza situations. Then and only then does he make 6.25M 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 36 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Up to. If he ends up starting the whole season, is an All Pro, cures cancer, and negotiates ends to the Ukraine and Gaza situations. Then and only then does he make 6.25M Yeah, it's not much of a concern to me anymore as even though he was released last season and not this season - he's still not counted on the Comp formula. At up to 6.25, I had some concerns that the base may have been over 3 and thus cancel out one of our picks we're projected to get from Gabe Davis or Leonard Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Up to. If he ends up starting the whole season, is an All Pro, cures cancer, and negotiates ends to the Ukraine and Gaza situations. Then and only then does he make 6.25M Based off his injuries it's more likely he cures cancer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 14 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: How exactly did we "nuke" the OL? Morse was slightly above average some games, but mostly average. McGovern, Dawkins, Torrence and Brown return. Edwards as well. Yes Connor likely moves to C. But that could be a very good thing. Morse didn't hold up against 3-4 style, or anytime DT was in a 0 or 1i technique. Edwards and Collins battle it out for LG. Combined OL is just as good, if not better. With Torrence likely improving and Brown as well. We haven't even had the draft and you're prognisticating a bad WR room. Let's see what happens in draft to start. 1st round WR and double dipping sometime later, and all of a sudden we might have a more diverse group since 2020 This ^ . Morse was routinely pushed around by a quality nose or 1 tech. Morse wasn't worth the cap it. Let's see what the draft brings. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Yawn. This is a camp move only...and if anything comes out of it I'll be shocked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 17 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have heard he's terrible now. Source ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 14 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: Morse wasn't worth his contract at this point of his career. And since you brought up injuries, Morse is always 1 concussion away from being done/career ending. He also seems to battle through elbow injuries each year, and is not getting any younger. Bates was versatile. But it's very possible that Alec Anderson is our Swiss army guy at IOL. Loser of Edwards/Collins battle also gives depth. And we signed Clapp, who has solid starting experience. Starting OL will be just as good, if not improved. Remembering Torrence as a rookie and Brown showed his potential with a full offseason regimen (not coming off surgery/injury). OL is least of concerns with the current roster. Glad you’re optimistic. Depth wasn’t needed last year but it was great to have jt when needed. I for one am not looking forward to a few injuries leading to Josh running for his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 10 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: La'el Collins is to OT as Rodger Saffold is to OG. Let's hope we can get 1/2 season out of him before the bottom just falls out like Saffold. Could be good depth. I doubt Collins is being brought in to compete for OT. He's competition for LG and possibly the swing role. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 19 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He's totally washed. you wanted a dirty player that smells? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 WHEN HEALTHY, he is dominant. Is he healthy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 11 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Up to. If he ends up starting the whole season, is an All Pro, cures cancer, and negotiates ends to the Ukraine and Gaza situations. Then and only then does he make 6.25M And he's well-worth 6.25M if he does all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Yantha said: WHEN HEALTHY, he is dominant. Is he healthy?? Correction: when healthy he WAS dominant. But he lost his starting job with Dallas in 2021 and even before the unfortunate injury with Cincy in 2022 he had been anything but dominant. There was a stretch there where he was one of the best right tackles in football... but the last two years we saw him on the field he wasn't close to that. He is only 30. The talk seems to be that the Bills would be willing to try him at guard, maybe that revitalises him somewhat, but if they have signed him to play OT it will not work out well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buckets said: Source ? I just text Brian Baldinger and he verified my statement. Edited April 5 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Nice depth signing. You would like knowing he is there as a back up if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) https://billswire.usatoday.com/lists/8-things-to-know-about-new-bills-ol-lael-collins/ https://youtu.be/f_z8E6E3iYo?si=hGKK6dA5x9GBcB5q Impressive speed for an OL with power This guy has started 86 games. Can play Guard or OT. At the very least, he should be competing for a starting spot in camp Regardless of what the base salary is, the "Up to 6" is intriguing. I think there is a small chance Beane could package Spencer Brown to move up the board like we did with Cordy Glenn Either Collins or Edwards could be used as "TE3" in Jumbo packages Edited April 8 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 He's a 79 in Madden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 “If you want to know about me, it’s better to ask me about my mother,” Collins told SportsDay. “My father was incarcerated. She raised me. I grew up against all odds in a neighborhood where a lot of kids are either dead or in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) This man once tried to bribe the NFL’s drug tester. Legend. Seems high risk, high reward and obvious competition for David Edwards. I can still see them drafting a 4th or 5th round LG to be the eventual starter. Edited April 8 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/4/2024 at 10:19 PM, Freddie's Dead said: La'el Collins is to OT as Rodger Saffold is to OG. Let's hope we can get 1/2 season out of him before the bottom just falls out like Saffold. Could be good depth. If his knee is ok he could provide really solid depth, and thats a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/4/2024 at 11:19 PM, Freddie's Dead said: La'el Collins is to OT as Rodger Saffold is to OG. Let's hope we can get 1/2 season out of him before the bottom just falls out like Saffold. Could be good depth. except Saffold was 35. Collins is 30 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Still waiting on those contract deets and the base salary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Still waiting on those contract deets and the base salary! Yeah, nothing yet. When I heard he was signed I figured it was a total in-case-of-emergency signing and he would probably retire in TC when it was clear he was totally washed or there was a better young player ahead of him. Like Brandon Shell did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Interesting. Injury prone. Hopefully he plays at least 3/4 of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Wouldn’t shock me if VanDemark or Gouraige is added to a move-up deal, especially if it involves the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/4/2024 at 4:21 PM, bill8164 said: What did he sign for us? Spencer Brown's new contract?😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) Suddenly wondering if Brown is a possibility in a package to Chicago for the 9th pick. Would absolutely not surprise me. If it means able to keep the two seconds next year I’d be ok with it. If it got us Nabers or Odunze. And I love Brown and hate the current reboot on the Oline already. Odds this is possible? To Bills Pick 9 To Bears 28 60 2025 first Spencer Brown Edited April 9 by Big Blitz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Suddenly wondering if Brown is a possibility in a package to Chicago for the 9th pick. Would absolutely not surprise me. If it means able to keep the two seconds next year I’d be ok with it. Odds this is possible? To Bills Pick 9 To Bears 28 60 2025 first Spencer Brown So you get pick 9, you give up #28, next year's first, your starting RT, and #60, and then you are waiting till day 3 for your next pick? And you are counting on Collins to be your new starting RT? I hate it, in CAPS. Edited April 9 by Dr. Who 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: What did he sign for us? Spencer Brown's new contract?😂 The reported deal was "up to 6.25m" for 1 year. "Up to" surely implying the most he could get with incentives, maybe with void years. But considering he shouldn't be paid anything *close* to 6.25m - there's some curiosity on what the actual base number is. Edited April 9 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Wouldn’t shock me if VanDemark or Gouraige is added to a move-up deal, especially if it involves the Giants. VanDemark could have a little value to the Giants. with the Collins signing, I do believe there is a slight possibility Spencer Brown is traded with pick 28 to move up in Round 1 like Cordy Glenn was. If Brown is in a deal to NYG for 6, perhaps we could keep pick 60 by including him 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Suddenly wondering if Brown is a possibility in a package to Chicago for the 9th pick. Would absolutely not surprise me. If it means able to keep the two seconds next year I’d be ok with it. If it got us Nabers or Odunze. And I love Brown and hate the current reboot on the Oline already. Odds this is possible? To Bills Pick 9 To Bears 28 60 2025 first Spencer Brown counter: 28, 2025 1st, Spencer, 4th for #9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 IMO This signing was so unexpected that I do consider if Beane was either asked for Spencer Brown in a potential trade up the board or if he plans to use him as bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: IMO This signing was so unexpected that I do consider if Beane was either asked for Spencer Brown in a potential trade up the board or if he plans to use him as bait Not really unexpected. The Bills lost two OL this off-season. They need depth. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: IMO This signing was so unexpected that I do consider if Beane was either asked for Spencer Brown in a potential trade up the board or if he plans to use him as bait He’s played plenty at LG, them looking to trade Brown doesn’t make a ton of sense. Collins being direct competition for Edwards is my bet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He’s played plenty at LG, them looking to trade Brown doesn’t make a ton of sense. Collins being direct competition for Edwards is my bet. you’re probably right. I just prefer the X-Files approach to everything 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I know the Diggs trade is still a bit shocking, but you don’t trade a young ascending starting RT on a rookie deal. That would make me question whether Beane is doing his best John Butler before he went to the Chargers impression. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 what year is this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lael-collins-17403/#:~:text=La'el Collins signed a 2 year%2C %2415%2C400%2C000 contract with,carrying a cap hit of . 1 year - $1.75M contract fir Collins, according to spotrac. Much more in line with expectations, rather than the "up to" $6.5M that was reported after his signing 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 15 hours ago, Estro said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lael-collins-17403/#:~:text=La'el Collins signed a 2 year%2C %2415%2C400%2C000 contract with,carrying a cap hit of . 1 year - $1.75M contract fir Collins, according to spotrac. Much more in line with expectations, rather than the "up to" $6.5M that was reported after his signing Lol I just found out and came to post this. Sportrac doesn't say anything about incentives but it doesn't mean there aren't any. Anyway, it is a low cap hit, but at the same time it's all guaranteed, so he is either lock to make the roster or leaves us with $1,5M dead cap and no savings if cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) On 4/9/2024 at 9:30 PM, BuffaloRebound said: I know the Diggs trade is still a bit shocking, but you don’t trade a young ascending starting RT on a rookie deal. That would make me question whether Beane is doing his best John Butler before he went to the Chargers impression. Na Beane wouldn't be dumb enough to give two QBs franchise type money contracts. Edited April 12 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Looks like he’s the Bates replacement rather than the Brown replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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