BarleyNY Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: could also not have major guarantees in year 2 if they sign another and draft one it could be 3 guys less than 10m agreed. no word on guarantees yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 32 minutes ago, Success said: We missed him against KC. He's a solid player, and still pretty young. Good w/ this. I agree. I thought he was really starting to come on late in the season. Plays with great energy. Flies to the ball. I like this signing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I agree. I thought he was really starting to come on late in the season. Plays with great energy. Flies to the ball. I like this signing. Stats support this, he only missed 3 (5.7%) and gave up 11 catches on 18 targets, which isn’t bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I'd bet my bottom dollar that the words "up to" are doing a lot of heavy lifting in the "can earn up to x amount" signing announcement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Not a major surprise especially when Beane claimed last year we thought Rapp as a possibile replacement for Poyer. I'd add another vet and draft a kid to compete. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 As long as he figures out how to pick up his effing head when arriving 2nd to the ball carrier moving forward, I'm happy with this. Lotta unfortunate and compromising collisions can be avoided if he stops lowering his helmet like a dummy. Mostly he'll do his own guys (and himself) a favor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Fair deal, he is a starter imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Rapp brings some physicality to a defense that practically has none. Nice signing and would like 3 or 4 more with some attitude, please. Edited March 7 by JimmyNoodles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: As long as he figures out how to pick up his effing head when arriving 2nd to the ball carrier moving forward, I'm happy with this. Lotta unfortunate and compromising collisions can be avoided if he stops lowering his helmet like a dummy. Mostly he'll do his own guys (and himself) a favor. I agree. I think we both love his aggressive play, but he makes some bone head decisions. Pull it back 10%, get your head up and hit with controlled violence. Edited March 7 by SoonerBillsFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, MWK said: What a terrible deal. He was a liability last year. Personal fouls incoming. He was one of our most physical defensive players. He didn’t play much because he was behind two all pros that McD was not sitting despite below average play. I thought when Poyer and Hyde were out the D looked stronger with Rapp filling in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I hope it's for big nickel. But weird move, Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 At worst he’s a capable safety, not a ballhawk by any means. Maybe a little too much Donte Whitner to his game. That said, I like the move, I’d almost guarantee this deal is back heavy with this year not counting much more than $2M-$3M against the cap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I think Beane just announced this last so he can say that's a Rapp on my day. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 things: 1. "Up to" means best-case scenario. Maybe he only earns 10 million and he's a 3.4 million player. I can live with that. And if he hits incentives and makes 4.5 million a year, bully for him. 2. McD knows his secondary. He ain't perfect as a coach, far from it, but he knows his defensive backs. I'll trust his judgment here, especially after turning Poyer and Hyde into a top safety unit after they were JAGs, over other opinions here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 He had a rough start but played well down the stretch once he calmed down and stopped trying to murder people. We missed him against KC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, DapperCam said: Don’t like that at all why? Thought he brought a great intensity back there that McD loved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Most likely McD will be able to mold him into a solid starter. That’s his specialty. And he is fearless. Edited March 7 by nedboy7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 We are about to lose our starting safety tandem It will be his second year in our defense. It is a good idea to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Thought he really came on last year - INT v Miami one of the best plays of the year. I think it was more a really poor decision and throw than a great play by Rapp. My initial instinct is that I don't like this deal. At times I thought that Rapp was a liability on the field and he appears to be in the Jordan Phillips mold of committing incredibly stupid penalties at the worst times. I'll wait to see what the contract actually looks like though before fully judging it. The initial headline pumped out by the agent is probably laughably overstated. But I think there will be true starting caliber safeties on the market for a similar cost so I don't know why we rushed to get this extension done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, NickelCity said: I hope it's for big nickel. But weird move, Beane. That's an interesting thought. Maybe they see him as Siran Neal's replacement, similar cost but gives you more on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 With all the DB”s available in a flooded FA market we resign this bum? I don’t get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said: With all the DB”s available in a flooded FA market we resign this bum? I don’t get it. If there is one position where I’ll give McDermott the benefit of the doubt… its Safety Edited March 7 by Aussie Joe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 6 hours ago, Process said: Looks like starters money to me.. 6 hours ago, MWK said: What a terrible deal. He was a liability last year. Personal fouls incoming. Always wait for the details to come out on a contract. "Up to" means, if he meets all the incentives. Let's say there are $2.5M in incentives. $12M/ 3years or $4M/yr is like 28th in the league money for a safety - yeah starter money but barely I'm not a fan of this signing - I don't think he's fit to carry Poyer's cleats or Hyde's jock, but let's wait and see what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 So playing style wise, rap takes poyers place Now we need to figure out who the free safety is going to be and we need some depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Bills let most of their one year rentals walk. If they gave him a new deal, I’m going to trust what they saw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't mind it if it is a "he gives us a baseline going into FA and draft" but man.... if he is to start???? Big downgrade even on 2023 version of Jordan Poyer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, Process said: Looks like starters money to me.. What In the world did Taylor Rapp do to earn a raise? Last I checked nobody wanted him last year and he signed for vet min. The Safety market is loaded in free agency what's the fricken hurry for? Rapp is always hurt every yr he gets injured definitely has some coverage flaws I hate this signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't mind it if it is a "he gives us a baseline going into FA and draft" but man.... if he is to start???? Big downgrade even on 2023 version of Jordan Poyer. They will bring in a FA and draft another guy ( at least 1) … so let’s see if he beats them out to a starting role … I do think you have underestimated him a tad …he improved over the course of last year from a pretty crap start … He is one of the more physical players they have on D … so perhaps that is something that the new defensive coaches ( or scheme) values more than previous.. Edited March 7 by Aussie Joe 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Everyone they wanted Jeremy Chinn let's forget about that now. Damn. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They will bring in a FA and draft another guy ( at least 1) … so let’s see if he beats them out to a starting role … I do think you have underestimated him a tad …he improved over the course of last year from a pretty crap start … He is one of the more physical players they have on D … so perhaps that is something that the new defensive coaches value more than previous.. I am not sure where the improvement you saw was because it didn't show up to me on tape. Even compared to 33 years olds Hyde and Poyer he was comfortably worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, GunnerBill said: I am not sure where the improvement you saw was because it didn't show up to me on tape. Even compared to 33 years olds Hyde and Poyer he was comfortably worse. In your opinion… Obviously McDermott feels differently… does he have much of a history identifying talent at Safety? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, Aussie Joe said: In your opinion… Obviously McDermott feels differently… does he have much of a history identifying talent at Safety? He also went into a season with Jaquan Johnson and Damar Hamlin as his only backups. He isn't unfallable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't really like this deal. But McDermott knows safeties better than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 It's always good to have someone back there that puts a little fear in a WR's head. I like it. Now we need a very good, athletic, smart compliment to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Surely we don't plan to have Rapp as a starting safety in a conventional two safety package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I thought he got better as the season went on. He plays with his hair on fire. I like it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 my read is we run a scheme that takes away the big long stuff and is open to being misdirected and eaten up underneath (see all of our playoff losses vs reg season stats) so i think our brain trust figures they can scheme decent guys up to run the system, but need play making ability because if we don't make plays we just get ground up. rapp seems to be out of place in coverage but has a green light and brings some lumber, so i suppose they figure he's going to improve in the former, but keep the latter in his second season w us. our safety play was garbage in the kc home game, save one lucky hit by poy to get that turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 To the people that think this is bad, go back and look at the comments when we signed Poyer and Hyde. Nobody thought those 2 would end up being what they were. Beane and McDermott arnt gonna sign a guy unless they think they can have an impact. Obviously it doesn't ALWAYS work (sherfield and Harty) but generally speaking, I trust beane and McDermott to know what they're doing. Nobody thought Bernard was gonna be good at middle linebacker, yet somehow every season we keep winning. So, let it play out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, Steptide said: To the people that think this is bad, go back and look at the comments when we signed Poyer and Hyde. Nobody thought those 2 would end up being what they were. Beane and McDermott arnt gonna sign a guy unless they think they can have an impact. Obviously it doesn't ALWAYS work (sherfield and Harty) but generally speaking, I trust beane and McDermott to know what they're doing. Nobody thought Bernard was gonna be good at middle linebacker, yet somehow every season we keep winning. So, let it play out So I liked the Hyde signing. A lot actually. I didn't know anything about Poyer. On Rapp we have seen him in this defense. He isn't a total liability on the field but he os what he is. A replacement level starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Another case of this regime just getting married to a guy they have seen before and not going for the better option out there. Rapp was not good, and to put the cherry on top, dude was always hurt when he had to play. I don't even know how he fits McDermott's scheme. All the guy does is give up long plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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