Realist Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Aging, concussion history, 8 million cap hit...not sure why so many are surprised at this one. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Realist said: Aging, concussion history, 8 million cap hit...not sure why so many are surprised at this one.  Not.  It’s just a sad day.  These guys were all cornerstones - and make zero mistake Mitch absolutely was.  4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Why didn’t we keep Bates?  In Bates 5 seasons in Buffalo, he has had 203 snaps at Center. That's a little over 3 games. I think us fans penciled him in as "heir apparent" Center too quickly. They know what they had with Baters at Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 so who do we draft as the backup to McGovern and Edwards? A center, guard, someone who can play both (who does that in college anymore?)  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Morse was a leader. I hope he calls it quits and doesn’t take chances w his brain anymore. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Realist said: Aging, concussion history, 8 million cap hit...not sure why so many are surprised at this one.  not everyone is the Realist that you are! Just now, nedboy7 said: Morse was a leader. I hope he calls it quits and doesn’t take chances w his brain anymore.  OL coach somewhere?  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I am a bit surprised on this one. Though another restructure might be in order. I thought once Beane finally got the OL right he would stick with it another year. I thought it was more likely he would retire than get cut. When he said he was coming back, I thought ok, one less hole to fill. They can focus on WR and DL. I criticized this contract from day 1. He was never as good as his contract paid him. But for what he provided the OL and Allen it was probably worth it.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 This is the only move I don't like so far today. The rest I get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I was very wrong about this one . Did not think he would get cut outright.  I owe some other posters an apology.  That being said I don’t agree with this move. I think it’s a mistake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 31 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Imagine @GunnerBill's surprise when he wakes up  Cutting Morse isn't a surprise. It was something I advocated for. But I'd have kept Bates as part of that. To be without both does surprise me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Ok this one I have some concerns about. First of all, not cutting Morse. It was time, he gets bulldozed at times, is old, and waaay overpaid. Good move. BUT, if you knew you were going to cut him, then why trade his projected replacement in Bates? That seems puzzling. Also not sure about McGovern to center. We FINALLY had stability at the guard positions. Now who knows how Edward's does. Center just became a draft priority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Concussion, aging center in the twilight of his NFL career the Buffalo Bills made the right call here on Mitch Morse in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Â Cutting Morse isn't a surprise. It was something I advocated for. But I'd have kept Bates as part of that. To be without both does surprise me. Â Â Yeah surprised me as well. Â I thought Morse would be cut and then Bates would be traded at the end of TC. Â But the plan now, according to Shil Capaccio is for McGovern to start at C and Edwards be LG1. Â As I've mentioned before, Â I really want them to get some players out of this deep draft class at OL. Â This opens up some roster space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Â Â Yeah surprised me as well. Â I thought Morse would be cut and then Bates would be traded at the end of TC. Â But the plan now, according to Shil Capaccio is for McGovern to start at C and Edwards be LG1. Â As I've mentioned before, Â I really want them to get some players out of this deep draft class at OL. Â This opens up some roster space. Â Yea I just said that in the Edwards thread. I gotta think one of our first four picks is gonna be on a lineman now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Feels like McGovern was brought in to be the eventual replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: this is concerning to me.  Everybody evaluates differently but Dallas repeatedly tried to make McGovern a more versatile player by giving him reps and time at center in the spring and camp. They concluded he can not play center.  I feel like they just weakened the strength of the team. For the time being yes it is weaker but let’s see how it unfolds before judging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Beast said: Not a fan of this.  We will be taking a clear step back next season.  That’s the spirit. Midseason form is early March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Ooof. Not sure I like this one. Our O line was pretty damn good last season for the first time in Allens career really. Now they are going to mess with two positions of it? Morse is a good center. Last time I seen him go out it cost us games. Is what it is I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:  Yea I just said that in the Edwards thread. I gotta think one of our first four picks is gonna be on a lineman now! Not sure I agree. They probably think their starting 5 is set, and like Anderson as backup C and probably Van Demark as backup LT. It they think Anderson can backup all 3 interior spots, they could definitely wait till the 5th or later to draft OL.  I do think they’ll look to draft at least 2 OL - 1 interior and 1 tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I'm OK with the Morse move, but for the relatively paltry cap savings from trading Bates not sure it was worth moving him as well. Looking forward to seeing what he does with that pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Any chance he’s brought back for much less of a cap hit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Any chance he’s brought back for much less of a cap hit? that's an interesting question. I guess anything is possible? *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Blank Stare said: I think this McGovern to center thing is the exact type of thing you’d want out there if you’re the Bills and targeting a center in the draft. Personally I think it'll be Anderson and I'm good with that. The one position on line that was a bit light in the ass was Morse at C. Anderson fits the physical mode the Bills have been building their line with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I think there’s a good chance that a couple of the top two/three centers will be available later in the second round.  Another young mauler next to Torrence would be nice to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Wow, I'm just catching up on things. Daam, I liked Morse from a leadership/ person standpoint but I get the reasoning. I hope our next center is a real anchor up front, that the only knock I had against Morse.  A big thank you to Mitch for being an outstanding member of the Buffalo Bills. A class act though and through. Will be missed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I think McGovern will be just fine in that spot  Lots of pics this year one of them will be a center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Well right now they're saying McGovern at center but there's a good chance that our center for next year isn't on the roster yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, f0neguy said: I think there’s a good chance that a couple of the top two/three centers will be available later in the second round.  Another young mauler next to Torrence would be nice to see. I am betting on a center in Round 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Joe Marino (on his podcast) gives a good breakdown on why the Bills may view McGovern better at C than he was at G.  Hides his vulnerability in the run game and allows him to showcase his athleticism more.   Edited March 7 by SCBills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 5 hours ago, Realist said: Aging, concussion history, 8 million cap hit...not sure why so many are surprised at this one. He was not old for a Center. In the 5 years he's been here he's played in 17,16,13,17, and 14 games. Pretty durable if you ask me. Is there some concussion history, yes. Draft and develop a guy, and than make your move. It's doing it without a replacement yet, that really sucks. And I'm sorry, as good as this regime has been, I don't have a lot of confidence when it comes to the oline. It took them way too long to get it right in the 1st place, only to tear it down after 1 year. Passing on Humphrey, drafting Ford, trading teller. Edited March 7 by Allen2Moulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Any chance he’s brought back for much less of a cap hit? That doesn’t usually happen with veteran players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rew Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 They have to feel pretty good about McGovern at C. I didn't think they would move on Morse till next season after this year's day 2 center draft pick has some reps, but if Connor has demonstrated he can do it the cap savings are great. Dawkins has looked good with multiple guards next to him, not too concerned about them filling that gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't think McGovern was very good at guard. I hope they are not already determined to make him the starting center, he may not be good enough. Obviously there is a lot of time, draft, free agency, etc. until next season, hoping they have a plan where McGovern is a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I don't think McGovern was very good at guard. I hope they are not already determined to make him the starting center, he may not be good enough. Obviously there is a lot of time, draft, free agency, etc. until next season, hoping they have a plan where McGovern is a backup. Not sure where you’re coming from with that McGovern was excellent at pass protection  He’s never gonna be a mauler in the run game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Biggest concern is we lose 5 captains, likely. Hyde, Gabe, ,Po, Morse and Mactavitch , he might be re signed cheap though.  Need guys like Dawkins, Oliver, Milano even though he's not a rah rah guy and maybe Douglas to step up their leadership as vets. 4 hours ago, SCBills said: Joe Marino (on his podcast) gives a good breakdown on why the Bills may view McGovern better at C than he was at G.  Hides his vulnerability in the run game and allows him to showcase his athleticism more.   nice. then Edwards could slide right into LG and can groom a rookie or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: Biggest concern is we lose 5 captains, likely. Hyde, Gabe, ,Po, Morse and Mactavitch , he might be re signed cheap though.  Need guys like Dawkins, Oliver, Milano even though he's not a rah rah guy and maybe Douglas to step up their leadership as vets. Douglas was a team captain for the Packers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, John from Riverside said: Douglas was a team captain for the Packers That's right! Well that's great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Any chance he’s brought back for much less of a cap hit? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Not sure where you’re coming from with that McGovern was excellent at pass protection  He’s never gonna be a mauler in the run game Just not real confident he will be a good starting center. If that's their plan, I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Sad to see Mitch go. It's the way of the world but he was a proper Bill to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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