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12 hours ago, JMM said:

VERY concerned about that forecast.  Would absolutely be a possible equalizer and favor PERFECTLY the style and strengths of their team. 

 

Eh it kind of favor's ours too though.  This is why you get Josh allen - big arms, hands, running ability.  This is why you have 2 solid TE's.  Why you grabbed fournette and murray.  

6 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

People are still scarred by that pats wind game lol 

 

That we only ran allen 6 times in that game is sort of criminal.  

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5 hours ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

I posted this wondering if we could glean anything from the preseason loss against the Steelers. Two pages in and not one point or reference to that game has been mentioned. 😂

 

In the past, I would worry that the Steelers could "out physical" Buffalo. But in this case I don't think that's going to happen. Buffalo is physical enough to hang with Pittsburgh and Tomlin's old school style.

 

I know Tomlin talks up the offensive and defensive lines. The Bills need to be prepared to compete at the line of scrimmage, much like that they did against Miami and Dallas.

 

If the weather is windy and cold, that will limit the downfield passing game, and limit the amount of time Josh can operate out of the shotgun. In the preseason, I think Josh took every snap out of shotgun and I am not sure that Dorsey ran the ball at all.

 

I guess it's going to be a super physical game.

 

Unless the game plan is for Josh to use his arm to cut through the wind (?), which I think would be the wrong approach.

 

 

Felt like mostly offensive line/wrs blocking related penalties that derailed us on offense in the preseason game.  My only memory of that game was us having like a 3rd and 30 lol I think no watt and a whole season of the offensive line getting snaps will clean that up 

 

I remember being more worried about the defense after that one though…Steelers marched right down and scored back to back drives 

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38 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:


Johnson’s concussion and the weather may combine to dictate that both Fournette and Murray dress and play a good amount.

I've loving Lenny on this team. Always liked him. I sense a big moment coming from him 

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12 hours ago, Simon said:

 

The Stillers reputation as a tough running team is more historical than it is a current reality, imo.

The Bills have more rushing yards, a better rushing average, more rushing TD's, more first downs rushing, etc.

 

I also think there is a certain level of wind which all but eliminates the Stillers passing attack, while only only somewhat hampering the Bills. Josh Allen can drive the ball through some winds that Mason Rudolph cannot.

 

If there is a legitimate equalizer to fear, it is having 8" of snow on the field.


Good point.  When Kenny Pickett was running Matt Canada’s offense there was no fear of passing and defense stacked the box.  
 

You routinely saw Najee Harris get stuffed for 2 yard gains each time.  

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The Bills "hosted" the Steelers at the Rogers Centre in Toronto in an August 2008 preseason game. The Bills were up big in that game, eventually winning 24-21. The Steelers went on to win the Super Bowl in Feb 2009. This season, the Steelers were up big on the Bills in preseason. Just sayin...

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28 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

This is why the Bills have to have a run game.

Was just gonna say that. Paging James Cook

I think ya'll looking too much into this pre-season game

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This comment is coach speak to challenge his team and keep them fired up against a much lesser opponent. 
 

“I dunno guys - seemed like they were the tougher group….” 

 

….when it’s preseason, back ups are playing and there’s no scheme conveniently left off of his remarks 

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13 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

It’s funny because we have been largely a finesse team and weather has not been an advantage. We actually have a run game now, we will see if that changes. I don’t know how the weather helps us though. 

 

Do we?  

 

The Dallas game was a thing of beauty: Cook hitting nice holes with burst and vision.  

 

But against the Fins, for example, both backs averaged less than 3 yards per carry.  Josh's plunges and scrambles were our run game.  

 

Bad weather hurts passing teams.  We're a passing team.   

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10 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

This comment is coach speak to challenge his team and keep them fired up against a much lesser opponent. 
 

“I dunno guys - seemed like they were the tougher group….” 

 

….when it’s preseason, back ups are playing and there’s no scheme conveniently left off

 

Yeah this is McD keeping billboard material to a minimum. Chess match with Tomlin.  Probably a defensive struggle

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3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Do we?  

 

The Dallas game was a thing of beauty: Cook hitting nice holes with burst and vision.  

 

But against the Fins, for example, both backs averaged less than 3 yards per carry.  Josh's plunges and scrambles were our run game.  

 

Bad weather hurts passing teams.  We're a passing team.   

The Steelers are down Watt,  we'll be a running team lol

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12 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Weather can be an equalizer, yes.  But I'd say overall a weather game benefits whichever team has a 6'5 240 lb stampeding antelope at QB

 

Keep in mind that Pitt’s QB is 6’5 235 pounds and for some reason has decided to play well the last three weeks after being terrible for most of his career.

 

My main concern with the weather is being able to kick field goals if necessary. For whatever reason (injury, confidence, etc) we do not trust Bass to kick long this year. We have not even attempted a field goal over 50 yards in over 10 weeks. We either go for it on 4th down or punt. 

 

Add in 20+ mph winds and i’m thinking that field goal range is going to shrink even further.

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53 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

If there's no TJ Watt, then there had better be one hell of a game plan for Cam Heyward. That guy always seems to get his stats against us. 

 

I kept hearing the same thing about Melvin Ingram this past week..

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1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Eh it kind of favor's ours too though.  This is why you get Josh allen - big arms, hands, running ability.  This is why you have 2 solid TE's.  Why you grabbed fournette and murray.  

 

That we only ran allen 6 times in that game is sort of criminal.  

You make a good point,  our TE's could be a key, and if we can get Playoff Lenny going...Pitt has a terrific TE too of course.

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13 hours ago, Simon said:

 

It's not mentioned there but there is actually some potential for a serious lake effect event next Sat/Sun as well. :ph34r:

 

move the game to Detroit or Miami (their stadium is not being used)! 

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Weather being such an X variable, I don't know how much we can really take away from that last meeting, if anything. So much has changed since then as well, regardless of the impending weather. All I know is, I like our D against the reindeer at QB, our QB's ability to make good things happen with his legs, and how James Cook brings a whole new element/ability to pound the rock even against top D lines (Dallas comes to mind) in inclement conditions. We just need to protect the rock, avoid dumb fumbles in the snow and play the way that we know we are capable of! Back in the day weather at Rich in the playoffs was always perceived to be our friend, and used to our advantage where the no-huddle still hummed along at its high level while the others were left slipping and sliding around aimlessly...why shouldn't we have that swagger again?     

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1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Weather being such an X variable, I don't know how much we can really take away from that last meeting, if anything. So much has changed since then as well, regardless of the impending weather. All I know is, I like our D against the reindeer at QB, our QB's ability to make good things happen with his legs, and how James Cook brings a whole new element/ability to pound the rock even against top D lines (Dallas comes to mind) in inclement conditions. We just need to protect the rock, avoid dumb fumbles in the snow and play the way that we know we are capable of! Back in the day weather at Rich in the playoffs was always perceived to be our friend, and used to our advantage where the no-huddle still hummed along at its high level while the others were left slipping and sliding around aimlessly...why shouldn't we have that swagger again?     

 

exactly this.  We have a big armed QB, lets let it rip like we did in the 90s.  We have good receivers, 2 TEs who can catch.  No excuses here.  

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Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

exactly this.  We have a big armed QB, lets let it rip like we did in the 90s.  We have good receivers, 2 TEs who can catch.  No excuses here.  

Don't make me pull the Miami 1990 winter game out of the youtube archives, where our passing attack in the snow was as fearsome as ever!! 🤩  

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I remember how it was said around the time of the preseason game that Tomlin did a little game planning as they were angry at how bad we beat them last year. I have to imagine using that motivation tactic twice may have some diminishing returns on their side

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If weather is a big factor in this game, that makes me more nervous especially since the Steelers have been dominating the trenches in recent weeks and have had success pounding the football which has opened up some of these big pass plays they've hit on.

 

But at the same time, this is what the Bills have been trying to establish themselves as for years with little success until this year...a physical running team that can built for games exactly like this if need be.

 

So if's a repeat of the Dallas game where JA17 isn't a big factor and passes for 100 yards sign me up all day if it means a win in a playoff game.

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14 hours ago, Simon said:

 

The Stillers reputation as a tough running team is more historical than it is a current reality, imo.

The Bills have more rushing yards, a better rushing average, more rushing TD's, more first downs rushing, etc.

 

I also think there is a certain level of wind which all but eliminates the Stillers passing attack, while only only somewhat hampering the Bills. Josh Allen can drive the ball through some winds that Mason Rudolph cannot.

 

If there is a legitimate equalizer to fear, it is having 8" of snow on the field.

Rudolph throwing the ball down field has helped their running game the last couple of weeks. The wind is a factor with Rudolph, if our defense is going to take that chance and play it that way. If we play back anyway, it will remind me of the offense during that wind game against the Pats a couple years ago. And I will once again be "yelling why are you doing that" at the tv.

 

I also with you on the snow. Don't know if Ty will be available, but it will be nice if we can get Fournette to their middle backers not named Roberts.

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14 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

They're a good team even without Watt they’ll have both WRs and Freirmuth (we have stunk against tall physical TEs) is a problem.  
 

Warren and Najee will not be easy either.  
 

Oh and they have nothing to lose and we’re coming off a massive emotional win.   
 

 

 

Do not take this team lightly. 

That absolutely needs to be the message.


The O/U is now 35.  

and Buf is a 10 point favorite.  2.5 points more than any other gm. 

 

They also beat us week 1 last year

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57 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Don't make me pull the Miami 1990 winter game out of the youtube archives, where our passing attack in the snow was as fearsome as ever!! 🤩  

I was there, big difference was it wasnt very windy

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57 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

and Buf is a 10 point favorite.  2.5 points more than any other gm. 

 

They also beat us week 1 last year

2 years ago… that was the 2021 season opener (first time with full capacity in the stands since the end of the ‘19 season)

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Sean is emphasizing that the Steelers need to be taken seriously, and the Bills can’t be mentally lazy about this game, the teams back is still against the wall, it’s win or go home, I think Sean and the entire team actively understands this, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

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1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Don't make me pull the Miami 1990 winter game out of the youtube archives, where our passing attack in the snow was as fearsome as ever!! 🤩  

Its funny. I was watching a game from that era. I'm pretty sure it was Denver. Elway was backed up to his goal line and it was so loud he told the ref. The ref announces to the crowd to quiet or there would be a penalty. Was always curious when crowd noise went from a penalty to the 12th man advantage.

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33 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

2 years ago… that was the 2021 season opener (first time with full capacity in the stands since the end of the ‘19 season)

duh. pardon me, I'm bugging, ya last year was opening night demolishing the Rams. Their my sneaky pick to make a run, 7-1 since their bye week

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7 hours ago, MPL said:

We could have been playing another home game in pristine Miami next week but nooooo the boys had to go out and win the division 😂

 

Yeah, that was such a Billsy thing to do. 😉

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16 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

The Steelers are also coming off a big (divisional) win, no?

 

Their win was against a team that had already locked up the #1 seed and was resting its starters. Had the Ravens been playing full-strength, then yesterday would have been locker clean-out day in PIT.

 

By contrast, our win was over a team that was desperate to beat us, partly because we've owned them over the past few years, but mostly because the division title and playoff seeding were at stake.

 

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They beat the Ravens twice (first one was with Lamar) by identical 17-10 scores. Dominated Bills starters on both sides of the ball in the preseason (calling for Bills to play starters in the last preseason game). Even without Watt, and with Rudolph at QB (who has played surprisingly well), this is a dangerous opponent, and I am sure the Bills will prepare accordingly.

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