Bills @ Chiefs Postgame Thread

[ColoradoBills]

I feel like Cosmo Kramer at the OTB.

 

 

 

 

 

[Man with No Name]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

5 points lower than their season avg.  They lucked out that Toney lines up Offside which is extremely rare or that game was lost.  I'll give him credit that they won the game but that wasn't a great showing.  This team needs to do better.  McD is undefeated after the bye but IIRC those were mostly close games just like this one.  Hopefully play better next week because Dallas has the best O in the league right now, while KC is like 12th.

the thing i feel good about is I think we are usually outcoached by teams like the chiefs. i don't believe the cowboys are nearly as well coached. 

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Charles Romes said:

he basically said refs never call that. Refs give warnings to the player before they actually make that call.  

LOL. They called in the 2019 AFC championship game vs dee ford and it cost KC a trip the to the SB. They didn’t warn Ford either. 

 

[BurpleBull]

Mahomes crying the entire post-conference interview about Toney being called for the infraction. Whining about how Kelce won't get the enjoyment of seeing his throw be replayed on ESPN a million times. Guess this is the reaction of his team not getting calls or having calls go against them.

 

If dude doesn't get fined something heavy for criticism of the refs, I swear. 

[NickelCity]

4 minutes ago, sven233 said:

 

2:12 left...... Chiefs have 2 TOs.

 

Run the ball on 1st down to the 2 minute warning.

Run the ball on 2nd down.  Force the Chiefs to use a TO.

Run the ball again.  Force the Chiefs to use their last TO.

 

If you just pick up that last first down, you can take a knee.....run the clock down to a couple seconds and kick a short game winning FG with no time left for them to get the ball back.

 

Instead, they passed every time, didn't get the first down, left them with basically a full 2 minutes and 2 TOs to go on a potential game winning drive.

 

Worst case if we didn't get the 1st down running on those 3 plays would be giving them the ball with just about a minute left and no TOs.  Sure, no guarantees, of course, but it would have been a much better situation at worst.

 

Yep. That was bad decision making. The diggs drop I can forgive the play call on. Second down have to run.

[Dan in Owego]

1 minute ago, Charles Romes said:

he basically said refs never call that. Refs give warnings to the player before they actually make that call.  

maybe he did it was pretty loud, would like to see the replay

[CircleTheWagons99]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

Very interesting to hear.

 

Volume up

 

 

This made me laugh out loud. I was expecting something else. 

[Nitro]

2 minutes ago, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

Gabe was wide open for a td 

Allen did not see it.  Unfortunately

[ToGoGo]

2 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

They're supposed to check-in with Pat before they call a penalty on the Chiefs. 

Exactly. 

[Best Williams Available]

22 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

But frankly our skill players might be even worse so glad we could eek that one out on the road. 

We need a new term for “skill” players then if they have none. 

[Tim Tindale]

20 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Agreed

 

Time was never going to be the issue for Patrick Mahomes. We had to get one stop and the clock wasn’t the obstacle. 

[Beast]

I’d be pissed if I was Mahomes, Reid or a KC fan as well.

 

Not at the refs but at Toney for clearly being lined up Offside.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

Lol Mahomes is facing the first string of adversity ever in his career, and is absolutely losing his mind over it.

He knows he’s staring a road playoff game in the face and he hates it HAHAHA

[Malazan]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

Lol Mahomes is facing the first string of adversity ever in his career, and is absolutely losing his mind over it.

 

Pat wasn't so concerned about the refs after they barely beat the Jets with a ridiculous call

[Dan in Owego]

Did the 12 men really affect the missed field goal??? 

[BillnutinHouston]

12 minutes ago, Vark said:

No app but it is on on the website

 

That didn't work for me either.  But after 8:00 it kicked in.

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

Yeah, that's what Romo said.  He commented that refs sometimes don't want to call ticky tack penalties in that situation but that was so blatant they had to call it.

I think when mahomes sees the replay he might soften a bit on this outrage. 

[Maine-iac]

I'm still kinda pissed they ruled that Kelce catch legit after they didn't give us the fumble recovery against the Eagles. 

[fasteddie]

30 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Thank God Toney is a brain dead moron

My brother is a Giants fan (there's no accounting for taste) and he was tired of seeing Toney do the same things for the Giants. He was laughing his a$$ off.

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

the thing i feel good about is I think we are usually outcoached by teams like the chiefs. i don't believe the cowboys are nearly as well coached. 

 

We shall see.  I have always believed we have the talent to make the run.  They just have to do it.

[KellyToTasker]

1 minute ago, sven233 said:

 

2:12 left...... Chiefs have 2 TOs.

 

Run the ball on 1st down to the 2 minute warning.

Run the ball on 2nd down.  Force the Chiefs to use a TO.

Run the ball again.  Force the Chiefs to use their last TO.

 

If you just pick up that last first down, you can take a knee.....run the clock down to a couple seconds and kick a short game winning FG with no time left for them to get the ball back.

 

Instead, they passed every time, didn't get the first down, left them with basically a full 2 minutes and 2 TOs to go on a potential game winning drive.

 

Worst case if we didn't get the 1st down running on those 3 plays would be giving them the ball with just about a minute left and no TOs.  Sure, no guarantees, of course, but it would have been a much better situation at worst.

Over the season it’s been takes on the other side, “Need do more, be aggressive, you have Josh Allen, go get the win.”
 

McDermott was more aggressive tonight and they won. He acknowledged previous games and adjusted. 
 

The Chiefs only needed 13 seconds once before. Bills were coming off an OT loss, on the road. 

 

I’m not over analyzing here. They went for kill shots. The defense didn’t sit back and give up free yards on the last drive. They got the win. Go Bills

 

 

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

Lol Mahomes is facing the first string of adversity ever in his career, and is absolutely losing his mind over it.

Call me crazy, but Toney was offside. And anyway it wadn’t a normal play - it was coming off a catch in bounds and KC was hurrying. Refs can’t intercede there. He and Reid should be embarrassed for KC now losing two big games because players lined up offside at the crucial moment.

[Nitro]

2 minutes ago, BILLieve85 said:

McDermott making this all about him again. 

The man is answering questions asked of him.  

[Forward Progress]

14 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

69 ALWAYS wins!!!

[CircleTheWagons99]

1 minute ago, Dan in Owego said:

Did the 12 men really affect the missed field goal??? 

Nope

[CSBill]

13 minutes ago, Turf Toejam 34 said:

Question----why did the clock stop right before the last Bills field goal?   CBS made it sound like Kincaid caught the pass, which would have had the clock continue to run, and the Bills did not take a time out.   If that was ruled a catch that seems like an officiating error.   

I think it was incomplete 

[Yobogoya!]

Just now, BurpleBull said:

Mahomes crying the entire post-conference interview about Toney being called for the infraction. Whining about how Kelce won't get the enjoyment of seeing his throw be replayed on ESPN a million times. Guess this is the reaction of his team not getting calls or having calls go against them.

 

If dude doesn't get fined something heavy for criticism of the refs, I swear. 

 

Imagine the entitlement to think the Refs are responsible for making sure you don't line up off side.

 

He's right that they give those warnings from time to time. But to think you're entitled to that is just shameful.

 

Shame on you, Kermit.

 

[Unforgiven]

the nfl is fixed.

[Scott7975]

27 minutes ago, Tim Tindale said:

I thought Josh played out of his mind with the OL becoming turnstile. 

 

Agree.  O line was our biggest problem.  Coupled with Diggs dropping too many balls and this aint the first week.

[billsfan714]

Jesus Andy and Mahomes, they threw the flag rightly before you passed it, what do you expect them to pick it up if the result of the play was good after the penalty was committed.   Whiney bastards.

[Don Otreply]

30 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:

Happy they won. But make no mistake, the D gave up the game winning TD in like 3 plays had it not been for a WR gaffe.

McDermott should put Toney on his Christmas card list, 😂

[Tim Tindale]

28 minutes ago, Talley56 said:

Unpopular opinion: With two timeouts, Allen would have taken us down and scored the winning TD if Toney hadn't been Offside.

I think it was three timeouts actually. McDermott called the first timeout to set the D on 4th and 15, pre-Mahomes meltdown. 

[finn]

10 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:

I saw portions of the Hocholi game today, he and his crew were the same today. The league needs to address how they officiate. 

Did they assign that crew to another Eagles game? 

[MikePJ76]

 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Lol Mahomes is facing the first string of adversity ever in his career, and is absolutely losing his mind over it.

He’s right that you normally get a warning but normally you aren’t racing and normally the guy isn’t about 2 feet over the line. 
 

I think once he gets the game tape it’ll click for him but I get why in the moment he could be unfairly hot about it 

[Yobogoya!]

Just now, billsfan714 said:

Jesus Andy and Mahomes, they threw the flag rightly before you passed it, what do you expect them to pick it up if the result of the play was good after the penalty was committed.   Whiney bastards.

 

I mean they literally did pick up the flag after the second blatant Kelce OPI call.

 

Just a spoiled brat who's not used to not getting his way.

[sven233]

1 minute ago, KellyToTasker said:

Over the season it’s been takes on the other side, “Need do more, be aggressive, you have Josh Allen, go get the win.”
 

McDermott was more aggressive tonight and they won. He acknowledged previous games and adjusted. 
 

The Chiefs only needed 13 seconds once before. Bills were coming off an OT loss, on the road. 

 

I’m not over analyzing here. They went for kill shots. The defense didn’t sit back and give up free yards on the last drive. They got the win. Go Bills

 

 

 

Kill shot?  How many balls went to the end zone on that last drive?

[Dan in Owego]

Just now, billsfan714 said:

Jesus Andy and Mahomes, they threw the flag rightly before you passed it, what do you expect them to pick it up if the result of the play was good after the penalty was committed.   Whiney bastards.

They are making themselves look ridiculous😄

[zow2]

yeah and F* pat mahomes.  if Buffalo does nothing else we just sent them on the road for the playoffs

[Big Turk]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

You misinterpret what I said.  I never said the defense didn't play well.  I said they held the 12th ranked offense to 5 points below their average.  I also said we got lucky Toney lined up Offside or we lose that game.  To continue the thought so you understand... I thought the defense played well and our Offense crapped the bed after a fast start.  Both sides of the ball will need to do better next week because Dallas has a good D but more importantly has the best offense in the NFL.  We still got lucky in this game regardless of how well the D played overall.

 

KC is pretty close to an elite defense this year...I didn't think we would keep it up all game long on offense.  They are the only team that hasn't allowed 30 points all season yet.

 

Allen was under duress most of the second half and sometimes only with a 3 man rush...that can't happen, they have to better up front.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Big Turk