starrymessenger Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Well if McD doesn't know what the problem is how likely is he to know the solution? 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: MCD is part of the problem and needs to go Honestly, look at Daboll and Frazier. They both left under unusual circumstances and whispers behind the scenes that MCd is hard to get along with. Seems like things are coming into focus. Daboll and Frazier brought us success. Like them or not, they had our team at a better place than Dorsey and MCd 2023 version 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I'm ready to hear from Pegula 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Beast said: What exactly is “complimentary football”? I know McDermott has been using that term lately. I’m not sure what it is. Is it just another name for we aren’t executing? When McDermott uses the term he means "the defense is playing great, the offense is not making our job easy enough, for example, if they would leave the defense with a nine point lead with 2 minutes to go, my defense could close out the game" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: When McDermott uses the term he means "the defense is playing great, the offense is not making our job easy enough, for example, if they would leave the defense with a nine point lead with 2 minutes to go, my defense could close out the game" LOL…I guess that sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Due to what? A penalty in the endzone and a missed FG. And with the missed FG drive, that was also due to Josh taking a bad sack on third down. I am not saying everything was great today. But not sure what the coach is supposed to say when he is asked about the slow start on offense. Yeah, it would be great to start faster. But even with the slow start, if the players could execute a little better, they would have had 13 points at halftime. They scored 3 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Should have done this… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 What do people want him to say? The ideas that the season is over or we need to tank or firing anyone right now is so ridiculous. Calm down. It’s football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, major said: Honestly, look at Daboll and Frazier. They both left under unusual circumstances and whispers behind the scenes that MCd is hard to get along with. Seems like things are coming into focus. Daboll and Frazier brought us success. Like them or not, they had our team at a better place than Dorsey and MCd 2023 version I want like Mc D and Dorsey and I’m sure they are fine people but I have always got the impression that both are in over their head. I really wish that after 13 secs we put Daboll as HC. Allen is P Rivers at best until there is a shakeup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: These threads confuse me. Do you expect him to say "yeah I suck, I should never have been made a head coach. I'm even a marginal defensive coach." Some version of "I am the head coach the buck stops with me" would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Right, he knows absolutely nothing about offense. Entrusting the entire baby & bathwater to a second year OJT OC with a questionable regimen. Nothing new here. How to correct it is simple. But we don't want to take the path with the tough questions and answers. That play call from Dorsey to throw the ball to the wide open patriot CB on the first Bills offensive play was a bit much. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Offense sucks, period! It's coaching. Dorsey broke it and McDermott won't acknowloege it . Bills lost to a hot mess. Disagree. McD forced it into this and Dorsey has no authority to change it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Some version of "I am the head coach the buck stops with me" would be nice. He has aid that many times. Meaningless, of course it stops with him. Everyone remotely familiar with professional sports knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: That play call from Dorsey to throw the ball to the wide open patriot CB on the first Bills offensive play was a bit much. LOL, but come on, you saw a lot of creativity in our play-calling otherwise today? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Disagree. McD forced it into this and Dorsey has no authority to change it. If Dorsey has no authority to change it, why has it changed so dramaticlly? Certainly looks like it changed to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Chaos said: Should the team quit after a slow start? Teams need to close to win. We had a lead with 2 minutes to go and the leagues worst offensive 75 yards from the endzone. At that point, the rest of the game does not matter. Head coach can't B word "The offense has to leave my precious defense with a nine point lead when they are more than 12 seconds left in a game" We’re in this weird loop where everyone wants to blame a single thing but we’re playing very non complementary football. The offense steps up then the defense disappears or vice versa…bass misses some kicks. It’s absurdly frustrating. Three games in a row the offense did nothing for a long stretch of the game then woke up and the defense could not get a stop. Injuries or not the defense cannot be blameless here. You HAVE to make one of those stops. Giants game doesn’t really count in my mind because they got bailed out with that no pi call Edited October 23, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 If he's being honest and doesn't know why they're struggling the first half, he's not qualified to keep his job. If he's lying and he does know why they're struggling and hasn't fixed it in three games against bad defenses, he's not qualified to keep his job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: LOL, but come on, you saw a lot of creativity in our play-calling otherwise today? It did get marginally better after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Re: 1H offense?? McFired is paid $8.5M $500,000 per game. bullsh#t answer Edited October 23, 2023 by Since1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 There’s this general feeling that “we’ve got Josh Allen, all is good”. I think the other guys just wait for him to make a play. And when the other team schemes to stop Allen right out of the gate, the other players have to step up. So far no one has, three weeks now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Did he drop the "it's hard to win in this league" one? That's a classic Did we take the sails out of our wind? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: It did get marginally better after that. Marginally being the operative word there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Dubie54 said: Q: Over the last three games, you guys have a total of 10 points in the first half. Have you been able to put your finger on anything for the slow start here? SM: I wish I could tell you. I really do. I wish I could tell you. We talk about it. We talk about being more detailed, getting into a rhythm early, playing complementary football and all three phases working together. We haven't been able to get into a good rhythm, obviously, in the first quarter. Let's just start there. So, just overall, we've got find the answers there. I get sick of his BS answers. How about “unacceptable” “we’re not maximizing our talent” “we’re too predictable” etc. etc. oh, but then he might hurt Dorsey’s feelings. Bruh he owes the media and fans zero answers. Just because he won’t throw his guys under the bus or call people out doesn’t mean people aren’t held accountable in private. Fans look to these stupid press conferences for answers wayyyy too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: McDermott has to stop throwing picks, missing field goals, missing tackles, blowing assignments. He should also have his team ready to play while he’s at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, MPT said: If he's being honest and doesn't know why they're struggling the first half, he's not qualified to keep his job. If he's lying and he does know why they're struggling and hasn't fixed it in three games against bad defenses, he's not qualified to keep his job. Do you really think he’s going to call out Dorsey and/or the players in a press conference? THAT will be the fastest way for him to lose the locker room, not covering for people. McD is a process guy, so whatever problems they’re having, his foundational belief is that they need to work that much harder this week to fix the issues, versus something he says in a press conference actually fixing the issues. For instance, the OL has looked horrible recently, so yea he could point that out in a press conference, but it’s going to potentially alienate guys on the team, look to some like he’s deflecting the blame, etc. The best way to calm the critics will be to start winning again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: The final drive, or the one where they created a turnover? Final drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Chaos said: Defense is bad. The injuries are one of the reasons. The injuries are huge. Think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Chaos said: Some version of "I am the head coach the buck stops with me" would be nice. I agree, if he said something like that I'd feel much better too. Personally I can't get enough coach speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLieve85 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, dave mcbride said: The injuries are huge. Think. This won’t be understated. But where are the injuries on offense. Score. 30 to this poor defense’s 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said: Final drive. Really just a poor job executing the fundamental defense. You have 2 guys getting wiped out on blocks, a missed tackle and a huge gain. McD had the right call, just poor execution by the defense. Think that Dorian Williams speed was missed in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLieve85 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I agree, if he said something like that I'd feel much better too. Personally I can't get enough coach speak. But he’s already said that. He’s out of answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, BILLieve85 said: This won’t be understated. But where are the injuries on offense. Score. 30 to this poor defense’s 24. I am talking about the defense. The Bills D has gone in three short weeks from being one of the most talented(and experienced) in the league to one of the least talented (and lesser experienced) in the league. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Do you really think he’s going to call out Dorsey and/or the players in a press conference? THAT will be the fastest way for him to lose the locker room, not covering for people. McD is a process guy, so whatever problems they’re having, his foundational belief is that they need to work that much harder this week to fix the issues, versus something he says in a press conference actually fixing the issues. For instance, the OL has looked horrible recently, so yea he could point that out in a press conference, but it’s going to potentially alienate guys on the team, look to some like he’s deflecting the blame, etc. The best way to calm the critics will be to start winning again. There's a lot of space between "I have no idea what I'm doing" and "it's everyone else's fault." They're both equally bad. He could have said anything and he chose one of the two worst responses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, BILLieve85 said: This won’t be understated. But where are the injuries on offense. Score. 30 to this poor defense’s 24. The offense won the game at the end. The defense then allowed the worst offense in the league (until today) slice through them with utter ease. But it is worth acknowledging that the best four Bills’ defensive players were out. It’s just not their year because of injuries, which absolutely sucks. But it’s real life. Edited October 23, 2023 by dave mcbride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 He never says anything important in the post game interview, win or lose, it’s coach-speak right after a game. He isn’t the only coach like this. Why bother dissecting it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLieve85 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I am talking about the defense. The Bills D has gone in three short weeks from being one of the most talented(and experienced) in the league to one of the least talented (and lesser experienced) in the league. It is what it is. The defense is fine. Sure it’ll have off weeks. But why is the offense not there. The Pats have been bad. Where was this offense that put up 30+ on the Raiders and Commanders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 The sleepwalking starts with him. He often looks like he's subdued. The McDermott Bills roll so long as the game goes exactly as they expect it. When it doesn't, this team struggles mightily to muster the effective counter. Many of the Bills players are soft. Diggs is probably the toughest one they've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: McDermott has to stop throwing picks, missing field goals, missing tackles, blowing assignments. Yeah the coach has nothing to do with what happens. So why do we even one then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Yeah the coach has nothing to do with what happens. So why do we even one then I didn’t realize McDermott gets credit only when we lose. When we win, it’s because the players overcame his sabotage attempt. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Dr.Sack said: I didn’t realize McDermott gets credit only when we lose. When we win, it’s because the players overcame his sabotage attempt. SMH Who said that strawman, not me. You said the coach doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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