Tyrod Taylor in Buffalo

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

He didn't have an amazing game at all, but he had what we remember as a frustrating Tyrod game.  He threw a few really nice deep shots (the 4th down one while not caught was a great throw).  He used his legs to avoid some sacks, and created a few positive plays out of nothing.  Did a really nice job on their 3rd downs all game and kept the Bills offense from getting more possessions.  

 

What he couldn't do was overcome a mostly missing (except for one drive) rushing attack - which was what we probably remember most.  He threw with more rhythm underneath than I remember.  He can be so good between the 20s but once the field condenses he loses that rhythm and is unwilling to throw into tight windows, and the Bills were able to mostly sell out to stop the run.  

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

He didn't have an amazing game at all, but he had what we remember as a frustrating Tyrod game.  He threw a few really nice deep shots (the 4th down one while not caught was a great throw).  He used his legs to avoid some sacks, and created a few positive plays out of nothing.  Did a really nice job on their 3rd downs all game and kept the Bills offense from getting more possessions.  

 

What he couldn't do was overcome a mostly missing (except for one drive) rushing attack - which was what we probably remember most.  He threw with more rhythm underneath than I remember.  He can be so good between the 20s but once the field condenses he loses that rhythm and is unwilling to throw into tight windows, and the Bills were able to mostly sell out to stop the run.  

 

Huh?  We had one of the best rushing attacks in the NFL when Tyrod was here including leading the NFL in rushing one year by a wide margin.  What are you talking about?

Edited October 16, 2023 by Big Turk

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Huh?  We had one of the best rushing attacks in the NFL when Tyrod was here including leading the NFL in rushing one year by a wide margin.  What are you talking about?

 

I'm talking about when opposing teams stopped the bills running attack, and buffalo would struggle on third downs and mostly lose games. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709170car.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201711120buf.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710080cin.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201609110rav.htm

 

 

[Matt_In_NH]

I would like him as a backup....but the Bills cannot afford him.

[Big Turk]

Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I'm talking about when opposing teams stopped the bills running attack, and buffalo would struggle on third downs and mostly lose games. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709170car.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201711120buf.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710080cin.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201609110rav.htm

 

 

 

Yes, because the Bills passing attack was remedial under Greg Roman...same as it was in Baltimore...best run game in the NFL, passing game was like 8th grade level football.

[Matt_In_NH]

10 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

He didn't have an amazing game at all, but he had what we remember as a frustrating Tyrod game.  He threw a few really nice deep shots (the 4th down one while not caught was a great throw).  He used his legs to avoid some sacks, and created a few positive plays out of nothing.  Did a really nice job on their 3rd downs all game and kept the Bills offense from getting more possessions.  

 

What he couldn't do was overcome a mostly missing (except for one drive) rushing attack - which was what we probably remember most.  He threw with more rhythm underneath than I remember.  He can be so good between the 20s but once the field condenses he loses that rhythm and is unwilling to throw into tight windows, and the Bills were able to mostly sell out to stop the run.  

Tha offense is putrid up front......they did what they could, grind out the runs to limit the pass rush, take a few shots and make a few plays here and there to move the chains.   He is limited but he gave them a chance to win by not making mistakes which is his best trait.

[KingBoots8]

I honestly think we would have sleptwalked this vs Danny Dimes. He holds the ball wayyyyy too long. Taylor is still a good QB (not great, but good enough). He had them in this the whole game and a lot of that is thanks to his quick release and playing relatively safe.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yes, because the Bills passing attack was remedial under Greg Roman...same as it was in Baltimore...best run game in the NFL, passing game was like 8th grade level football.

 

Right... Thats what I'm saying though.  If the run game is working then Tyrod can usually do enough to win.  

[dave mcbride]

Taylor played pretty well, I thought. He was accurate, didn't make mistakes throwing the ball, and threw a nice pass on the final play. The ref bailed the Bills out by not calling PI, but it was a good throw.

[MAJBobby]

Classic Tyrod Game.

 

Not going to make the mistakes to lose the football game.

Still deadly accurate outside the numbers on the deep ball.

 

Legs seem like they are pretty much gone at this point in his age.

 

Perfect for me, Tyrod Played well coming back to Buffalo and the Bills still won.  So I can be happy both things happend.

[dave mcbride]

11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Classic Tyrod Game.

 

Not going to make the mistakes to lose the football game.

Still deadly accurate outside the numbers on the deep ball.

 

Legs seem like they are pretty much gone at this point in his age.

 

Perfect for me, Tyrod Played well coming back to Buffalo and the Bills still won.  So I can be happy both things happend.

Totally. To repeat what I said above, the final pass to Waller was perfect, but since they had already called PI the play before, they weren't going to call it again. And the Bills probably knew that.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

Totally. To repeat what I said above, the final pass to Waller was perfect, but since they had already called PI the play before, they weren't going to call it again. And the Bills probably knew that.

They SHOULD be coached it.  Do not give up the easy touchdown.  Get handsy in the untimed down.  They call it again it is just another untimed down.  I know when I played back in the day this is how our defense was coached in HS and College.

[Ramza86]

Still the same player I remember. 

 

Takes a couple of shots a game. 

 

Checks on 3rd down too much.

[RobbRiddick]

Personally I love the old school. That playoff game he started for us against the Jags was a great game, shame we lost. I love a good defensive battle!

[dave mcbride]

7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

They SHOULD be coached it.  Do not give up the easy touchdown.  Get handsy in the untimed down.  They call it again it is just another untimed down.  I know when I played back in the day this is how our defense was coached in HS and College.

As to your point, check this out. It's pretty funny (and true): https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/profootballtalk/should-giants-have-run-on-final-play-vs-bills

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Tryrod has ALWAYS refused to take chances to move the ball and win games with his arm. It's why season after season his stats look good but he doesn't win and is a backup. You could see it on full display last night... Josh Allen surpassed his career total in comeback wins in just a season and a half. Tryrod is a caretaker QB at best who must be on a team with a great defense and a great running game, because if he has anything else you can't rely on him.

[Success]

Taylor did everything he could yesterday.  Considering the state of that O-line and who his receivers are, I thought he was pretty spectacular. 

 

The G-men should have probably won that game.  The decisions to pass at the end of both halves cost them at least 1 TD, and probably 2.

 

 

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

They SHOULD be coached it.  Do not give up the easy touchdown.  Get handsy in the untimed down.  They call it again it is just another untimed down.  I know when I played back in the day this is how our defense was coached in HS and College.

 

Same - if the TD wins the game, don't let them get it and let the refs sort it out.  

[Warriorspikes51]

honestly I'd trade for him right now

[MJS]

He's the perfect bridge QB. Won't lose the game, but won't win it either.

 

I didn't even know he was on that team until Jones got hurt. Why they have been starting Jones instead of him I don't understand. Jones is horrible. Paying him was a huge mistake. Paying Barkley was a huge mistake because Barkley is always getting hurt.

[eball]

32 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Totally. To repeat what I said above, the final pass to Waller was perfect, but since they had already called PI the play before, they weren't going to call it again. And the Bills probably knew that.

 

I love what Taron Johnson said about it.  He basically said "if they call it they call it, but I was going to play it aggressively."  Love that attitude.

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Did he go back to pronouncing his name “Ty-Rod”? 

[The Jokeman]

6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Did he go back to pronouncing his name “Ty-Rod”? 

That's the way it sounded on his "sound bite head shot".

[Figster]

I just want to thank T Mobile for his playcalling skills at the end of the 1st half.

 

Once a Buffalo Bill, always a Buffalo Bill...

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Tyrod had himself a game last night, easily his best performance in years. You could tell this game meant a ton to him. He wasn’t amazing, and at 34 he isn’t the guy we all knew. 
 

I really hope Tyrod Taylor had the same respect from this fan base and organization that Ryan Fitzpatrick does when he hangs it up. 

[SirAndrew]

He deserves credit for his time in Buffalo, but we saw his limitations last night. The Giants win that game if he doesn’t call an audible on the goal line before the half. He’s great at playing mistake free football, but the mental mistakes are huge. He also did poorly with two minute offense clock management. Too many guys walking back to the line at a leisurely pace. 

[Maine-iac]

9 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I'm talking about when opposing teams stopped the bills running attack, and buffalo would struggle on third downs and mostly lose games. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709170car.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201711120buf.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710080cin.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201609110rav.htm

 

 

Roman wasn't there in 2017 (3 out of 4 of those games).  Not that Roman ran a run and shoot passing attack but his offenses typically were in the top half of the league in scoring.  Dennison was calling the plays in 2017 and Taylor was throwing to one legged Benjamin and Deonte Thompson.  One of my biggest fears was that we'd draft a QB in the first and Dennison would be coaching them.  That said we made the playoffs so we won more than we lost but that was largely the much improved defense.

Edited October 16, 2023 by Maine-iac

[DapperCam]

I agree that Tyrod Taylor was a better QB for this game than Daniel Jones. 
 

Jones has a higher ceiling and will score more points, but this is the kind of game he would have given away with sacks and picks.

[Charles Romes]

Yesterday he played well. It reminded me of that big prime time game he had with the Bills against the Seahawks. Just like yesterday he came very close to winning.  

[Goin Breakdown]

9 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

I honestly think we would have sleptwalked this vs Danny Dimes. He holds the ball wayyyyy too long. Taylor is still a good QB (not great, but good enough). He had them in this the whole game and a lot of that is thanks to his quick release and playing relatively safe.

Nah man. Taylor didn't stop the Bills from scoring for 3 quarters. 

[Bills!Win!]

If you combine Fitzpatrick with Tyrod Taylor you get Josh Allen 

[Chicken Boo]

I thought he played very well last night, considering. 

 

Taylor has had a good, productive career and is good enough to stick around in the league, likely, until he's ready to retire.  

 

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

7 hours ago, MJS said:

He's the perfect bridge QB. Won't lose the game, but won't win it either.

 

I didn't even know he was on that team until Jones got hurt. Why they have been starting Jones instead of him I don't understand. Jones is horrible. Paying him was a huge mistake. Paying Barkley was a huge mistake because Barkley is always getting hurt.

I told my buddy before the game, I would rather be playing against Daniel Jones than Tyrod Taylor

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

I honestly think we would have sleptwalked this vs Danny Dimes. He holds the ball wayyyyy too long. Taylor is still a good QB (not great, but good enough). He had them in this the whole game and a lot of that is thanks to his quick release and playing relatively safe.

Tyrod is so much better than Daniel Jones for the giants current situation 

7 hours ago, eball said:

 

I love what Taron Johnson said about it.  He basically said "if they call it they call it, but I was going to play it aggressively."  Love that attitude.

 

The whole thing is much ado about nothing.  Jerseys were gettin grabbed all night (mostly by the giants). Two big uncalled holds killed bills drives 

[Steptide]

The fact that he audibled to a run play at the end of the first half with 9? Seconds left and no time outs is absolutely inexcusable. A guys who's been playing 12 seasons in the nfl cannot do that. He had a decent game last night, but thinking back to those Tyrod years with the bills makes me nauseous. The bills were terrible last night, and so were the giants. I'm happy for the win, but it's a great reminder of how bad the bills once were. 

[May Day 10]

I thought tyrod played admirably and was a warrior out there.  Threw some nice balls and evaded trouble at times.  For a 34 year old qb who has seen very little action in recent years taking the helm of a sliding, injured team in a hostile environment he did great.

 

 

[JohnNord]

11 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

He didn't have an amazing game at all, but he had what we remember as a frustrating Tyrod game.  He threw a few really nice deep shots (the 4th down one while not caught was a great throw).  He used his legs to avoid some sacks, and created a few positive plays out of nothing.  Did a really nice job on their 3rd downs all game and kept the Bills offense from getting more possessions.  

 

What he couldn't do was overcome a mostly missing (except for one drive) rushing attack - which was what we probably remember most.  He threw with more rhythm underneath than I remember.  He can be so good between the 20s but once the field condenses he loses that rhythm and is unwilling to throw into tight windows, and the Bills were able to mostly sell out to stop the run.  

Pretty much a fair assessment of Tyrod.  I remember right after the Bills re-signed him, one of the websites started doing “Quarterback Tiers.”  They ranked Tyrod toward the bottom of NFL QB’s in Tier 3 saying you could win with him if you have solid pieces around but on his own he couldn’t carry an offense.

 

I remember thinking it was BS because he was OUR QB, but it retrospect it was spot on.  
 

The Jacksonville game is what solidified it for me, as the defense went balls out and he couldn’t find a way to get the Bills into the end zone.  

[Albany,n.y.]

10 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

They SHOULD be coached it.  Do not give up the easy touchdown.  Get handsy in the untimed down.  They call it again it is just another untimed down.  I know when I played back in the day this is how our defense was coached in HS and College.

Back in the Rob Johnson days the 49ers kept interfering in the end zone right before halftime and the Bills were forced to kick a FG because they succeeded in running enough time off the clock Wade couldn't risk going into the half without scoring on the drive.  

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

Pretty much a fair assessment of Tyrod.  I remember right after the Bills re-signed him, one of the websites started doing “Quarterback Tiers.”  They ranked Tyrod toward the bottom of NFL QB’s in Tier 3 saying you could win with him if you have solid pieces around but on his own he couldn’t carry an offense.

 

I remember thinking it was BS because he was OUR QB, but it retrospect it was spot on.  
 

The Jacksonville game is what solidified it for me, as the defense went balls out and he couldn’t find a way to get the Bills into the end zone.  

For the Bills during that time it should have been titled "Quarterback tears"

[JohnNord]

7 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Back in the Rob Johnson days the 49ers kept interfering in the end zone right before halftime and the Bills were forced to kick a FG because they succeeded in running enough time off the clock Wade couldn't risk going into the half without scoring on the drive.  

For the Bills during that time it should have been titled "Quarterback tears"

I shed a few watching that QB play, for sure

[Albany,n.y.]

10 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Did he go back to pronouncing his name “Ty-Rod”? 

His parents told him to knock it off with the Tuurod stuff. "We named you Ty-rod and that's how you'll pronounce it son."