SoonerBillsFan Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I have a bad feeling what we have is what we are going with. That's not good. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 9:56 AM, Gregg said: Maybe but I can't recall divisional rivals trading with one another. Pats traded Bledsoe to Bills. Belly got the last laugh there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I'd toss a late pick for someone like Mike Purcell. End of roster 1T who might look better with better players around him and an upgrade over what we have on PS. Also cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 9 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Who's that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 "Trade for Jeudy!!!!" "Give up the farm for Surtain!!!!" More realistic in season Beane move: 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: "Trade for Jeudy!!!!" "Give up the farm for Surtain!!!!" More realistic in season Beane move: I can see Beane doing this as a "Hines replacement" and then him not being used at all on offense despite his speed He could be an upgrade at returner though. I'd do it for a 7th 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) Patterson has had 19 Offensive TD's over the last 2 years..... also had 600+ rushing & 500+ receiving in 2021 695 yards rushing in 2022 despite playing only 13 games I would like this move. He can be lined up anywhere on offense as an "X" factor. The question is would Dorsey actually use him. Edited October 13, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: "Trade for Jeudy!!!!" "Give up the farm for Surtain!!!!" More realistic in season Beane move: Atlanta would be a good candidate for an AJ Epenesa for a 1st round pick deal if they feel they are ready to win that division. Not saying that would be smart on their part.........but I do think if a team did that it would be someone like them. Could expand that and include Patterson for cheap, I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Atlanta would be a good candidate for an AJ Epenesa for a 1st round pick deal if they feel they are ready to win that division. Not saying that would be smart on their part.........but I do think if a team did that it would be someone like them. Could expand that and include Patterson for cheap, I suppose. It would not be smart..... but you know.... Falcons.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I can see Beane doing this as a "Hines replacement" and then him not being used at all on offense despite his speed He could be an upgrade at returner though. I'd do it for a 7th I believe before the season Beane was talking about (I think Isabella) someone possibly stepping in as a KR/PR to allow Harty to focus on just the WR duties he's learning. That to me would be the move if Beane made this kind of move. That would be pretty much all I see Patterson doing here barring injuries. Could be a nice help, but then it's a ST roster spot. IIRC Patterson was a free agent not long ago and it seemed like there was some mutual interest before he went back to the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: "Trade for Jeudy!!!!" "Give up the farm for Surtain!!!!" More realistic in season Beane move: Trade for Patterson? Great. Another weapon that McDermott wouldn’t ever use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Atlanta would be a good candidate for an AJ Epenesa for a 1st round pick deal if they feel they are ready to win that division. Not saying that would be smart on their part.........but I do think if a team did that it would be someone like them. Could expand that and include Patterson for cheap, I suppose. Patterson would be a hilarious add because he would just be Hines part two where he only returns kicks and touches the ball 3 times on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Patterson has had 19 Offensive TD's over the last 2 years..... also had 600+ rushing & 500+ receiving in 2021 695 yards rushing in 2022 despite playing only 13 games I would like this move. He can be lined up anywhere on offense as an "X" factor. The question is would Dorsey actually use him. We have a complicated offense. It would take him two years to get on the field. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Patterson has had 19 Offensive TD's over the last 2 years..... also had 600+ rushing & 500+ receiving in 2021 695 yards rushing in 2022 despite playing only 13 games I would like this move. He can be lined up anywhere on offense as an "X" factor. The question is would Dorsey actually use him. "You don't play with the toys you have! I'm not buying you any more!" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I just read Albert Breer's Friday new column where he speculates on a number of players that could be available. https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/10/13/nfl-week-6-news-notes-trade-rumors-broncos-panthers-vikings-bengals One name that stuck out to me was Jeremy Chinn as a hybrid safety/linebacker to help fill Milano's spot and be insurance for Taron Johnson. Sounds like he fell out of favor with the new Defense and likely wouldn't be costly, I recall there were rumors Beane/McD liked Chinn in his draft and obviously there's the Carolina Panther to Buffalo pipeline. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Atlanta would be a good candidate for an AJ Epenesa for a 1st round pick deal if they feel they are ready to win that division. Not saying that would be smart on their part.........but I do think if a team did that it would be someone like them. Could expand that and include Patterson for cheap, I suppose. Nobody is giving up a first round pick for Epenesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said: Nobody is giving up a first round pick for Epenesa Especially considering that Epenesa is a free agent at the end of the season. If he maybe had one or two more years left on his rookie contract (which at that point why would the Bills a team starved for cheap talent trade him) a team might pony up a 2nd or 3rd but not only is he not the type of talent that generates a first-round pick (truly dynamic talent, AJ is playing good but let's not call him a top NFL DE either) but his contract is also not the most appealing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 7 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: "Trade for Jeudy!!!!" "Give up the farm for Surtain!!!!" More realistic in season Beane move: The Bills last year made the moves of acquiring an ace returner and third-down back in Hines and adding a depth safety in Marlowe. I suspect that the Bills will make similar small to lower-mid-level additions this season. For one the Bills are capped strapped and two I doubt they want to give up much draft capital. I think defensively a depth LB, depth corner like Levi Wallace or a startable 1T DT will be made. Maybe 1-2 of those smaller additions. As far as offensively barring major injuries I think we are looking at smaller role-player additions like a Patterson or a Mecole Hardman both would be cheap and add some pop to the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Jordan Hicks, if available is who I want. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, GoBills! said: Jordan Hicks, if available is who I want. Make your pitch… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Bills last year made the moves of acquiring an ace returner and third-down back in Hines and adding a depth safety in Marlowe. I suspect that the Bills will make similar small to lower-mid-level additions this season. For one the Bills are capped strapped and two I doubt they want to give up much draft capital. I think defensively a depth LB, depth corner like Levi Wallace or a startable 1T DT will be made. Maybe 1-2 of those smaller additions. As far as offensively barring major injuries I think we are looking at smaller role-player additions like a Patterson or a Mecole Hardman both would be cheap and add some pop to the offense. Can’t give up too much draft capital. The next Boogie Basham and Kaiir Elam are waiting around the corner! 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, BBFL said: Make your pitch… Minnesota with Jefferson out is a fire sale candidate. Hicks is playing solidly (good PFF rating, decent stats and fans seem to think he is having a solid year) and could be had for cheap. I am not sure how his contract is for future years, however. If the cap his is easy to get out of in 2024, I think a 5th rounder could get it done if the hit this year and next year is manageable. Although I would think the Bills are looking to the next 3 games to see if Dodson/Williams can step up before making a move at LB. 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Can’t give up too much draft capital. The next Boogie Basham and Kaiir Elam are waiting around the corner! The next Torrence, Bernard, Benford, Groot or so many other good talents the Bills have found in drafts in recent seasons could also help the team short and long term. Just silly to say mortgage the farm because like any team the Bills have some busts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: Nobody is giving up a first round pick for Epenesa Yes, as discussed we know that there are people on TSW who thought Epenesa was worthless coming into this season and wanted to release him rather than trade Boogie Basham. The reality is that Epenesa had 6.5 sacks on just 38% of the defensive snaps last season. He has a PFF grade of 85 and has 3 sacks and has made a bunch of big plays this season. All it takes is one team...........just like with Bradley Chubb(also a pending free agent) last season........and Epenesa is playing A LOT better than Chubb was. Edited October 14, 2023 by BADOLBILZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Minnesota with Jefferson out is a fire sale candidate. Hicks is playing solidly (good PFF rating, decent stats and fans seem to think he is having a solid year) and could be had for cheap. I am not sure how his contract is for future years, however. If the cap his is easy to get out of in 2024, I think a 5th rounder could get it done if the hit this year and next year is manageable. Although I would think the Bills are looking to the next 3 games to see if Dodson/Williams can step up before making a move at LB. The next Torrence, Bernard, Benford, Groot or so many other good talents the Bills have found in drafts in recent seasons could also help the team short and long term. Just silly to say mortgage the farm because like any team the Bills have some busts. We have lots of picks. You get another 7 every year. You were probably one of the “win now and win in the future” guys. You need to realize we haven’t done either lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Minnesota with Jefferson out is a fire sale candidate. Hicks is playing solidly (good PFF rating, decent stats and fans seem to think he is having a solid year) and could be had for cheap. I am not sure how his contract is for future years, however. If the cap his is easy to get out of in 2024, I think a 5th rounder could get it done if the hit this year and next year is manageable. Although I would think the Bills are looking to the next 3 games to see if Dodson/Williams can step up before making a move at LB. The next Torrence, Bernard, Benford, Groot or so many other good talents the Bills have found in drafts in recent seasons could also help the team short and long term. Just silly to say mortgage the farm because like any team the Bills have some busts. lol was a Blue Jays joke. Sorry. Agree with everything regarding the player in seriousness. Absolutely right though, every team has busts. Just need more successes that are retained to maintain a winning program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Jeremy Chinn is listed as a safety/linebacker. How well could he handle being a full time linebacker? He was listed as 6'3" 221 lbs coming out of college. That's not far from Milano's weight. He would be one of the fastest linebackers in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 18 hours ago, FireChans said: We have lots of picks. You get another 7 every year. You were probably one of the “win now and win in the future” guys. You need to realize we haven’t done either lol The opposite of being too conservative is not to be stupid. If a good player that makes sense and fits the cap comes at the right cost (even if it is two firsts) then you take it. But I am also not a fan of a team making panic moves overpaying for players that don’t make enough of an impact. Balance is key to almost anything in life. And you should never mortgage the future for a bad opportunity to win now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said: Jeremy Chinn is listed as a safety/linebacker. How well could he handle being a full time linebacker? He was listed as 6'3" 221 lbs coming out of college. That's not far from Milano's weight. He would be one of the fastest linebackers in the league. Apparently there’s whispers Philly have enquired about him. The pairing of Blankenship/Edmunds isn’t enamoring there… An upgrade would be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Just here for names I’ve never heard of Edited October 14, 2023 by Dr.Sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 12:03 PM, wppete said: How about a LB to replace Milano? Who’s out there on garbage teams? Im hoping that Williams can be that guy, it would be awesome if he can be a play maker maybe not as good as Millano was especially being his rookie year but if he can show that type of potential & use this year to get better as the season moves on then having him & Millano would definitely be a plus . I've read that he has been all over the field reading the oppositions D pretty good for being thrown into the fire, with a full week of prep maybe he can show that he was worth the pick & the Bills can get another diamond out of the late round picks the Beane has been known to do ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 12:41 PM, BigAl2526 said: Jeremy Chinn is listed as a safety/linebacker. How well could he handle being a full time linebacker? He was listed as 6'3" 221 lbs coming out of college. That's not far from Milano's weight. He would be one of the fastest linebackers in the league. He can at least play Taron Johnson role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Hardman goes back to KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Josh goes to Hollywood..... Brown that is 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 1:26 PM, Billl said: Surtain was a top 10 pick who has lived up to the hype and had 3 seasons of control remaining. It would take a minimum of 2 first round picks to get him, especially from a team expected to draft 25+. With a QB and receiver rich draft, I want our 1st rounder next year. With all the QB hungry teams, a great receiver is likely to be available to us. We need 1a receiver to complement and eventually replace Diggs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 12:43 PM, ngbills said: WR Van Jefferson - Traded to ATL WR Mecole Hardman - Traded to KC DE Frank Clark - To be released WR Jerry Jeudy S/LB Jeremy Chinn WR Terrace Marshall CB Donte Jackson WR Hunter Renfrow DE Carl Lawson RB Dalvin Cook WR Courtland Sutton WR Kendrick Bourne LB Myjai Sanders S Harrison Smith DE Danielle Hunter WR KJ Osborn S Kareem Jackson WR DeAndre Hopkins LB Josh Uche G Michael Onwenu LB Zaven Collins LB Josey Jewell CB Kristian Fulton CB David Long S Ashtyn Davis OL Saahdiq Charles CB Desmond King What about Dhop? We haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet. Think we should kick the tires? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Derek Henry. Do it Beane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: What about Dhop? We haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet. Think we should kick the tires? I would. The player would help - all depends what we could do with the contract. Small cap hit this year but big next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: What about Dhop? We haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet. Think we should kick the tires? Not before we go after Zach Ertz with all the TE injuries we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 5:31 PM, FireChans said: Can’t give up too much draft capital. The next Boogie Basham and Kaiir Elam are waiting around the corner! So are the next Ocyrus, Torrance Terrel, Bernard Etc. etc. etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Some rumblings Derrick Henry may be traded to a contender. I’d offer a 2 in 2024 and a 4 that could become a 3 in 2025 I suspect he may be worth a 1st to someone Edited October 19, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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