Punching Bag Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, MJS said: Hmm, I thought he was pretty good. Overrated, sure, but I still thought he'd be a good corner for them. But he turned out to be a disaster. I'm not sure why he played so much better in NE. Maybe he needed the New England cheating and spying machine to succeed? Unfortunately the chief of spying and cheating Ernie Adams "retired*" in 2021 (coincidence P*ts record got worse?). * he was pulled out of retirement in 2022 for a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: I wonder if the Cheaters knew about this before trading for him: https://apnews.com/article/chargers-jc-jackson-arrest-warrant-1983f293a21931fb2acc582b6ec7190b How could they not? Hell I knew about.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 The pats are actually still trying to compete this season? I’d just play for draft position at this point 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: The patriots are going to be in the mix for a top 5 pick at this rate. The giants patriots game on november 26th could be a big game in determining who gets closer to the number 1 pick for Williams. I personally can't see a Belichick coached team vying for a top 5 pick in the draft - but who knows. Their schedule eases up a bit. I'd guess they end up with more like 5-6 wins. Which is perfect. Keep that team in the kind of purgatory we had for years, where we never had a high enough pick for a great QB or difference-maker. With Miami & Buffalo both looking solid for quite a few years, and the Jets possibly taking a step with either Wilson continuing to play well, or Rodgers coming back - our friends in New England might be in the cellar of the East for a long, long time. It's heartwarming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ExWNYer said: Belicheat probably thinks he need another RB more than a QB or WR... nah - he’s looking for the next Slater. BB loves him some STers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: The Bears have both their own pick and the Panthers #1 pick. I think that they have Caleb Williams in the bag. Bears really played this so unbelievably well, that this outcome was accidentally awesome. refuse to believe they played it this well. Dodged who so far looks like a bust in Young Acquired DJ Moore, their lone bright spot on offense Tons of picks, and basically hedged their bet on landing Caleb As a resident and casual fan of Carolina, im sickened. Thank God 99.5% of my eggs are in the Buffalo Basket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Oh good Diggs gets to visit his favorite vacation island twice this year instead of once. 1 hour ago, Doc said: I wonder if the Cheaters knew about this before trading for him: https://apnews.com/article/chargers-jc-jackson-arrest-warrant-1983f293a21931fb2acc582b6ec7190b You'd think he'd have a warrant in LA for robbing the Chargers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said: Has an arm, but he processes too slowly and his accuracy is suspect at best. It’s hard to really critique him too much as he’s on an absolute trash team. But, I don’t see a top 20 qb when I watch him. Papa Bill won’t be in NE for much longer. If they were smart theyd approach him "Good time to retire, or we're going in a diff direction". He's old, and theres no way Id want him handling my good drafting position, and why let him keep the reigns any longer, when new guys come in and want their own players. That said, heres hoping for 5 more years of Hoodie 🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, NewEra said: The Pats grab JCJ before Beane could swing a deal. Another example of Belichick's 5-D chess while the Bills are playing checkers. /s if it's not obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: They have huge problems. He was hardly the only reason. They play a lot of zone and he's only really suited for man-to-man. He was a square peg in a round hole. Sounds like someone we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: If they were smart theyd approach him "Good time to retire, or we're going in a diff direction". He's old, and theres no way Id want him handling my good drafting position, and why let him keep the reigns any longer, when new guys come in and want their own players. That said, heres hoping for 5 more years of Hoodie 🍻 It's better for everyone in the AFC East if the Pats hang on to Bill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: Now, how do they replace Judon? Chandler Jones maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Belicheat probably thinks he need another RB more than a QB or WR... Honestly, the Pats probably should run the ball and keep it out of their trash QBs hands. They might actually have some success if they try to win ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: The patriots are going to be in the mix for a top 5 pick at this rate. The giants patriots game on november 26th could be a big game in determining who gets closer to the number 1 pick for Williams. Giants, Patriots, Jets, Bears, Vikings, Broncos and Cardinals hell kind of the Bengals with their record, there are so many teams at the bottom right now I mean somebody has to start winning at some point right? 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It's better for everyone in the AFC East if the Pats hang on to Bill. He might be my favorite GM in the AFC East of our opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Honestly, the Pats probably should run the ball and keep it out of their trash QBs hands. They might actually have some success if they try to win ugly. Yeah, my comment was more a tongue-in-cheek reference to his antiquated approach of thinking that you can still win with defense and a 'three yards and a cloud of dust' offense in today's NFL. I hope he never changes his approach and is there another 10 years. Edited October 4, 2023 by ExWNYer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: I wonder if the Cheaters knew about this before trading for him: https://apnews.com/article/chargers-jc-jackson-arrest-warrant-1983f293a21931fb2acc582b6ec7190b It was news last week, so yeah, I’d say they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: Now, how do they replace Judon? Short answer, you don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) I would of said I wonder if the Bills had interest due to Tre going down. But 82M is a bit much Edited October 4, 2023 by Starr Almighty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I would of said I wonder if the Bills had interest due to Tre going down. But 82M is a bit much Is he really better than what we have now anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Pats get a comp pick for letting him walk, he sucks out loud, pats bring him back. Jamie Collins, I think kyle van noy, anyone else I can't think of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 He’s a solid CB. Just doesn’t fit LA’s scheme. I def don’t think he’s worth the money he got though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 The Chargers final tally on JC Jack$on: $38.5 million for 21 games on the roster. Paying him $10.5 million of $12 million 2023 salary, while he plays for Patriots. Cap charge of $11.5 million in 2023. Cap charge of $19 million in 2024. Traded along with 2025 7th for a 2025 6th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Yum yum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 He’s terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 He is wildly overrated. An average DB at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 He ranks as one of the worst corners in the NFL. The rookie must be hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Best move for both teams. Chargers get out of a massive contract for a guy who’s never been healthy enough to be productive for that contract and for the Patsies, they get a guy familiar with Belly’s requirements; guy turned him from Undrafted into All-Pro. 2 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: He ranks as one of the worst corners in the NFL. The rookie must be hurt. Yeah Gonzales (great draft pick by them; how he fell down that far is a shocker as pre-combine he was the consensus #1) is done for the year. Season ending injury, torn labrum I believe is the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: He ranks as one of the worst corners in the NFL. The rookie must be hurt. Think I heard earlier today a torn labrum, but don't have a source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: He ranks as one of the worst corners in the NFL. The rookie must be hurt. torn labrum, not coming back this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Another one of JA’s and Diggs biatches … Edited October 5, 2023 by Aussie Joe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: The Chargers final tally on JC Jack$on: $38.5 million for 21 games on the roster. Paying him $10.5 million of $12 million 2023 salary, while he plays for Patriots. Cap charge of $11.5 million in 2023. Cap charge of $19 million in 2024. Traded along with 2025 7th for a 2025 6th. I thnk that leaves 1.5M for the Patriots to pay.....that is worth it for the success he had there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 It is easy to overestimate value of players on well performing teams - how much a player's performance is due to coaching & staff, system, faculties', fellow players and area? There are many, many players who go to other teams to be expensive cog to improve machine but end up being backups until team can afford to release or trade them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: I thnk that leaves 1.5M for the Patriots to pay.....that is worth it for the success he had there. Yeah that's not a lot. The question is whether he can return to the form he showed in Cheaterland that landed him that big contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah that's not a lot. The question is whether he can return to the form he showed in Cheaterland that landed him that big contract? Malcolm Butler 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah that's not a lot. The question is whether he can return to the form he showed in Cheaterland that landed him that big contract? I will not be holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Thats a shame for New England and Gonzalez. He looked pretty good in his first few games. At least it isnt his wheels and he should be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Apparently traded because he refused to go on the field when the other player was hurt and forced the dude to play on a gimpy ankle 72 out of 73 snaps... What a joke. "Wasn't warm enough" was his excuse for not going in among a host of others. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-former-chargers-cb-j-001544001.html On 10/5/2023 at 9:17 AM, Doc said: Yeah that's not a lot. The question is whether he can return to the form he showed in Cheaterland that landed him that big contract? Does it matter? Their offense has been outscored by the opposing defense the last 2 games 28-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Apparently traded because he refused to go on the field when the other player was hurt and forced the dude to play on a gimpy ankle 72 out of 73 snaps... What a joke. "Wasn't warm enough" was his excuse for not going in among a host of others. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-former-chargers-cb-j-001544001.html Does it matter? Their offense has been outscored by the opposing defense the last 2 games 28-3. Not warm enough? He is moving from team on the West Coast playing a team in a dome to a New England team which is not known for its balm weather who play the Bills and Jets with open air stadiums also not known for balmy weather. More like team realized he was yet another for Cheat who cannot perform without the film showing how to avoid Zebra calls so better something rather than malcontent nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Not warm enough? He is moving from team on the West Coast playing a team in a dome to a New England team which is not known for its balm weather who play the Bills and Jets with open air stadiums also not known for balmy weather. More like team realized he was yet another for Cheat who cannot perform without the film showing how to avoid Zebra calls so better something rather than malcontent nothing. Maybe he will refuse to go in against the Bills because he doesn't want Diggs to smoke him all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 10:07 AM, SCBills said: Just reported that Gonzalez is done for the year. Man, the attrition at CB league-wide is real… do these guys not stretch before the games? It's a bizarre year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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