78thealltimegreat Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 It’s starting in Chicago and this cannot end well… Through 27 career starts ... Fields: 59.9 Cmp% 4,469 Pass yards 1,591 Rush yards 36 Pass & Rush TD 31 Turnovers 79.7 Pass Rtg Trubisky: 63.2 Cmp % 5,644 Pass yards 680 Rush yads 36 Pass & Rush TD 26 Turnovers 86.3 Pass Rtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Cool. We may be in the market for a backup QB next year. 3 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Well, for the most part Chicago is a place where careers go to die, 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Never thought much of Fields as a QB. Hoping the Bears finish at the bottom and can draft one of the studs coming out this year. Would like to see all of the top QBs in this year's draft end up in the NFC. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I’d take Mitch Trubisky over Justin Fields without hesitation… put Fields at Slot WR. Fields is a disaster of a QB. 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Fields is pretty decent. He can definitely be a Jalen Hurts type in the right offense. Chicago wouldn't know what to do with a QB if they had one (which they never did in the entire history, wild) 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He’s a bust. They might want to get in on the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Doc said: He’s a bust. They might want to get in on the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. Haslam: "I'll trade you a first round and second round pick for Fields, and pay him $50,000,000 a year!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Fields is a bottom 5 qb in my assessment- bad throwing mechanics is just the start. Don’t understand the hype on this guy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Well, on the good side of they're distracted by how bad the coach and QB are, it will take them longer to realize they vastly overpaid a certain MLB.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Haslam: "I'll trade you a first round and second round pick for Fields, and pay him $50,000,000 a year!" Haslam’s dumb but he’s not that dumb. At least Watson looked good for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I'm guessing Poles drafrs another qb next year. Fields was already there when he arrived 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Haslam’s dumb but he’s not that dumb. At least Watson looked good for a few years. Haslam drafted Manziel in the first round. He is that dumb. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Fields could win 11 games with the Bills roster... Am I saying that right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Haslam drafted Manziel in the first round. He is that dumb. Glad he's that dumb or they would have drafted Allen over Mayfield. Wonder who'd they had gone with if Allen was gone. Now that's an ugly thought....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/@TheQBSchool I've watched JT O'Sullivan do his QB film room on both Bears games so far. If you are bored and like that kind of stuff, start with their week 1 game and then watch this past week. Fields, his weapons, and the coordinator are all playing high school-tier ball and it's very entertaining to watch JT rip into them 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I was waiting for tongue wagging to end. Great athlete. Whatever QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 It seems that Chicago as a city is not a good place for qbs. Maybe it's what's in the water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Haslam drafted Manziel in the first round. He is that dumb. To be fair though I think if he had passed on Manziel it's a good chance that there was some other teams after them with a late round pic that would have got him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 51 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: To be fair though I think if he had passed on Manziel it's a good chance that there was some other teams after them with a late round pic that would have got him The rumor at the time was that it took the collective effort of the entire Cowboys' organization to talk Jerry Jones out of taking him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: It’s starting in Chicago and this cannot end well… Through 27 career starts ... Fields: 59.9 Cmp% 4,469 Pass yards 1,591 Rush yards 36 Pass & Rush TD 31 Turnovers 79.7 Pass Rtg Trubisky: 63.2 Cmp % 5,644 Pass yards 680 Rush yads 36 Pass & Rush TD 26 Turnovers 86.3 Pass Rtg With those stats they may want to bring Mitch back ... I bet Edmunds is ecstatic !! Edited September 20, 2023 by T master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, loyal2dagame said: It seems that Chicago as a city is not a good place for qbs. Maybe it's what's in the water? It’s the wind. Need some confusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Well, for the most part Chicago is a place where careers go to die, Fun fact: Justin Jefferson has more career receiving yards (5134) than any Chicago Bear had for their career - Johnny Morris is the leader with 5059 (1958-1967). 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said: The rumor at the time was that it took the collective effort of the entire Cowboys' organization to talk Jerry Jones out of taking him. Yeah, I mean at the time he was one of the best QB coming out of college. Think it was his personality and the way he acted with how he handled himself in general that was the issue for most other teams. Depending on the state of the franchise regarding certain teams can make them feel those type of issues are worth the risk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 hours ago, WhoTom said: Cool. We may be in the market for a backup QB next year. Fields could resurrect his career here if he really wanted to put the work in and learn from Josh Allen possibly getting a shot to start somewhere else. Just like Trubisky, but he squandered it in Pittsburgh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 What a disaster the 2021 QB class has been after Trevor Lawrence went off the board at #1. The 1st round has 3 potential busts including Trey Lance who was jettisoned for a 4th & for SF he's officially a bust already. Mac Jones is JAG. The 3rd rounders & beyond are backups or practice squad players. No. 1: Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars No. 2: Zach Wilson, New York Jets No. 3: Trey Lance, San Francisco 49ers No. 11: Justin Fields, Chicago Bears No. 15: Mac Jones, New England Patriots No. 64: Kyle Trask, Tampa Bay Buccaneers No. 66: Kellen Mond, Minnesota Vikings No. 67: Davis Mills, Houston Texans No 133 Ian Book New Orleans No 218 Sam Ehlinger Indianapolis 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Fields could win 11 games with the Bills roster... Am I saying that right? The Bills roster could win 11 games with Fields. Diggs would quit. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: What a disaster the 2021 QB class has been after Trevor Lawrence went off the board at #1. The 1st round has 3 potential busts including Trey Lance who was jettisoned for a 4th & for SF he's officially a bust already. Mac Jones is JAG. The 3rd rounders & beyond are backups or practice squad players. No. 1: Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars No. 2: Zach Wilson, New York Jets No. 3: Trey Lance, San Francisco 49ers No. 11: Justin Fields, Chicago Bears No. 15: Mac Jones, New England Patriots No. 64: Kyle Trask, Tampa Bay Buccaneers No. 66: Kellen Mond, Minnesota Vikings No. 67: Davis Mills, Houston Texans No 133 Ian Book New Orleans No 218 Sam Ehlinger Indianapolis Man that is a rough draft I’ll never forget Todd Mcshay going on and on about Zach Wilson’s rare arm talent and two years later Todd is unemployed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Fields is pretty decent. He can definitely be a Jalen Hurts type in the right offense. Chicago wouldn't know what to do with a QB if they had one (which they never did in the entire history, wild) Yeah, it's tough to get a read on any QB on a team that messed up. I thought Fields was turning the corner last year. I guess it was the corner right out of town. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Albert Breer in SI today: ‘There’s no sugarcoating it—Justin Fields hasn’t looked good for two weeks. So I figured the time was right to try and figure out what the tape is telling teams that are studying him. And the answers I got were pretty interesting. “It’s a combination of a lot of things,” says one AFC exec. “Protection isn’t great, and when he does start getting hit, he starts to drop eyes. The biggest issue is he’s not seeing the field—he has guys open at times and doesn’t pull the trigger. On top of that, he’s had some misses. They’re actually probably doing too much, in terms of pass options. . . . It’s a good scheme. [Offensive coordinator] Luke [Getsy] was probably hoping he took the next steps in the pass game. There’s no rhythm in the offense right now because the quarterback can’t see it.” Along those lines, another exec says he saw similarities over the past two weeks to where Fields was in his development during his rookie year under the previous staff. “It’s trying to make him a pocket passer and not doing enough to get him out on the edges where he has easier throws, because he can hurt you with his running ability,” says the NFC exec. “Everyone’s gonna play him the same—keep him in the pocket and make him feel like the rush is closing. And then his eyes will come down and he can’t find open guys. And the offensive line is not good, so he will keep feeling pressure.” So what’s the answer for Getsy and coach Matt Eberflus? First and foremost, it seems as if the big thing is what it’s always been for Fields—the Bears have to get him playing faster. And going back to college, he always played faster when the running game was working, and he knows where he’s going with the ball. Of course, creating those circumstances for a quarterback is easier said than done.‘ https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/09/19/week-2-nfl-notes-patrick-mahomes-contract-justin-fields-development-brian-burns-trade-options 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Fields is pretty decent. He can definitely be a Jalen Hurts type in the right offense. Chicago wouldn't know what to do with a QB if they had one (which they never did in the entire history, wild) You’re kidding right? Just watch this and tell me what you would do if Josh Allen made this read 39 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: What a disaster the 2021 QB class has been after Trevor Lawrence went off the board at #1. The 1st round has 3 potential busts including Trey Lance who was jettisoned for a 4th & for SF he's officially a bust already. Mac Jones is JAG. The 3rd rounders & beyond are backups or practice squad players. No. 1: Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars No. 2: Zach Wilson, New York Jets No. 3: Trey Lance, San Francisco 49ers No. 11: Justin Fields, Chicago Bears No. 15: Mac Jones, New England Patriots No. 64: Kyle Trask, Tampa Bay Buccaneers No. 66: Kellen Mond, Minnesota Vikings No. 67: Davis Mills, Houston Texans No 133 Ian Book New Orleans No 218 Sam Ehlinger Indianapolis Lawrence is a good one. Mac could be a low end starter for a few years, otherwise woof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: You’re kidding right? Just watch this and tell me what you would do if Josh Allen made this read You must have never watched an all 22 film on Josh. He does this every game. Watch the Jets game. You will kick yourself. Open receivers everywhere 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: What a disaster the 2021 QB class has been after Trevor Lawrence went off the board at #1. The 1st round has 3 potential busts including Trey Lance who was jettisoned for a 4th & for SF he's officially a bust already. Mac Jones is JAG. The 3rd rounders & beyond are backups or practice squad players. No. 1: Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars No. 2: Zach Wilson, New York Jets No. 3: Trey Lance, San Francisco 49ers No. 11: Justin Fields, Chicago Bears No. 15: Mac Jones, New England Patriots No. 64: Kyle Trask, Tampa Bay Buccaneers No. 66: Kellen Mond, Minnesota Vikings No. 67: Davis Mills, Houston Texans No 133 Ian Book New Orleans No 218 Sam Ehlinger Indianapolis A few serviceable backups in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: You must have never watched an all 22 film on Josh. He does this every game. Watch the Jets game. You will kick yourself. Open receivers everywhere Ok. Does that make fields any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Bottom line as always: Just say NO to Ohio State QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: Ok. Does that make fields any better? Yes because every QB does that from time to time, especially ones that people on here thinks walks on water. I see no difference between Hurts and Fields except Fields has no offense and Hurts was plug and play on an already great team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Fields is pretty decent. He can definitely be a Jalen Hurts type in the right offense. Chicago wouldn't know what to do with a QB if they had one (which they never did in the entire history, wild) He’s on his second coaching regime. Nagy was a whisperer in KC. I’m thinking he’s unable to read D’s and progress in his options. He is just not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Mitch is like the third best bears QB in their history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: You must have never watched an all 22 film on Josh. He does this every game. Watch the Jets game. You will kick yourself. Open receivers everywhere Every QB will appear to miss open receivers to someone unfamiliar with the play’s concept, the coverage, and how the QB is expected to go through the progression. The issue with the play that was posted by Hindsight is that Fields missed at least 3 open receivers and appeared to be looking in the direction of at least two of them. Number 2 on the left has a “free access” or “gift” route and is open at the snap based on the defense’s alignment. Every quarterback takes that throw immediately unless they don’t understand what they’re supposed to be looking for when they break the huddle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Only Da Bears would consider Jay Cutler maybe the greatest quarterback in their history … with all due respect to Jim McMahonand Bobby Douglass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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