AuntieEm Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Prospector said: Inigo Montoya: "Vizzini, I do not think that response is as clever as you think it is" Mabe not but I certainly was wise enough not to disparage Bernard as our starting MLB. I certainly wasn't expecting such a solid start to his handling that position especially with no real preseasoning. He's just ready to serve right out of the box. It's gonna be fun as we watch Milano and Bernard duke it out to see who can impact the games more each week. Edited September 24, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Man was this board wrong about Bernard ! Meh.......sure there were a few people who thought they'd seen all they needed to see of Bernard even though he'd hardly played...... But the larger takeaway is how wrong SO MANY people were in excusing Tremaine Edmunds for never making plays. This defense is designed to create opportunities for the MLB to make plays. It was always correct to be critical of Edmunds for the lack of instinctiveness and the subsequent, near-complete lack of game changing plays for 5 years. Edited September 24, 2023 by BADOLBILZ 3 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: I laughed when the excuses for Edmunds not making any plays was that “he had too much on his plate/it’s not his job/he doesn’t play the same position as Milano, doesn’t have the same freedom to roam.” No, he just wasn’t a playmaker. Bernard undoubtedly has a nose for the football and is making the plays our last LB could not. and doesnt it feel like, in some ways, he decided not to be a playmaker? I mean, that's part of the frustration. We keep thinking of all the things Tremaine could be doing. If only . . . . "dude. . . . You were standing RIGHT THERE! . . . wtf Tremaine?" It seemed like he had a limit to how much injury risk he was going to take. Like he had some higher responsibility (to family?) to not risk a second contract. Edited September 24, 2023 by maddenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 So funny - I was looking at the thread from when Bernard and Benford were named starters. Everyone was ready to flush Bernard -- wasted pick, he's being forced in because McBeane picked him in the 3rd. What BS. He is a young Milano - very similar games. Speed and instinct. He will grow in bulk like Matt did. Two-headed monster. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, maddenboy said: and doesnt it feel like, in some ways, he decided not to be a playmaker? I mean, that's part of the frustration. We keep thinking of all the things Tremaine could be doing. If only . . . . "dude. . . . You were standing RIGHT THERE! . . . wtf Tremaine?" It seemed like he had a limit to how much injury risk he was going to take. Like he had some higher responsibility (to family?) to not risk a second contract. No. He had a complete lack of anticipation. He was not computing fast enough. It was never a question of want-to, I would never question his heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) fair William of Occam. It takes some of us (ie: me) longer to learn. Trying too hard to give Edmunds the benefit of the doubt. Edited September 24, 2023 by maddenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Dear Chicago, Thank you for pricing us out of the Edmunds market! We now have a significantly better beast of a MLB secured with 4 year cheap cost controlled rookie contract. Sincerely, Brandon Beane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, TheWeatherMan said: Dear Chicago, Thank you for pricing us out of the Edmunds market! We now have a significantly better beast of a MLB secured with 4 year cheap cost controlled rookie contract. Sincerely, Brandon Beane and for likely a comp pick in the same round we got his replacement. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big earl Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Edmunds who ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Weren't all those in the 1st quarter? Or was it spread over the first half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Not to make this an Edmunds thread but watching him against the Chiefs and I saw him week 1 he really is just a big body who doesn’t know what he’s doing out there. Bernard has made more game changing plays in 3 weeks than he did in 5 years and that’s not an over exaggeration 4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Edmunds was supposed to be the one doing Urlacher things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Wait. I’m confused. I was told by many perverse that Bernard was a terrible player! 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: Weren't all those in the 1st quarter? Or was it spread over the first half? He made some more plays across the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Blank Stare said: I’ll admit, while I wasn’t a TB hater, I wasn’t expecting this. His injury in the preseason really contributed to my uneasiness about him. That said, he started one game last year as a rookie and a lot of people were done with him. Ridiculous to think he couldn’t improve after one rough outing. It’s a consistent theme on TBD that players are judged to be boom/busts immediately with no opportunity or expectation that they can learn and improve. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On the all 22 after week one, they showed how the Aaron Rodgers injury play was designed to be an easy completion exploiting the weak link Bernard, but Rodgers was shocked when Bernard diagnosed and shifted seamlessly into coverage. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Edmunds is getting embarrassed against the Chiefs. Mahomes owned Edmunds which is part of the reason we let him go because McBeane knew it too. He was too easily manipulated by Mahomes even in games we won. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Edmunds is getting embarrassed against the Chiefs. Annual scheduled post 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Edmunds is getting embarrassed against the Chiefs. Reliably comes flying in 2 seconds after the whistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Not to make this an Edmunds thread but watching him against the Chiefs and I saw him week 1 he really is just a big body who doesn’t know what he’s doing out there. Bernard has made more game changing plays in 3 weeks than he did in 5 years and that’s not an over exaggeration I watching him too, and there’s no big play out of him. And there should be at least a few, if he was that guy .. because KC is giving him plenty of opportunities lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFLO Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, Steptide said: After 5 seasons with the bills, we still question beane and McD, and time after time, they're often right They were wrong to trade up for Tremaine and start him for 5 years. I'll give them a little credit for not extending him on a monster contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, maddenboy said: and doesnt it feel like, in some ways, he decided not to be a playmaker? I mean, that's part of the frustration. We keep thinking of all the things Tremaine could be doing. If only . . . . "dude. . . . You were standing RIGHT THERE! . . . wtf Tremaine?" It seemed like he had a limit to how much injury risk he was going to take. Like he had some higher responsibility (to family?) to not risk a second contract. Well he got his 17 million even if he's only worth 1/3 of that. Thank God we made the decision to move on. Bernard so far is special and may just "out-splash" Milano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Beane can’t draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: It’s a consistent theme on TBD that players are judged to be boom/busts immediately with no opportunity or expectation that they can learn and improve. To be fair, Bernard was a healthy scratch in the divisional game last year. The coaches gave him less and less snaps after his starting opportunity against the Jets until he wasn't even on the gameday roster. Then in training camp he had lost the job to Dodson and then suffered a hamstring injury that kept him out of the preseason. Nobody in their right mind thought he was going to take over the job and suddenly start lighting it up. Mostly I was just hoping to get replacement level play from that position. I would bet if you asked McDermott in confidence even he'd admit to bring surprised by Bernard's play. Out of nowhere he is playing like a superstar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 I was very wrong about this guy Very happy to be so wrong 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 If he and Cook continue roughly on this trajectory, the McBeane drafts don't look as bad as the many have assumed. Small sample size for Bernard but I'm hopeful he can be a top-15 MLB which, for the money, is all we need him to be. If he's simply average and not good or a liability, that's acceptable too but maybe he's a little more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 This kid has made more plays in three games than Edmunds would make in three years....I was skeptical of Bernard starting for this D, but he has far exceeded my expectations.....you go TB43!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Well he got his 17 million even if he's only worth 1/3 of that. Thank God we made the decision to move on. Bernard so far is special and may just "out-splash" Milano. The way Bienemy talked about Milano I wouldn't be surprised if they specifically avoided Milano today, Berard must have been a nasty surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 I will admit, I thought TB was a total bust. Said it loud and proud. And I was wrong and know nothing about football or scouting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 How's Nakobe Dean looking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Well he got his 17 million even if he's only worth 1/3 of that. Thank God we made the decision to move on. Bernard so far is special and may just "out-splash" Milano. I think they compliment each other well and they seem to feast off each other in a friendly competitive way so I expect we are gonna see some amazing play from their tag teaming opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 After his game today, mods may need to pin to this thread to the top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 It's been real quiet from people who declared him a bust. Kinda wish I had the time and patience to go through my notifications and find the guy who was telling me he's just a bad football player and couldn't possibly develop. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 There isn’t much I don’t love about his game. keeps this up he will be a top 5 Mike. me personally think he is still a bit light but no false steps, no wasted movements. Great vision and reaction. I defended Edmunds a lot but I must say the areas that Edmunds struggled for me reaction times and instincts Bernard has them in spades. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's been real quiet from people who declared him a bust. Kinda wish I had the time and patience to go through my notifications and find the guy who was telling me he's just a bad football player and couldn't possibly develop. Is it REALLY worth it? No. Move on, it's cool. The Bills dominated. NOTE: I was not one of those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) FilthyBeast admitting he might have got one wrong https://x.com/Filthybeast79/status/1705998737812930825?s=20 Edited September 27, 2023 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, akcash said: I will admit, I thought TB was a total bust. Said it loud and proud. And I was wrong and know nothing about football or scouting. most of us did. Glad Beanes making the calls and not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Helluva game TB. Might be DPOW. Couldn’t be happier with his play. Now….. next week when Miami screens us to death, can he hold up and stop them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: FilthyBeast admitting he might have got one wrong https://x.com/Filthybeast79/status/1705998737812930825?s=20 0 likes, 0 retweets, 0 comments Just tweeting away into the void 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 @PBF81 Can you not give this man his love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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