Elam a healthy scratch part deux (now part TRES) (now part QUATRO)

[FireChans]

 

Make sure we tank his value as much as possible before we shop him Beane!

Edited October 1, 2023 by FireChans

[JoPoy88]

Not ideal…

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

 

Make sure we tank his value as much as possible before we shop him Beane!

Beans has nothing to do with him being inactive. That’s all McDermott.

[Einstein]

Yeah, I think it’s obvious that Elam is a bust as far as this team is considered.

 

Maybe he can resurrect his career with a team that runs more man.

[SoonerBillsFan]

2nd healthy scratch in a row...time to trade him.

Edited September 17, 2023 by SoonerBillsFan

[Brand J]

1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

Beans has nothing to do with him being inactive. That’s all McDermott.

He and his scouting team selected him. It’s looking like Beane’s worst 1st round pick and he traded up no less. 

[Dr. Who]

Starting a thread for those unable to post in Italian Bills' positivity thread? How very decent of you.

[Sierra Foothills]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Make sure we tank his value as much as possible before we shop him Beane!

 

Same 4 players as last week.

 

[Process]

I hope Kincaid /Torrence are a sign that Beane learned his lesson from the boogie/aj/elam picks. Don't draft defense just for the hell of it. Let Sean get his fix another way. 

[HOUSE]

This is why I don't buy season tickets

We sit our #1 draft picks, than lose games

[Low Positive]

It's really a numbers game, more than anything else.

• Benford beat him in camp and played well last week
• Dane Jackson is the veteran 3rd CB
• Cam Lewis offers positional flexibility because he can play CB and safety in a pinch
• Elam doesn't play special teams

But it is at this point a really poor draft pick

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said:

He and his scouting team selected him. It’s looking like Beane’s worst 1st round pick and he traded up no less. 

 

The worst part in my opinion is that the Chiefs jumped in front of us to pick Trent McDuffie. Who looks like an absolute stud.

 

GunnerBill and I have debated whether the Bills would have taken McDuffie had the Chiefs not jumped us, but regardless, it’s a bad look.

 

So, either:

 

1) Beane wanted McDuffie but let the Chiefs outmaneuver him.

 

or

 

2) Beane had Elam in front of McDuffie on the draft board, which is probably even worse. 

 

 

[benderbender]

He needs to study Sauce's ability to have officials throw flags for OPI and ignore his Deshaun Watson hands

[wppete]

Wow. Fells like he could be a trade candidate this year. Disappointing. 

[Teddy KGB]

At least Beane looks cool in a suit. 

 

Gonna need Milano and JA to save his job, way too many misses piling up.   

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, benderbender said:

He needs to study Sauce's ability to have officials throw flags for OPI and ignore his Deshaun Watson hands

He should legally change his name to Tom Brady. Then the officials would like him.

Either that or Jack. If they were still making westerns, he could try that.

[Brand J]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The worst part in my opinion is that the Chiefs jumped in front of us to pick Trent McDuffie. Who looks like an absolute stud.

 

GunnerBill and I have debated whether the Bills would have taken McDuffie had the Chiefs not jumped us, but regardless, it’s a bad look.

 

So, either:

 

1) Beane wanted McDuffie but let the Chiefs outmaneuver him.

 

or

 

2) Beane had Elam in front of McDuffie on the draft board, which is probably even worse. 

 

 

Number 2 would definitely be worse! 😂

 

I agree with trading him even though CB depth is always needed. But I’d only do a player for player deal. 1st round picks aren’t supposed to be depth, maybe he can become another team’s Jerry Hughes equivalent, or we can luck into another.

[Jay_Fixit]

16 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

2nd healthy scratch in a row...time to trade him.

Who wants to trade for a player that is bad at playing football?

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Who wants to trade for a player that is bad at playing football?

Lots of former first rounders that may not have secured a full time starting job have some trade value. Now, if their team puts them in street clothes every week, that goes down.

 

If Elam was rotating in on defense, some team may think he’s a fit for their press scheme and give up a fourth. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Likely won't change until there's an injury ahead of him. They played Benford 100% of the snaps last week and seemed very happy with how he played. Jackson is next man up. 

 

Not ideal for a former 1st rounder, but it's good we have other dudes that stepped up. 

[Draconator]

Elam is a unitasker.  Can only play man

[drummernut74]

Medium Baller Beane 🤣🤣

[Royale with Cheese]

Put the playbook on the plane!

[TheFunPolice]

This is a bummer because I thought we would end up with basically 2 Tre Whites on defense, plus all the other guys as amazing depth.

 

 

 

 

[boyst]

24 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

2nd healthy scratch in a row...time to trade him.

How can we trade him when he has no value to anyone? If he's not on the field contributing no one knows what he can do. It's horseshit. 

2 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Elam is a unitasker.  Can only play man

Who cares? If he has talent and can play he needs to be put ont he field and worked around 

[Draconator]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

 

Who cares? If he has talent and can play he needs to be put ont he field and worked around 

You know better than anyone else that the Bills play primarily zone. The coaches obviously see something in his zone coverage that leads them to this decision.

[No_Matter_What]

Nothing to see here imo. Apparently nothing changed from last week and he is still CB4 on a depth chart.

 

Not ideal (to put it mildly) but as long as Benford plays good it's not a big deal.

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

How can we trade him when he has no value to anyone? If he's not on the field contributing no one knows what he can do. It's horseshit. 

Who cares? If he has talent and can play he needs to be put ont he field and worked around 

I think he's so messed up right now he can't even play man coverage well. I feel bad for the kid.

It was up to the coaching staff to incorporate his particular skills. They tried to turn him into something he's not.

[RoscoeParrish]

I wonder if there is something non-football related going on with Kair

[Joe Ferguson]

McD will make sure to draft more defense next year. Screw the o-line and wide receivers.

[Pete]

23 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

It's really a numbers game, more than anything else.

• Benford beat him in camp and played well last week
• Dane Jackson is the veteran 3rd CB
• Cam Lewis offers positional flexibility because he can play CB and safety in a pinch
• Elam doesn't play special teams

But it is at this point a really poor draft pick

I agree with everything.  It is a poor draft pick grading opportunity cost.  My eye test Elam looked great in playoffs.  Iron sharpens iron.  Marv said that you can never have too many CBs.  Elam might again be a very useful player- on the field or for in a favorable trade.   I am going to reserve my judgement on Elam

[Draconator]

Just now, Joe Ferguson said:

McD will make sure to draft more defense next year. Screw the o-line and wide receivers.

Dalton Kincade says hold my beer 

[PatsFanNH]

19 minutes ago, wppete said:

Wow. Fells like he could be a trade candidate this year. Disappointing. 

The Bills won’t get much back for him. Maybe a 5th or 6th round pick.. most teams wait for the Bills to cut him next year and then take a flier on him. 

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, Draconator said:

You know better than anyone else that the Bills play primarily zone. The coaches obviously see something in his zone coverage that leads them to this decision.

Ok, then why is he on the team? What value does he have? It's equal to everyone else inactive. Hamlin, etc. 

 

It's stupid.

[Draconator]

Just now, boyst said:

Ok, then why is he on the team? What value does he have? It's equal to everyone else inactive. Hamlin, etc. 

 

It's stupid.

We are not paid to coach the Bills. We only complain about them 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Draconator said:

We are not paid to coach the Bills. We only complain about them 

I wish we got paid to complain about the Bills. @newcam2012 would be a very wealthy man.

Edited September 17, 2023 by FrenchConnection

[whorlnut]

Beane should have cut his losses before the season started. It’s got to be humiliating for Elam as a first rounder. Give his the benefit of the doubt and trade him to a team that can use him in their scheme. Instead, we held on to him and now his value is plummeting each week as he’s inactive. Bad look all around. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

I think he was an expensive insurance policy. Not knowing what we were going to get from White and when he would be back. Benford has been a pleasant surprise. Plus letting Wallace go, it was a neccesary position to fill. Was really hoping he could pick up zone concepts better, just hasn't panned out...yet....🤔

[Augie]

36 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

2nd healthy scratch in a row...time to trade him.

 

That would certainly guarantee a CB injury and an immediate need to get him back. 

[finn]

35 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Yeah, I think it’s obvious that Elam is a bust as far as this team is considered.

 

Maybe he can resurrect his career with a team that runs more man.

I'm hoping they use him to jam Tyreek Hill when they play the Dolphins. Disrupting their timing be the only way to slow down that express train since Tua gets rid of the ball so quickly. Bonus is shopping him to teams that play mostly man defenses. He's a good player, just can't play zone well, evidently.