Low Positive Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: don’t forget Andy Reid. Mahomes is the best but he certainly is set up for success like not many others. Chiefs went 12-4 the year they drafted Mahomes and 10-7 the year that he sat. Mahomes is great, but he took over an already good team, a luxury that not many rookie QBs have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Hate to say it but I think the Chiefs win (and cover). The Lions were a nice story last year and do appear to be a legitimate playoff contender going into this season, but they haven’t been in this situation before. Going to KC for the NFL opener against the defending SB champs is a huge step up, and rarely do teams meet that challenge the first time they experience it. I don’t care that Kelce may not play and they don’t have Jones. Mahomes is still Mahomes and I don’t see a Detroit defense that will shut him down. I really, really hope I’m wrong. Would love to see KC saddled with an L this early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Gregg said: The one bad thing about tonight is we are going to have to listen to Collingsworth drool over Mahomes doing this and Mahomes doing that for 3 hours. That’s not going to be easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 With Jones and Kelce out, the Lions have a real chance to steal a win. But in critical moments in a close game I'm going to bet on the team that has experience in those moments versus the young team still finding its way. Chiefs 30 Lions 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I think the Lions could win. They played really well last year. If Kelce misses significant time, I think the KC offense regresses quite a bit. But he isn’t supposed to be out for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I hate Patrick Mahomes face, voice, and walk. Go Lions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I cannot bring myself to hate Mahomes, it's easier to hate Burrow, though I don't even really hate Burrow. Mahomes seems like a cool guy and is fun to watch. Still want both to lose for seeding purposes obviously 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out Could be a game where they take some shots. I have Olave and Waddle ahead of him - the real question is him or Aaron Jones in PPR and I'm probably going to go high floor with Jones. 1 minute ago, arcane said: I cannot bring myself to hate Mahomes, it's easier to hate Burrow, though I don't even really hate Burrow. Mahomes seems like a cool guy and is fun to watch. Still want both to lose for seeding purposes obviously Mahomes is basically Steve Young, and Allen is more Favre. I'd say Burrow is probably Aikman in this analogy. Obviously different leagues, play styles, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I think the Lions could win. They played really well last year. If Kelce misses significant time, I think the KC offense regresses quite a bit. But he isn’t supposed to be out for long. Probably not but he is 34. He has played a lot of football so he is getting to that age where he might start slowing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I marked this down as a win for Detroit last week and I'm going for that now. Come on LIONS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I don't see it. I don't trust Goff to string together back-to-back pro bowl type seasons. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect KC to win this one rather comfortably 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I don't see it. I don't trust Goff to string together back-to-back pro bowl type seasons. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect KC to win this one rather comfortably That’s my issue with the Lions. I actually don’t trust Goff or Campbell. They deserve credit for last year, and it seems they’ve turned things around, but QB/Coach combos mean everything. Goff has been an up and down player his entire career, and Campbell coaches with an emotional, high energy style. It seems those type of leaders find it difficult to sustain success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Chiefs went 12-4 the year they drafted Mahomes and 10-7 the year that he sat. Mahomes is great, but he took over an already good team, a luxury that not many rookie QBs have. He definitely ended up in the best spot possible. With a coach that enhanced his natural abilities to maximize potential. Remember, though, the Chiefs were great in the regular season but always flamed out in the playoffs. They blew multiple #1 and #2 seeds opportunities, including one with Reid. They won 1 playoff game in 30yrs and that was with Reid/Alex Smith. Mahomes was the missing piece that took them over the top. Elite qbs and coaches are judged by playoffs success. They have the perfect combination right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out Please let us know how that works out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, mannc said: Please let us know how that works out. I'll try to post about my teams a few times per page just for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The Lions won 8 of their last 10 in 2022 and got better in the off season. The Chiefs are without their best defensive player without whom their pass rush has been anemic at best. They are also very likely missing their best offensive weapon. KC is ripe for an upset here. The Lions will score and I think their D can make enough plays to squeak this one out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 No Kelsey and Lions at home. This is a winnable game for the Lions. Their offense has been very good the last few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: No Kelsey and Lions at home. This is a winnable game for the Lions. Their offense has been very good the last few games. its in KC they're the SB champs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 GO Lions! This will be a good game. The Lions are a tough team. They are tough in the trenches and play hard! Chiefs have a tough one tonight just as much as we have a tough one Monday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, arcane said: I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out I drafted MVS in the final round as well. I don't think he is any good but who else is Mahomes gonna throw to this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: I drafted MVS in the final round as well. I don't think he is any good but who else is Mahomes gonna throw to this season? I like Justyn Ross. Dude was their leading receiver on Clemson’s title team as a freshman but had some bad injuries since. He’s like 6’4”. I feel like mahomes is just playing a video game and it keeps getting harder right now. On paper, one could argue the Lions are more talented. But it’s really tough to bet against Mahomes and Reid. 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: its in KC they're the SB champs Yeah, this is definitely the way I’d lean. Like if the lions win, I’ll be really happy. But if I have money on it, I’d be really mad betting against the chiefs and losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Chiefs win going away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, arcane said: I cannot bring myself to hate Mahomes Totally agree. He's a really likable dude. Burrow, on the other hand, has a punchable face. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Chiefs calling up TE from practice squad. They must not think Kelce is playing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Not to be a prick... but how come the LIONS got that opening game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Not to be a prick... but how come the LIONS got that opening game? They're an entertaining team with an explosive offense, an exciting rookie RB, a funny HC who likes eating kneecaps and they're a feel good story where lots of neutral fans (me included) want to see them do well 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: They're an entertaining team with an explosive offense, an exciting rookie RB, a funny HC who likes eating kneecaps and they're a feel good story where lots of neutral fans (me included) want to see them do well Agree with all of this. Big lions supporter after watching hard knocks. Would like to see them be competitive in the NFC this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Gregg said: I would hope not. This is the NFL not the WWE. Have you heard how the Lions head coach talks? You sure about that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The Lions can definitely put up some points. At least last year they did. Problem is, they could put up 40 and lose by 7. Even if their D is better, they'll still need some breaks and a turnover or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I would not touch this game…way too many unknowns. There is almost no result that would surprise me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Kelce’s Knee vs. Kneecap Biters Go Lions to win Go Sun God, Gibbs, and Butker to score many points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: The Lions can definitely put up some points. At least last year they did. Problem is, they could put up 40 and lose by 7. Even if their D is better, they'll still need some breaks and a turnover or 2. Kelce's such a big part of KC and he only hurt his knee on Tuesday. He's not really replaceable and 2 days isn't enough time to plan for being without him. Not sure KC will put up 40 in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Chiefs win 34-24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 4 hours ago, SCBills said: I'm mentally prepared for the Chiefs to win this game without Jones and Kelce, while everyone acts like Mahomes performed a miracle with no weapons.. even though he has the best IOL in the NFL, along with a Day 2 pick from last year, Day 2 pick from the previous year and Day 1 pick from the year before that. Agreed. Lions have no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Kelce ruled out of the game tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Line is now -3.5. Dropped a full 3 points from before Kelce for injured. That is insane for a a single, non QB player. No other player in the league moves a spread that much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PetermansRedemption Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Process said: Line is now -3.5. Dropped a full 3 points from before Kelce for injured. That is insane for a a single, non QB player. No other player in the league moves a spread that much. Glad I got in at +6.5 and +225 ML 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I know that people don't like fantasy talk here, but I need advice. Should I replace Kelce with Cole Kmet, or pick up Kincaid, Knox or Gerald Everett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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