CNYfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Did Floyd play today, or is he under wraps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Is it too soon for the Bears to take the GSH off their uniforms? George Hallas has been dead for 40 years. Paul Brown got it right, named the team after himself. It's a lot harder to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Preseason games are for getting your starters in sync and evaluations of bubble players. I think today's game did just that, so it was a win. Beane has to do something at MLB. Kyle Allen may have to start the season as QB2 but Beane needs (at a minimum) to bring a better prospect at QB for the PS with hope he moves Kyle of the 53. At most get a qualified QB2 on the team before the 1st game. Look to upgrade (if possible) the OT situation. Depth at WR/TE/RB all look ok for the other offensive positions. The rest of the D (other than MLB) looks good enough for me. Let's get this done and start the season! Go Bills! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 52 minutes ago, JDubya76 said: Sounds like a show about nothing. Yeah but he's my butler! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Airseven said: Nope. It’s Rousseau, Oliver, Jones, Floyd in a rotational role, and an injured Miller. The rest is riff raff. You were hoping for fourteen All Pros? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, 4merper4mer said: You were hoping for fourteen All Pros? Pretty sure he's hoping for more riff raff. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, CNYfan said: Did Floyd play today, or is he under wraps? He played the first couple of defensive series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, scuba guy said: Young coach at New Mexico and than at cal burnley the director was opehomier. The a bomb guy He's a blast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: True but that is a rotational position. The whole point of the Bills staying in nickel the whole time is they can play run or pass with two do it all backers. If their LB packages show their hand it negates one of the strengths of the scheme. Fair point but the statistics on defense say that he played on 98% of Atlanta’s defensive snaps last year with well over a third of them being in a passing (presumably nickel) personnel. It isn’t looking pretty with anything we have on the roster. A cast off isn’t going to be worse and for a defense that lines up in a pass defensive unit more often than not, the biggest changes are for those at the front for gap control and technique. I’d rather they exhaust all options. He produced in Atlanta last year and did collegiately. We’ve seen it in the past where we’ve struggled to get off the field or make stops at crucial times in crucial games with this core staff and roster… with the way the LB play is looking, that might be rearing it’s head again. I am not, like most fans I’m sure, asking not expecting an All-Pro LB to be slotted into the need we have but there has to be an upgrade out there these coming weeks who is available for the team. Edited August 26, 2023 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Is it too soon for the Bears to take the GSH off their uniforms? George Hallas has been dead for 40 years. A common misconception. The year after Hallas' death, those were meant to signify his initials. Ever since then, it has been related to the Bears' performance on field: 'Golly! Sure Hurts!' Edited August 26, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Of all the preseason games I’ve seen this team play, this was definitely one of them. Onto the Jests. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, BBFL said: A cast off isn’t going to be great and for a defense that lines up in a pass defensive unit more often than not. Better with the cast off than with it still on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Better with the cast off than with it still on. Eh that was a typo, meant to say worse. Edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, BBFL said: Eh that was a typo, meant to say worse. Edited. I think you meant to say castoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Dan Darragh said: I think you meant to say castoff Sure Chakayla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I made a genuine request for a story...this board never disappoints with responses & humor 😃 Thank you...I think 😏 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 54 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Preseason games are for getting your starters in sync and evaluations of bubble players. I think today's game did just that, so it was a win. Beane has to do something at MLB. Kyle Allen may have to start the season as QB2 but Beane needs (at a minimum) to bring a better prospect at QB for the PS with hope he moves Kyle of the 53. At most get a qualified QB2 on the team before the 1st game. Look to upgrade (if possible) the OT situation. Depth at WR/TE/RB all look ok for the other offensive positions. The rest of the D (other than MLB) looks good enough for me. Let's get this done and start the season! Go Bills! Kyle Allen might be one of the worst Bills backups I've seen in 20 years. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Kyle Allen might be one of the worst Bills backups I've seen in 20 years. To be truthful I thought he was a good signing for the backup position. I was wrong. Barkley isn't any better, so they need another lotto ticket. As for the "worse" I won't go down that road. There wasn't even a decent starter through most of that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: He's a vet backup/situational back at this stage. I think he can adequately fill that role for this season and bring knowledge and experience for the young ones. I like the fact that he has fumbled 3 times in his last 1000 carries and lost none of them. Not a single lost fumble in the last 7 seasons I just think we have 4 or 5 guys better than him. It’s not a game for slow guys. At this stage, I want young legs at all the skill positions. I don’t expect him to make the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kyle Allen might be one of the worst Bills backups I've seen in 20 years. This sounds like a fun game. I don't like Kyle Allen either but let's plumb those depths. Bills QBs since 2003 not named Josh Allen. Not listed in any particular order. Rank em. If I missed anybody my apologies. Kyle Allen Jeff Tuel Nathan Peterman Brian Brohm Derek Anderson Joe Webb Thad Lewis Travis Brown Levi Brown Tyler Thigpen Cardale Jones JP Losman Kelly Holcomb Trent Edwards Ryan Fitzpatrick EJ Manuel Shane Matthews Drew Bledsoe Alex Van Pelt Davis Webb Case Keenum Matt Barkley edit: Tyrod Taylor Edited August 26, 2023 by That's No Moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Gabe Davis - 1 reception on 4 targets (15 yards) Stefon Diggs - 2 receptions on 2 targets (20 yards) Didn't watch the full game, just the game broken down into a 30 min cut, but looks like Gabe is still inconsistent in pulling down those passes despite the many chances. 1 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Gabe Davis - 1 reception on 4 targets (15 yards) Stefon Diggs - 2 receptions on 2 targets (20 yards) Didn't watch the full game, just the game broken down into a 30 min cut, but looks like Gabe is still inconsistent in pulling down those passes despite the many chances. One is a bad throw become an interception and another is a good defense play where the cornerback has his hand on the ball. Can’t recall the 3rd one, but don’t get an impression Davis is inconsistent pulling the ball in when watching the game. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kyle Allen might be one of the worst Bills backups I've seen in 20 years. Nathan Peterman says, "hello," from the Bears' sideline. And, LABILLBACKER. You must have been at that Chargers game at Stubhub, right? 6 minutes ago, syhuang said: One is a bad throw become an interception and another is a good defense play where the cornerback has his hand on the ball. Can’t recall the 3rd one, but don’t get an impression Davis is inconsistent pulling the ball in when watching the game. I disagree. The interception was a terrible route, where Davis gained zero leverage. It was also a terrible throw, but one that shouldn't have been made. The PBU was also a bad route with zero separation, and another was a drop. I would love to believe in Davis, but today did little to inspire, IMO. Edited August 26, 2023 by Rocky Landing 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Gabe Davis - 1 reception on 4 targets (15 yards) Stefon Diggs - 2 receptions on 2 targets (20 yards) Didn't watch the full game, just the game broken down into a 30 min cut, but looks like Gabe is still inconsistent in pulling down those passes despite the many chances. A “target” provides no context. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Hmm. Well coughing up a return today defeinitely hasn't helped his case. I don't think Harty has been stand out at all in pre-season. But I do think he is making the team. As their main returner if nothing else. His usage on O will be interesting to track. Sharty has shown ZERO juice in preseason. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I don’t consider myself an OL guru but Bates is one of our 3 best OL and they want to bench him. He probably would’ve beat out Spencer Brown at RT if given the opportunity. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Nathan Peterman says, "hello," from the Bears' sideline. And, LABILLBACKER. You must have been at that Chargers game at Stubhub, right? I disagree. The interception was a terrible route, where Davis gained zero leverage. It was also a terrible throw, but one that shouldn't have been made. The PBU was also a bad route with zero separation, and another was a drop. I would love to believe in Davis, but today did little to inspire, IMO. the post I replied to is about Davis having trouble pulling in the ball thrown to him, which I don’t have this impression during the game. The reply you made is about bad route, which may or may not be true, but is not what was discussed originally (have trouble pulling in the throws) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, syhuang said: One is a bad throw become an interception and another is a good defense play where the cornerback has his hand on the ball. Can’t recall the 3rd one, but don’t get an impression Davis is inconsistent pulling the ball in when watching the game. The "3rd" one was the first pass of the game where Allen put a slant right on his hands and he just plain dropped it. Excusing him for passes defended and interceptions ignores the fact that he doesn't play the position well enough to get open on the short and intermediate routes that move the chains. When you can't get open on most of the routes in the tree you gotta' be good at catching contested passes at least.........and he's not. That's why he can't be an efficient WR2. Last year Josh Allen's QB rating dropped a staggering 40 points when targeting Gabe(80) versus WR1 Diggs (120)..............and passes to Davis result in INT's more than any other target on the Bills. He does two things well.........run deep routes(like 9's and post routes)........ and then come back to the ball on very slow developing plays or scrambles. Edited August 26, 2023 by BADOLBILZ 5 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I don’t think Torrence had a very good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 This is classic Edmunds. Decides to give extra attention to the one WR that was already covered and lets Diggs run right by him uncontested. 4 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, syhuang said: One is a bad throw become an interception and another is a good defense play where the cornerback has his hand on the ball. Can’t recall the 3rd one, but don’t get an impression Davis is inconsistent pulling the ball in when watching the game. He had 2, including the first play of the game, that hit him in the hands and he dropped. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) On 8/26/2023 at 5:13 PM, BuffaninSarasota said: A “target” provides no context. It provides a start. No stat provides ALL context, but in conjunction with what we've seen before, it still has value. 2020 - 35 receptions on 62 targets (58%) 2021 - 35 receptions on 63 targets (56%) 2022 - 48 receptions on 93 targets (52%) So do QB's just throw worse every time they target Gabe? Or was Gabe 1 for 4 today because he either doesn't run the best routes, drops passes, or isn't able to get seperation & fight off defenders? By comparison, here's Diggs: 2020 - 127 receptions on 166 targets (77%) 2021 - 103 receptions on 164 targets (63%) 2022 - 108 receptions on 154 targets (70%) Guess Allen just throws better when targeting Diggs... Edited August 28, 2023 by BigDingus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He had 2, including the first play of the game, that hit him in the hands and he dropped. Josh looked pissed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 4 hours ago, PonyBoy said: On a side note...Bob Barker died 😔 99 years old. He lives as close as he could to 100 without going over. Respect. 3 1 2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I'd like to see more of Ty Johnson. He showed speed and power. Ability to hit the right holes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: The "3rd" one was the first pass of the game where Allen put a slant right on his hands and he just plain dropped it. Excusing him for passes defended and interceptions ignores the fact that he doesn't play the position well enough to get open on the short and intermediate routes that move the chains. When you can't get open on most of the routes in the tree you gotta' be good at catching contested passes at least.........and he's not. That's why he can't be an efficient WR2. Last year Josh Allen's QB rating dropped a staggering 40 points when targeting Gabe(80) versus WR1 Diggs (120)..............and passes to Davis result in INT's more than any other target on the Bills. He does two things well.........run deep routes(like 9's and post routes)........ and then come back to the ball on very slow developing plays or scrambles. I'm a Davis fan but have no defense for him today. Another flat out drop and the stats are what they are. Diggs needs 20 more targets during the season than compared to last year. They need to ride him to the SuperBowl and use him like the top 3 WR he is. Kincaid and Knox need to be option #2/3 on this offense. Let Davis pick up the scraps until he can prove he won't drop the easy ones and kill drives. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Starters did what they needed to do except: Davis - bad drops, almost fumbled his first down wide open catch, did not defend on the interception and could have knocked the ball down. Harty - Not seeing the extra gear we hear about. His punt returns sucked, both were long kicks that gave him a ton of space. Kincaid - Will need to rewatch but he got shut out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, ngbills said: Starters did what they needed to do except: Davis - bad drops, almost fumbled his first down wide open catch, did not defend on the interception and could have knocked the ball down. Harty - Not seeing the extra gear we hear about. His punt returns sucked, both were long kicks that gave him a ton of space. Kincaid - Will need to rewatch but he got shut out. Kincaid drew two defensive penalties. I am pretty sure they are keeping some of what Kincaid will do under wraps. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I do not like the mini toilet seat collar jerseys. What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Josh looked pissed. He should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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