Process Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 My prediction...he shows up tomorrow after getting his "message" across today 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: You had no issues with the offense last season? The offense was fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mango said: I assumed that when the team restructured Diggs they had spoken to him and had a reasonably accurate temperature on the situation. It feels like checking in after the way we ended the CIN game would have been a slam dunk...apparently not? In a worst case, doomsday scenario, Diggs could tank this roster by forcing his way out. (Most NFL contracts are written with permission for restructures up front. Teams do not need to get approval before restructuring) Most of the time teams don't talk to player before restructuring because it's built into their contract that they can do it and it is highly beneficial to the player since they get more money upfront, so what would they be upset about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Process said: My prediction...he shows up tomorrow after getting his "message" across today Would make sense....as he's actually in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: My source tells me Diggs is in Buffalo, just not at camp. My source assumes Diggs is trying to send some kind of message but he isn't sure what message or why. "Source". Sure. You got a 'Source '.... 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Process said: My prediction...he shows up tomorrow after getting his "message" across today What message is that exactly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Logic said: I understood Diggs being upset in Minnesota, because they were a run-first offense and showed no signs of changing, and he felt he was being underused and wasn't being allowed to reach his vast potential. I'm a lot less understanding of his being upset now. As others have pointed out, he's paid very well, he's on a very pass-first offense with a top five quarterback, and he's the focal point of the passing game. Besides, what does he really think he could get on another team that he doesn't have here? Short of joining the Chiefs, who does he honestly feel like would give him a better chance to win a ring at this point? Yes, I understand why he'd be aggravated with the coaches and potentially even Josh Allen, but I don't think that he's going about it the right way. A good teammate simply does not take his ball and go home when the going gets tough. You want changes to the way the offense is called or to what Josh is looking at when he drops back to pass? Fine. Come to offseason meetings (at LEAST the mandatory ones) and sit with the coaches and the QB and give input. Help shape the offense. Help improve the team from a scheming and play-calling perspective. I'm not bent out of shape about it. He's not the first player to skip mandatory camp and won't be the last. I DO think he's going about things the wrong way and is being unreasonable, though. Good post. The nature of this situation almost seems to guarantee he will be out there when the games count, and as you stated this is hardly unprecedented. That being said, he is starting to wear my patience thin with how he approaches things. I've always defended Diggs and love his competitiveness. Let's hope this is an issue that doesn't linger through the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Herb Nightly said: "Source". Sure. You got a 'Source '.... Actually he does & that source is always ON THE MONEY. He had Poyer's exact contract details the day before / Murray signing the day before, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I defended Diggs a lot to this point, but this is inexcusable IMO Yup. This is the first time I've actually thought he's a problem. The rest was just passion. No excuse for not showing up... ESPECIALLY after you sign a big extension and are named team captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Either way if he shows up tomorrow I can’t imagine Mcd lets it slide and trots him right out there. It’s essentially going to be a wasted camp for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 At this point Diggs is being a Beasley 2 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) I hope Josh Allen goes to meet with Diggs at his house after practice. Logically, there is either an issue between them or the coaching staff. Perhaps both. Edited June 13, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Oh ***** him. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Herb Nightly said: "Source". Sure. You got a 'Source '.... He does. Where have you been? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: What message is that exactly? "If you want to ignore me when the team needs me the most, then take a look at what your team really looks like without me" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, jletha said: I cant possibly understand what in the world Diggs could be protesting. He signed a new deal last year, hes on a top 3 offense with a top 3 QB. Whats the angle here? He wants to be traded...to where? He wants more money...based on what? Cut bait and sign Hopkins if this gets any uglier. Same, I have no idea why he’s sitting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, jletha said: I cant possibly understand what in the world Diggs could be protesting. He signed a new deal last year, hes on a top 3 offense with a top 3 QB. Whats the angle here? He wants to be traded...to where? He wants more money...based on what? Cut bait and sign Hopkins if this gets any uglier. He didn't sign a new contract. He was restructured. Most NFL contracts include approval for future restructures. From a contractual point of view there was no need to notify Diggs at all. Although after the way he behaved at the end of the season, one would think a team would make sure they weren't handcuffing themselves to a player who would refuse to show up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Probably tired of McD. Doubtful... he wasn't angry at McD on the sidelines like he was at Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Either way if he shows up tomorrow I can’t imagine Mcd lets it slide and trots him right out there. It’s essentially going to be a wasted camp for him. Like Diggs needs camp 🤣 And he'll be right out there with the starters the day he shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I guarantee he has a rift with Dorsey. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Everyone settle down. Divas like attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Tasker suggested that if Diggs isn't there it might actually help the team, as other receivers will get more reps. The fine is 16K for today? The guy has a 96 million dollar contract. That would be like me having to pay 50 cents to skip work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Maybe Diggs isn’t satisfied that they have done enough to help him out at Wr2? Maybe he has another photoshoot of some trendy clothes to model for everyone.. I don’t know, I really thought he would be there today.. He is still unbunching his undies. Should have them on soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I hope Josh Allen goes to meet with Diggs at his house after practice. Logically, there is either an issue between them or the coaching staff. Perhaps both. You would have thought that Josh would have worked things out with Diggs by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: I guarantee he has a rift with Dorsey. Grab a number, Stef. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: People need to relax. Give it time. I’m sure there’s something going on in his personal life that needs attention. If there was a serious issue at hand, Diggs could of at least given the team a heads up/excuse…McD’s response suggests he did neither…Not only is it unprofessional, but most certainly not the actions you would expect from a captain… Edited June 13, 2023 by JaCrispy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, wppete said: Now people are out of their minds. Not happening. He will be ready to roll week 1, if not tomorrow lmao 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, wppete said: Josh Allen needs to go talk with Diggs..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 There's got to be some unresolved conflict between he and Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: His brother(not Travon) was involved in some serious legal trouble. Not sure if this is related to him not showing up at camp, just throwing that out there. Then McD wouldn’t have called it “concerning.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: I guarantee he has a rift with Dorsey. I think it's mostly this. And a bit of McD being soft. At the MNF game, Diggs was the only player getting ready to re-take the field and pumping his teammates up before McD pulled the plug. At the Cincy playoff game, Diggs was one of maybe 3 players (Milano and kinda Edmunds) that showed up to play. I think he wants more fire from the coach. Plus a different Offensive philosophy. Again, totally guessing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, JaCrispy said: If there was a serious issue at hand, Diggs could of at least given the team a heads up/excuse…McD’s response suggests he did neither…Not only is it unprofessional, but most certainly not the actions you would expect from a captain… He won't be a captain if this goes on for too much longer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 At least we have some really good outside WR depth. Oh wait, that was 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: You would have thought that Josh would have worked things out with Diggs by now. You'd hope so. But, who knows? It's likely they haven't seen each other since the end of the Bengals game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Most of the time teams don't talk to player before restructuring because it's built into their contract that they can do it and it is highly beneficial to the player since they get more money upfront, so what would they be upset about? Right, that is what I am saying. Haha I included that portion because in the mini-camp thread somebody replied to me that Diggs had to sign off on a restructure. I didn't want to re-hash it over here. My point about reaching out to Diggs was that we knew we would be totally handcuffed to him with a restructure. And we know the way he behaved to end the season and his series of super weird and cryptic tweets. It would be professional due diligence in this scenario to try and get a reality check. All I take from him not showing up today (even if he shows up tomorrow), his offseason oddities, and the way he ended last season is that Diggs is willing to blow this season up if he becomes unhappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Is there really some problem or offense disfunction that he is bringing to light? Does he have a point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Herb Nightly said: Is there really some problem or offense disfunction that he is bringing to light? Does he have a point? IMO, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Like Diggs needs camp 🤣 And he'll be right out there with the starters the day he shows up. Diggs may not "need" camp. But if he was as big of a "competitor who wants to win" maybe showing up and working with his team and the new faces in the WR room is a better way to accomplish that. It's kinda how a team captain may be looked at to perform. Stef is being all about Stef. Not he team. Not winning. Not improving. He's had months to get over any squabble he had with coaching or Allen or whatever else has his knickers in a bunch. Did his photo shoots get in the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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