TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) He gave up 78% completions, 9.9 YPC, 111 QBR last year. Positives he missed 3 tackles. 2021 54%, 8.7, 74.7 QBR 2020 63%, 11.7, 92.8 QBR Low missed tackles every year. Pretty inconsistent year to year coverage wise. 2022 version doesn’t make this team, but 2021 version could start. His size, strengths, weaknesses, and combine measurements have safety written all over them. Edited June 7, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 That's an much better title! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hold me closer Cameron Dantzler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Prospector said: Please let him be competition for Lewis, that guy is lost even when he is doing his assignment. There has rarely been a player that I notice over and over again at being horrible. It jumps off the screen at how bad at football he is. 59 minutes ago, finn said: Agree. Unless he's doing quiet things away from the ball that keeps the QB from throwing his direction. Every time he appears onscreen, he's blowing the coverage. Just good enough to make it close, but I don't recall any wins from him. And yet, they keep bringing him back. He made the single most stupid and costly play of the whole season against the Vikings by going for a pick on 4th and forever on a ball that, if not for him suspending it in the air, Jefferson had no chance at catching. That situationally oblivious play cost them a bye in the playoffs. He should have been cut that day. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: They are not at all satisfied with CB2 If the Bills brought in another qb for camp would we just assume Josh Allen isn’t looking good? No dude, it’s depth. Good teams need it. Heck, all teams need it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 But can he core a apple? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: But can he core a apple? 🤔 ohhhh he can core a apple. zip zip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, finn said: Agree. Unless he's doing quiet things away from the ball that keeps the QB from throwing his direction. Every time he appears onscreen, he's blowing the coverage. Just good enough to make it close, but I don't recall any wins from him. And yet, they keep bringing him back. He's a PS level, former UDFA, who has lasted 4 years in the league and started 4 times inbetween bouncing on and off the active roster. When a guy like that starts you are not in trouble because that guy starts so much as you are in trouble because of who is not starting. The Bills never put him out there through pure choice. It was always injury related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He gave up 78% completions, 9.9 YPC, 111 QBR last year. Positives he missed 3 tackles. 2021 54%, 8.7, 74.7 QBR 2020 63%, 11.7, 92.8 QBR Low missed tackles every year. Pretty inconsistent year to year coverage wise. 2022 version doesn’t make this team, but 2021 version could start. His size, strengths, weaknesses, and combine measurements have safety written all over them. I was just going to post the question if this guy could project to Safety in the future.....gotta start preparing for the eventual decline of Poyer/Hyde in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Good fit for what they do. Interesting depth add. I remember there was someone in that college program connected to McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: Good fit for what they do. Interesting depth add. I remember there was someone in that college program connected to McDermott. When they passed on him in that 3rd round in favour of Moss my immediate thought was length, because as you say there were lots of dots to connect the Bills to him and his style of play is a fit. But for a guy 6ft2 he has short arms - sub 31". We know how much the Bills value arm length as a trait in their corners. Later that night however Beane gushed about Zack Moss and said he had to sit on his hands to avoid trading UP to pick him (imagine how 🤢 that would have been). So maybe that was not a significant factor, and interesting that they have brought him in. Do we know what he signed for in Washington? Odd that all he could get on the open market is bare vet minimum and if the Commanders gave him more than that then why did they cut him so quickly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Yeah. I don't know if that's what this is. They upgraded CB7 by swapping McMichael for Dantzler - now he's competing for a chance at the 53 man roster. Camreon Dantzler is competing with Siran Neal, Cam Lewis, Alex Austin and Ja'Marcus Ingram. He's not competing with Kaiir Elam. STARTERS Tre White Kaiir Elam Taron Johnson BACKUPS Christian Benford Dane Jackson Everyone is competing with everyone at CB. I don't think you can even say that Tre White is a lock to be starting, if he is still playing like he did at the end of last season. (hopefully he is close to his old form this year) The best guys should make the final roster and see the field at every position. It should not matter where they are drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: When they passed on him in that 3rd round in favour of Moss my immediate thought was length, because as you say there were lots of dots to connect the Bills to him and his style of play is a fit. But for a guy 6ft2 he has short arms - sub 31". We know how much the Bills value arm length as a trait in their corners. Later that night however Beane gushed about Zack Moss and said he had to sit on his hands to avoid trading UP to pick him (imagine how 🤢 that would have been). So maybe that was not a significant factor, and interesting that they have brought him in. Do we know what he signed for in Washington? Odd that all he could get on the open market is bare vet minimum and if the Commanders gave him more than that then why did they cut him so quickly? Maybe their 1st round pick CB Forbes may have a little to do with cutting him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, phypon said: That's an much better title! You do realize that you….nevermind. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said: Hold me closer Cameron Dantzler 4 hours ago, OZBILLS said: Tiny Dantzler. Great song Personally I was thinking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: Maybe their 1st round pick CB Forbes may have a little to do with cutting him? Possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Former high pick with a chip... Zone guy in a zone defense. I bet he sticks as depth, and has a solid season in rotation. I like this signing. McD knows DB's and seems to get the most out of these types of guys. +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Who? And who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Started his career well and then fell off a cliff. Had some injury issues as well as an unspecified personal issue which caused him to miss time with the Vikes. Once upon a time, they were excited about him in Minnesota. But he fell from CB1 to CB6 and was eventually waived. The Commanders then recently gave him a look but cut him after just two months. It's not a good career trajectory. Hopefully, he can reverse things with us though I'm not sure I'm optimistic. vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/cameron-dantzlers-fall-from-grace-is-mind-boggling www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/surprising-fall-cameron-dantzler-cornerback-future-vikings-49ers-scratch Edited June 7, 2023 by hondo in seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, babulator said: Former high pick with a chip... Zone guy in a zone defense. I bet he sticks as depth, and has a solid season in rotation. I like this signing. McD knows DB's and seems to get the most out of these types of guys. +1 Agree with this. He looks good on Zone and is tall and long. Fits Mcds system… hope he sticks as #4 CB and then we love Benford to Safety. Benford can be a very good safety in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 hours ago, OZBILLS said: Tiny Dantzler. Great song I thought he dances for money, oh wait it was the military guy Pvt Dantzler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Everyone is competing with everyone at CB. I don't think you can even say that Tre White is a lock to be starting, if he is still playing like he did at the end of last season. (hopefully he is close to his old form this year) The best guys should make the final roster and see the field at every position. It should not matter where they are drafted. Fair. White was a shell of himself when he returned. Elam was benched or starting on any given Sunday. It’s become clear Jackson isn’t fit for a featured role. Upside signings like this can only benefit the roster at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Yeah. I don't know if that's what this is. They upgraded CB7 by swapping McMichael for Dantzler - now he's competing for a chance at the 53 man roster. Camreon Dantzler is competing with Siran Neal, Cam Lewis, Alex Austin and Ja'Marcus Ingram. He's not competing with Kaiir Elam. STARTERS Tre White Kaiir Elam Taron Johnson BACKUPS Christian Benford Dane Jackson Based on what they are saying on practice performance, it doesn't seem like Elam is a lock to start. He is imo the best out of everyone not named Tre. Edited June 7, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Airseven said: Fair. White was a shell of himself when he returned. Elam was benched or starting on any given Sunday. It’s become clear Jackson isn’t fit for a featured role. Upside signings like this can only benefit the roster at this point. Yeah he got pulled around somewhere about mid season or so I think it may have been, but I don't know how you felt about him toward last of season, to me he looked as if he improved quite well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: They are not at all satisfied with CB2 I don't think they expect Dantzler to win a starting job. If he does, the Bills' CBs as a group are a lot worse than I think they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Excellent breakdown of Danzler by Cover1 guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: Who? And who? I don't know you from Adam, but reading your answer, it's playing in my head in an outraged Jackie Chiles voice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 There was talk today from a reported who said they think McD is going to try to run more formations with only one LB and an extra S or DB. That might make sense and I'm honestly better with that than musical chairs at MLB. While this might open us up against the run game, we've spend so much damn draft capital and FA money on the DL, that they better be able to hold their own a little. And honestly, I think a SS (Rapp/Poyer) can tackle as well as Edmunds "please push me back 5 yards". 1 hour ago, Patrick Duffy said: Yeah he got pulled around somewhere about mid season or so I think it may have been, but I don't know how you felt about him toward last of season, to me he looked as if he improved quite well Yeah, it seemed like Elam solidified moreso by the end of the season. Benford is the real question mark to me, as in where they will play him this season. Also, please never change your avatar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Excellent breakdown of Danzler by Cover1 guys. The kid shows some talent, granted it’s a highlight reel, the question is will he be used to his strengths, I’m not certain Elam was used to his strengths, even with his three interceptions in his rookie year, I don’t think he was on the field as much as he should have been, jmo. Good signing by Beane, competition is always good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, Virgil said: There was talk today from a reported who said they think McD is going to try to run more formations with only one LB and an extra S or DB. That might make sense and I'm honestly better with that than musical chairs at MLB. While this might open us up against the run game, we've spend so much damn draft capital and FA money on the DL, that they better be able to hold their own a little. And honestly, I think a SS (Rapp/Poyer) can tackle as well as Edmunds "please push me back 5 yards". Yeah, it seemed like Elam solidified moreso by the end of the season. Benford is the real question mark to me, as in where they will play him this season. Also, please never change your avatar I think I just took Elam a while because he is so used to being oppressed man corner and is switching over to a zone It never hurts to keep putting talent in the room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Edited June 7, 2023 by Maine-iac 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Virgil said: Yeah, it seemed like Elam solidified moreso by the end of the season. Benford is the real question mark to me, as in where they will play him this season. Also, please never change your avatar Agree with you regarding Elam, as for Benford I think he will play in the same way he was. I don't see him getting moved unless it's an absolute emergency and not much choice. He had an encouraging rookie year and is learning the position still. I just think they wouldn't put him somewhere else this early that he has to learn until seeing more of what he can do in the position he's at. And I don't plan on changing the avatar lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 15 hours ago, boyst said: Cameron Dantzler tweets out frustration over playing time - SI interesting. Hope they don't put his locker too close to Diggs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 A little upgrade here, a little upgrade there, and BOOM, before you know it - Super Bowl victory. Now Beane needs to find a way to sign D-Hop! Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) White Elam Taron Dantzler Benford Jackson Austin Neal How many CB's are we keeping? Usually 6? Edited June 8, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 9:08 AM, KingBoots8 said: I like this signing. He played pretty well and was a 3rd round pick for the Vikings. Started 26/35 games, so he has good experience. He certainly had a shot to crack the 53 Wowsers, sounds promising and at least kicking the can to see what is inside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BuffaloFan68 said: A little upgrade here, a little upgrade there, and BOOM, before you know it - Super Bowl victory. Now Beane needs to find a way to sign D-Hop! Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! Edited June 8, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 90% won't know these two...😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: White Elam Taron Dantzler Benford Jackson Austin Neal How many CB's are we keeping? Usually 6? With our base nickel, Neal's role on ST after Taiwan Jones, and the rumor of McDermott running single LB formations, I could well imagine seven DBs this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I’m surprised to see a guy with this much starting experience and with pretty high quality tape out there at this point on the cheap. This could be a really good addition. Maybe there’s something we aren’t aware of, but looks like a great signing on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdo67 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 6:28 AM, wppete said: I like this signing. Plays similar to Levi Wallace. Hopefully this workouts out as our #4 CB and Cristian Benford moves to Safety and Nickle CB backup. We now have 4 solid Safetys if this happens. Levi Wallace don't like to get f*cked by anybody but Mrs. Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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