Hopkins released by Arizona (7/16: signed by Titans)

[TAinLack.]

This reminds me of the Mario Williams saga, so don't let DHOP leave town until he's a Bill!

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

And even if he DOES care about the money, he's getting 22 mil not to play for Arizona, so he can afford to play somewhere cheap.

 

I want to go on the record as also being willing to not play for the Cardinals for $22 Mil. You read it here first. 

3 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Going from Arizona to Buffalo for Mexican food?

 

Yikes 

 

Mighty Taco, baby! 

[wppete]

 Hi has been in Toronto training. 

[Coach Tuesday]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I want to go on the record as also being willing to not play for the Cardinals for $22 Mil. You read it here first. 

 

Mighty Taco, baby! 

You’ve done FAR worse for $20.

[mjt328]

31 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

My personal opinion after watching football for 40 years, Wide Receivers are never the missing piece and do not put teams over the top in winning championships.  All the wr trades and big signings through the years and very few have resulted in championships.  

 

High end wr who were released traded and never won a championship

 

Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chris Carter, Joey Galloway, Antonio Brown, Brandon Marshall, andre rison, Roy Williams, etc. etc.

 

Its usually the guys in the trenches who make the biggest differences and the WR are usually home grown on the championship teams.  I would be really careful about giving money to an older wr who is expecting to come in and automatically win just because.  Teams with those types of guys always seemingly get beat in the playoffs.  

 

Outside of Quarterback, it's hard to point to any single position and say definitively that it was THE missing piece in the championship.

 

Obviously Matthew Stafford was the biggest move for the Super Bowl Rams two years ago.  But it could certainly be argued that Odell Beckham and Von Miller helped give them the final push in the last quarter of the season.  

 

From your short list of receivers above, I would point out that adding Randy Moss almost helped the Patriots complete an undefeated 19-0 season.  You can't really blame him for the team falling short in the Super Bowl.  Adding Terrell Owens in free agency helped the Andy Reid-led Eagles finally get over the NFC Championship hump.  And many believe that if he was healthy in that Super Bowl, Philly might have ended up winning.  

 

It could also be argued that drafting Reggie Wayne was ultimately the missing piece that pushed the Colts to the next level.  Even if it didn't result in an immediate ring.  Same argument could be made for Jamar Chase and the current Bengals.

The point is... adding DeAndre Hopkins to an offense that already has Stefon Diggs is borderline unstoppable.  He makes this team better, gives them a better chance of getting past the Chiefs/Bengals and ultimately winning the Super Bowl.  

[gobills404]

46 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

My personal opinion after watching football for 40 years, Wide Receivers are never the missing piece and do not put teams over the top in winning championships.  All the wr trades and big signings through the years and very few have resulted in championships.  

 

High end wr who were released traded and never won a championship

 

Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chris Carter, Joey Galloway, Antonio Brown, Brandon Marshall, andre rison, Roy Williams, etc. etc.

 

Its usually the guys in the trenches who make the biggest differences and the WR are usually home grown on the championship teams.  I would be really careful about giving money to an older wr who is expecting to come in and automatically win just because.  Teams with those types of guys always seemingly get beat in the playoffs.  

I don’t disagree, but it’s about who’s available. If you know of any linemen that are available right now and would make a bigger impact than Hopkins then I’m all ears.

[Dablitzkrieg]

[MikePJ76]

Just now, gobills404 said:

I don’t disagree, but it’s about who’s available. If you know of any linemen that are available right now and would make a bigger impact than Hopkins then I’m all ears.

this isn't the time of year to make those signings obviously.  

 

My point is that you cant put the organization in a bad position going forward to fit a large salary for a wr who looks to be on the decline and has had some issues.  Also these types of guys always think they are coming is as hero's and just expect to win...when it doesn't happen they are not good locker room guys.

 

on the flip side of that, he is the type of wr buffalo does not have, he is big and makes catches in difficult positions at odd angles and in traffic.  

 

I just personally think making adjustments to contracts to squeeze in 15+ million for a wr at his age is not a smart move.  It is a win now at all costs move however and if they feel they only have 1 or 2 more seasons with this group before they have to make some sort of major changes to the roster or staff I could sort of understand.

 

I think he ends up in baltimore and I kind of want that to happen so I can watch the ravens meltdown late in the year with a bunch of guys who seem only motivated by money.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

this isn't the time of year to make those signings obviously.  

 

My point is that you cant put the organization in a bad position going forward to fit a large salary for a wr who looks to be on the decline and has had some issues.  Also these types of guys always think they are coming is as hero's and just expect to win...when it doesn't happen they are not good locker room guys.

 

on the flip side of that, he is the type of wr buffalo does not have, he is big and makes catches in difficult positions at odd angles and in traffic.  

 

I just personally think making adjustments to contracts to squeeze in 15+ million for a wr at his age is not a smart move.  It is a win now at all costs move however and if they feel they only have 1 or 2 more seasons with this group before they have to make some sort of major changes to the roster or staff I could sort of understand.

 

I think he ends up in baltimore and I kind of want that to happen so I can watch the ravens meltdown late in the year with a bunch of guys who seem only motivated by money.

I have some bad news for you then

 

every single player on the Bills is only motivated by money

[Warriorspikes51]

Do we try to sign him for 1 year? Or do we go for 2-3?

[0017]

My son just called casa azul, they said DeAndre Hopkins is not there. But the girl that answered the phone also wasn’t sure who that is soooo 😂

Edited May 27, 2023 by 0017

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Do we try to sign him for 1 year? Or do we go for 2-3?

So he's signing?

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I have some bad news for you then

 

every single player on the Bills is only motivated by money

I would say that claiming they are ONLY motivated by money is a bit of an overstatement. Sure, money matters. Matters to everyone no matter what their job is, right? But some guys do have other things that motivate them.  Some do want to win. Some want to play with guys they know.  And yes, some are just hired mercs looking for a payday. 

 

Everything that would factor into you taking a new job factors in for them too. What's the pay? What's the company like? Where is it? What's the atmosphere?  Believe me, if a guy would make a million or so less playing here or for Philly, KC or another top team over making more playing for a crud franchise...that extra million or so doesn't carry much weight for some.

[Starr Almighty]

30 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

I used to work with Danny and knew him well. Great guy. Defintely not the type to make things up. 

you were saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

 

[GoBills808]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

I would say that claiming they are ONLY motivated by money is a bit of an overstatement. Sure, money matters. Matters to everyone no matter what their job is, right? But some guys do have other things that motivate them.  Some do want to win. Some want to play with guys they know.  And yes, some are just hired mercs looking for a payday. 

 

Everything that would factor into you taking a new job factors in for them too. What's the pay? What's the company like? Where is it? What's the atmosphere?  Believe me, if a guy would make a million or so less playing here or for Philly, KC or another top team over making more playing for a crud franchise...that extra million or so doesn't carry much weight for some.

I think they all want to win and they all want to play w guys they like but to a man every single NFL athlete cares predominantly about how much they earn, way above all else. And I think that's largely in their best interest because that's how their employer views them

[Bob Jones]

36 minutes ago, FluffHead said:

Their last post was four days ago. Do some due diligence 😂

You sure about that? 

[akcash]

Is that ***** real or not?

[DCofNC]

3 years, 33M total, 29M signing bonus, last year player voidable.  Dooooo it.

[Franco_92]

Just now, akcash said:

Is that ***** real or not?

No Nate's being a r*tard like usual 

[Mr. WEO]

301!!

[Gunsgoodtime]

Where is the Pegula jet???  We need an update! Lol

[FluffHead]

3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

You sure about that? 

I read it as you meant @dannylicker 

 

turns out Nate Geary is a giant douche, which we all knew anyway, who threw away the bit of credibility he had based on his part time employer. 

 

carry on 

[stevestojan]

3 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Where is the Pegula jet???  We need an update! Lol

No, Deandre is at the Mighty Taco on Sheridan. No need for Terry to send a jet. Dude was just really looking for Authentic Mexican; impossible to find in AZ. I know. I lived there. 

[RyanC883]

he wants to come here.  We need to make this happen.  Restructure whoever we must.  

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

53 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

And even if he DOES care about the money, he's getting 22 mil not to play for Arizona, so he can afford to play somewhere cheap.

 

So coaches contracts often contain offsets if they take a new job.  Do players contracts contain any of the same?

[JPPT1974]

Wonder where he will land and if he will agree to less money?!

[Sierra Foothills]

7 hours ago, nucci said:

kick the tires, don't overpay, on the cheap, team friendly deal

 

"On 3, READY... BREAK!!!"

 

7 hours ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

I got a crisp $20 to throw in...

 

Crisp currency does not have greater, value dumb dumb.

 

7 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

No way he comes to Buffalo we are just not that lucky.

 

Is that what you were saying when Von Miller became a Bill?

 

7 hours ago, Special K said:

They might be interested in him, but why would Hopkins be interested in noodle-arm Mac Jones as his QB???

 

Don't you mean Bailey Zappe?

 

6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

MAKE

IT

HAPPEN!

 

My... you have a large font...

 

6 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Everytime I get excited about something like this….some other team comes out of nowhere and makes it happen. Please let this be the time that we pull the trigger

 

Have you considered not getting excited? Maybe the reverse strategy? Just a thought.

 

6 hours ago, Gregg said:

That like comparing a Porsche to a tricycle.

 

What brand of tricycle?

 

5 hours ago, Ray Finkel said:

I remember when the Bills went and added James Lofton to their roster at the age of 35.  He gave us 3 solid years and made us a Super Bowl contender.  

 

Difference is Lofton could take the top of a defense and that was hugely helpful to Kelly, Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas.

 

DHop on the other hand never could take a top off a defense and now he's older and slower.

 

23 minutes ago, 0017 said:

My son just called casa azul, they said deandre Hopkins is not there. But she also wasn’t sure who that is soooo 😂

 

Your son is... a she?

 

20 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

you were saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

That's DeAndre HoSkins!!! *****!!!

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by Sierra Foothills

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

9 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Where is the Pegula jet???  We need an update! Lol

 

Hopkins was quoted as saying he was working out in Toronto so no need for the the jet.  Check with customs agents on the bridge!

[Nihilarian]

DO EEEEET! 

[BillsFan2313]

22 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

you were saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

 

 

I guess he has become an ass over the years lol

[Merle]

59 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

And even if he DOES care about the money, he's getting 22 mil not to play for Arizona, so he can afford to play somewhere cheap.

Actually, I don't think that's quite true.   He won't be getting ANY "new money" from the Cardinals in 2023.   That 22 mil (or more) is what Arizona is on the hook for in "dead cap space" money for what they have already paid him in the past.   He made a LOT over the past 2 years, but he's not getting paid by them now (or in the future).

[purple haze]

8 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

He has hinted a lot about coming here, so let's see if it was all talk or if he was serious 

The money will have to be right. It’s a business.

[dayman]

3 minutes ago, purple haze said:

The money will have to be right. It’s a business.

A business where you get fired if you don’t win the Super Bowl. Especially when you have Allen as QB.

 

 Do it. It’s good for business

[Merle]

I think when Hopkins saw what OBJ was able to get, even after sitting out all last year, he's is going to want something close to that ($15 mil/yr, with a possible additional $3 mil more with "incentives").

Edited May 27, 2023 by Merle

[Doc Brown]

I don’t want him but I don’t want another AFC team to sign him.  Just retire.

[stevestojan]

Can I report Nate for a hate crime? 

[SCBills]

 

[Draconator]

1 minute ago, stevestojan said:

Can I report Nate for a hate crime? 

You can report him for being ugly. Same thing

[Buffalo Junction]

5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I don’t want him but I don’t want another AFC team to sign him.  Just retire.

I certainly wouldn’t complain if he went to the NFC. Particularly if it was to a team that was in that second tier like NYG or Det. 

[Chicken Boo]

The Bills and Chiefs are #31 & #32 in cap room.  The Jets are still #1 and Cincinnati, who doesn't need him, is #13 according to Spotrac.