Hopkins released by Arizona (7/16: signed by Titans)

[SCBills]

Shaq didn’t play with Hop, but both are in Clemson often.  I’m sure they’ve crossed paths quite a bit.

 

Im pretty sure Hop is in Clemson right now actually.  His IG story is at a farmers market about 10 minutes from the university. 

 

Edited May 26, 2023 by SCBills

[Einstein]

To quote a Chiefs fan I just read on their forum: "Allen throwing to Diggs, Kincaid and Hopkins would be a headache."

 

Make. It. Happen.

[ngbills]

12 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

While I definitely agree with you, I believe the person who will benefit most from DHop is Davis. It puts him back at #3 where he is the most dangerous.

 

Case in point, the KC playoff game.

Agreed. That is the point many are missing. Its not just we dont need another WR bc we have a bunch of decent guys. Its what he does to the WR room. He makes every other guy better just because of the attention he will require. 

[SCBills]

16 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

FWIW....KC has no cap space (as most of you know)  

 

They could free up a chunk whenever they resign Chris Jones.  HOWEVER, he's waiting for Quenin Williams to be done so that he can be 2nd highest paid DT in NFL (Behind Aaron Donald)  Williams deal isn't getting done soon...and so KC isn't going to have cap space anytime soon IF they were interested.  

 

I do not think, for the price, KC will be in the market.  Hopkins would have to cost about 3-4 million for it to work in KC and he isn't going to be that cheap.  

 

Despite the insanity of Chiefs twitter today all about this.....he isn't going to be a Chief.  Maybe a Charger...but not a Chief....take that to the bank.

Welp… I suppose I’ll spend all Memorial Day Weekend dreading any headlines that say “We’ve agreed to terms with Quinnen Williams…”

[MAJBobby]

 

[HappyDays]

If Donovan Smith is the reason the Chiefs can't afford Hopkins that is amazing luck for us.

[JJGauna]

In before page #200

 

Surely we can’t work it? Or can we?

[gordong]

Just now, JJGauna said:

In before page #200

 

Surely we can’t work it? Or can we?

if you would check page 176 you would see money is not a problem..  

[BillsSbSoon]

Beane needs to make this happen. When you have a guy of his caliber that wants to come here, get it done. Kincaid is a rookie, and we don’t really know what we’re going to get from Davis. Dhop put up big numbers after that suspension with scrubs throwing him the ball after Murray got hurt. 

[Royale with Cheese]

If this happens, Davis will have his snaps significantly cut.  They aren’t having Kincaid on the sidelines a lot.  DHop and Diggs on the outside.  

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

If this happens, Davis will have his snaps significantly cut.  They aren’t having Kincaid on the sidelines a lot.  DHop and Diggs on the outside.  

Davis becomes WR#3 where he will excel.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

31 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Lol every Bill is recruiting this dude and we have fans being like “we’re all set”

 

Because he's an excellent player, I'm not saying I wouldn't like to have him on the Bills but people also on this board think we have no weapons which is also laughable, just sayin.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

If Diggs ever went down, we are screwed. This negates that. Do it.

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The Jets have been run incredibly well the last two years.

 

I don't love the Rodgers move, but I think that was an ownership decision. Their other moves have been fantastic.

I'd agree that they drafted well last year. But all the moves they made due to that ownership decision to bring Rodgers in (basically turning into Packers East Coast) on offense was very short sighted. They look to have overpaid for Lazard to make Aaron happy. Got older at the skill positions and tied up a lot of money to do it. They are VERY fortunate to get Rodgers at such a low price this year....but next year they are in a situation and will have A Williams new contract on the books as well. 

 

They are basically saying "we have 1 year to win it all". And they pushed all on with the Chiefs, Bengals and Bills still closer then they are. Saleh is talking a HUGE game right now by putting the Jets on the same level as those teams just because they traded for a 40 year old QB who won 8 games last year and missed the playoffs by losing a home game in the last week to the Lions. 

 

 

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

Davis becomes WR#3 where he will excel.

People keep saying WR3....what does that mean to you specifically?

 

Because Davis isn't playing the slot, which means if we have our top 3 on the field that puts either Diggs or Dhop in the slot.   Which to me, is a waste of resources.  That's where Kincaid and Shakir will split reps.

 

So basically Wr3 means backup/limited snaps, is that what you mean?

[BillMafia716ix]

Don’t think it’s going to happen if they wanted him they would’ve traded for him. We don’t have the money. Plus they already signed Trent Sherfield and gave Harty a 2yr deal.

[GETTOTHE50]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'd agree that they drafted well last year. But all the moves they made due to that ownership decision to bring Rodgers in (basically turning into Packers East Coast) on offense was very short sighted. They look to have overpaid for Lazard to make Aaron happy. Got older at the skill positions and tied up a lot of money to do it. They are VERY fortunate to get Rodgers at such a low price this year....but next year they are in a situation and will have A Williams new contract on the books as well. 

 

They are basically saying "we have 1 year to win it all". And they pushed all on with the Chiefs, Bengals and Bills still closer then they are. Saleh is talking a HUGE game right now by putting the Jets on the same level as those teams just because they traded for a 40 year old QB who won 8 games last year and missed the playoffs by losing a home game in the last week to the Lions. 

 

 

coach salad is a joke. calling it now- rogers is going to get coach potato salad fired after the team fails to live up to hype, and then rogers will lobby to get hid buddy coach-cant-hackett hired. after one year with hackett, rogers is going to retire. they are just taking the most round about way to getting to square 1 again.

[MasterStrategist]

6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

If this happens, Davis will have his snaps significantly cut.  They aren’t having Kincaid on the sidelines a lot.  DHop and Diggs on the outside.  

Exactly.  Which makes no sense at this point.  Basically relegates Davis to a glorified backup, and no chance of signing him long term (which would contradict what Beane has said).

 

If we're looking to spend big $$$s still, it would be better used at a position of weakness, ie: possibly RT, improving pass rush

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Davis becomes WR#3 where he will excel.

Where he needs to be.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I believe at 4pm it becomes official. 
 

 

[TheBrownBear]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

Exactly.  Which makes no sense at this point.  Basically relegates Davis to a glorified backup, and no chance of signing him long term (which would contradict what Beane has said).

 

If we're looking to spend big $$$s still, it would be better used at a position of weakness, ie: possibly RT, improving pass rush

Are there any potential post-June 1st cuts at RT or pass rusher that makes it imperative that we hold onto whatever remaining cash we have?  I definitely agree with your overall point.  You only sign Hopkins if you are okay putting Davis on the bench.

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

People keep saying WR3....what does that mean to you specifically?

 

Because Davis isn't playing the slot, which means if we have our top 3 on the field that puts either Diggs or Dhop in the slot.   Which to me, is a waste of resources.  That's where Kincaid and Shakir will split reps.

 

So basically Wr3 means backup/limited snaps, is that what you mean?

There's a locked on podcast by Joe Marino where he talks about Davis and WR3 a fair bit. Of course, maybe he's wrong in his assessment. I take it the position is largely the long ball routes Davis does well with minus the short and mid-range routes that WR2 also incorporates. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Imagine Philly.

 

 

[BigDingus]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

The teams that can most afford to pay him are not really in their Super Bowl window. The one wild card I could see is the Lions maybe.

 

Exactly. I don't think teams in the SB window are the ones that are going to offer the most money. There are plenty of times optimistic or desperate teams overpay for a star FA. 

 

Teams like the Bears or Jags who want to show they're giving their young QB help, or the Lions, as you mentioned, wouldn't surprise me. Bills & Chiefs are 2 of the 3 teams with the least cap space, so I don't expect them to sign him. Either way, I'd think the Ravens or even Eagles would have a better shot than Buffalo (even if it'd be kind of a luxury pickup). I'm sure the Eagles would like him next to AJ Brown & Devonta Smith, even if it's not "necessary."

[Dr. Who]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Imagine Philly.

 

 

You seem to enjoy linking him to other teams. I'll imagine him in Buffalo where he would make a dangerous offense nearly impossible to defend.

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Imagine Philly.

 

 

 

Yea but this would relegate Devonte Smith to the bench………

[ndirish1978]

I'm not letting the future of Gabe Davis stop me from making this move. 

[Success]

I'm hoping he goes to the NFC.

 

I really don't think the Bills will do this.  He's an expensive addition.

 

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, Unsavory Peterman said:

Be a process guy.  300 beers and he's ours

So by Monday then, got it. 👍

[MasterStrategist]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

There's a locked on podcast by Joe Marino where he talks about Davis and WR3 a fair bit. Of course, maybe he's wrong in his assessment. I take it the position is largely the long ball routes Davis does well with minus the short and mid-range routes that WR2 also incorporates. 

So Davis goes back to being a rotational player, at best?  That essentially goes against everything Beane has said and other players, about Davis.  

 

I'd be shocked if this happens

[Cheektowaga Chad]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Imagine Philly.

 

 

Philly would have a crazy offense 

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

So Davis goes back to being a rotational player, at best?  That essentially goes against everything Beane has said and other players, about Davis.  

 

I'd be shocked if this happens

If Beane is playing it straight with his rhetoric, I think he overvalues Davis. He should definitely go get Hopkins if he can do it.

Edited May 26, 2023 by Dr. Who

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

You seem to enjoy linking him to other teams. I'll imagine him in Buffalo where he would make a dangerous offense nearly impossible to defend.

I don’t believe Beane has it in him. 

[ndirish1978]

5 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

So Davis goes back to being a rotational player, at best?  That essentially goes against everything Beane has said and other players, about Davis.  

 

I'd be shocked if this happens

 

Davis was given a chance to be a #2 last year and did not succeed. He is a rotational player.

[Dr. Who]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don’t believe Beane has it in him. 

The opportunity is there, so I hope it happens. Guess we'll see.

[ndirish1978]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don’t believe Beane has it in him. 

 

This is were my head is it with this too unfortunately. We could and should make this move if possible.

[Franco_92]

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Yea but this would relegate Devonte Smith to the bench………

2023 Devonta Smith > 2023 Hopkins

 

Philly shouldn't waste their money, they have 3 elite passing targets 

[HappyDays]

26 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

People keep saying WR3....what does that mean to you specifically?

 

Davis would become what the Bills call WR4. Right now that is supposed to be Harty's role but Davis has been more consistent than Harty. WR4 in the Bills offense is the primary backup/rotational outside WR who also plays some in the slot. Davis was excellent in that role in 2020 and 2021. He is at his best when defenses aren't paying close attention to him because they have too many other weapons to worry about. He had a number of deep catches on blown coverages in 2020 and it's easier to make some of the contested catches he made that year when he's matched up against the 3rd CB on the opponent's depth chart.

 

Edited May 26, 2023 by HappyDays

[Ray Finkel]

I remember when the Bills went and added James Lofton to their roster at the age of 35.  He gave us 3 solid years and made us a Super Bowl contender.  

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Davis was given a chance to be a #2 last year and did not succeed. He is a rotational player.

Glad Beane doesn't see it your way.

 

We needed improved slot/middle of field targets, and better IOL play.  Check and check, by how Beane attacked FA and draft.

 

An aging Dhop isn't the answer, unless Diggs goes down.  

 

We have 1 all-pro WR, a lot of other weapons: Davis, Knox, Kincaid, Shakir, Harty, Cook/Harris, and just 1 football to go around.  Beane built this right, the NFL salary cap isn't designed to pay 2 all-pro caliber players at WR...some teams struggle to pay 1.

 

Way too many ppl hung up on what Cincy has, this is a child like envy behavior.  Cincy soon won't have that luxury when those rookie deals expire.