cba fan Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) Now reported the deal is for $1.54 billion and Pegs is responsible for the $140 million additional cost from the original of $1.4 billion. so we have cost overrun before one shovel is in the ground yet. lol. Considering the long construction timeframe, the volitivity of steel and supplies prices, some add ons these projects always get, and some inevitable construction cost surprises, you can bet this will approach 2 billion when done. Pegs is responsible for all cost overruns. I was widely criticized for harping on Pegs would end up paying over 50%, however, that is on track as we speak. NY state 600 mill Pegs/NFL 550 mill(250 mill is from NFL program Bills pd into for decades and will pay in for eternity. So is Pegs contribution. Bills actually eventually will pay more into this then they get out of it until next new stadium is built in Buffalo) Erie Co. 250 mill Pegs 50 mill for Highmark demo. cost o-run 140 million Pegs cost. so Pegs is paying $740 mill already. Almost 50% already. Edited April 7, 2023 by cba fan 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 But how will this affect the renderings? 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 🥱 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just wait until they put a dome on it 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, cba fan said: Now reported the deal is for $1.54 billion and Pegs is responsible for the $140 million additional cost from the original of $1.4 billion. so we have cost overrun before one shovel is in the ground yet. lol. Considering the long construction timeframe, the volitivity of steel and supplies prices, some add ons these projects always get, and some inevitable construction cost surprises, you can bet this will approach 2 billion when done. Pegs is responsible for all cost overruns. I was widely criticized for harping on Pegs would end up paying over 50%, however, that is on track as we speak. NY state 600 mill Pegs/NFL 550 mill(250 mill is from NFL program Bills pd into for decades and will pay in for eternity. So is Pegs contribution. Bills actually eventually will pay more into this then they get out of it until next new stadium is built in Buffalo) Erie Co. 250 mill Pegs 50 mill for Highmark demo. cost o-run 140 million Pegs cost. so Pegs is paying $740 mill already. Almost 50% already. You obviously missed the reason for the $140 Million extra cost. - Bigger canopy covering the fans - Enhanced electronics and amenities throughout the stadium to enhance the game day experience for the fans 8 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, Draconator said: You obviously missed the reason for the $140 Million extra cost. - Bigger canopy covering the fans - Enhanced electronics and amenities throughout the stadium to enhance the game day experience for the fans Are we sure it states bigger canopy “covering the fans” because all I saw the other day when this came out was bigger canopy. For all we know that’s covering concessions somewhere, or ticket checkers, or in the walkway on the way in. Which I guess would cover fans, but we don’t know for sure it’s what I’m assuming you mean by overhang inside the stadium. I believe you are right but let’s not assume that’s 100% accurate is all I’m saying. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 We need a smaller visitors locker room with 2 light bulbs. 3 2 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, mrags said: Are we sure it states bigger canopy “covering the fans” because all I saw the other day when this came out was bigger canopy. For all we know that’s covering concessions somewhere, or ticket checkers, or in the walkway on the way in. Which I guess would cover fans, but we don’t know for sure it’s what I’m assuming you mean by overhang inside the stadium. I believe you are right but let’s not assume that’s 100% accurate is all I’m saying. All good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: We need a smaller visitors locker room with 2 light bulbs. While we’re at it let’s make sure all the lighting in the visitor locker room are heat lamps. So that by the time they get outside in the cold they freeze. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 No worries...PSL's will cover it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, HurlyBurly51 said: No worries...PSL's will cover it Yup. Exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: We need a smaller visitors locker room with 2 light bulbs. and sprayers to get them wet right before they step onto the field, from Novemver onward!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HurlyBurly51 said: No worries...PSL's will cover it Ain't that the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Inflation..........no on should be surprised 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, JJGauna said: But how will this affect the renderings? Oh no, this is all JUST for the renderings. The stadium will be extra! Are they responsible for ALL cost overruns, or just after construction begins. I don’t know the details, but I’m pretty sure the overruns will be significant coin. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Inflation..........no on should be surprised a true indicator of a strong economy. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, boyst said: Just wait until they put a dome on it That'll be 2029. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Roof? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Are they really doing a bigger canopy? Just put the roof on it at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Open the beer concession stands 15 minutes earlier, we could pay for this in one week 1 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Inflation..........no on should be surprised Absolutely, as an electrical contractor jobs going higher than expected when it's a long term project is the new norm. Hope all the contractors priced everything to account for inflation, most contracts tell you to now as they won't pay the difference at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: No worries...PSL's will cover it Yeah they just went up 5K a seat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Open the beer concession stands 15 minutes earlier, we could pay for this in one week Keep them open in the 4th qtr next season and the stadium will be all but paid for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I think the additional costs were for Canisius BB to play there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Wiz said: Keep them open in the 4th qtr next season and the stadium will be all but paid for. PLUS, the county will get all THEIR money back from DUI fines! Win/win! And it will feed the lawyers! What’s to hate here? . . Edited April 8, 2023 by Augie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, JJGauna said: But how will this affect the renderings? That's what the extra $140M is for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Makes sense given the new renderings that were released which I've attached below. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Makes sense given the new renderings that were released which I've attached below. Just slap a coat of paint on that and call it good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, mrags said: Are we sure it states bigger canopy “covering the fans” because all I saw the other day when this came out was bigger canopy. For all we know that’s covering concessions somewhere, or ticket checkers, or in the walkway on the way in. Which I guess would cover fans, but we don’t know for sure it’s what I’m assuming you mean by overhang inside the stadium. I believe you are right but let’s not assume that’s 100% accurate is all I’m saying. Go look at the drawings and see if you can comprehend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, cba fan said: Now reported the deal is for $1.54 billion and Pegs is responsible for the $140 million additional cost from the original of $1.4 billion. so we have cost overrun before one shovel is in the ground yet. lol. Considering the long construction timeframe, the volitivity of steel and supplies prices, some add ons these projects always get, and some inevitable construction cost surprises, you can bet this will approach 2 billion when done. Pegs is responsible for all cost overruns. I was widely criticized for harping on Pegs would end up paying over 50%, however, that is on track as we speak. NY state 600 mill Pegs/NFL 550 mill(250 mill is from NFL program Bills pd into for decades and will pay in for eternity. So is Pegs contribution. Bills actually eventually will pay more into this then they get out of it until next new stadium is built in Buffalo) Erie Co. 250 mill Pegs 50 mill for Highmark demo. cost o-run 140 million Pegs cost. so Pegs is paying $740 mill already. Almost 50% already. Gotta love new York state 46 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Inflation..........no on should be surprised "Inflation" More like some crooks in smallbany needed their pockets lined 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Dome now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 48 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Inflation..........no on should be surprised Shocker, a govt sponsored product has higher actual costs. That never happens. (Insert sarcasm here) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, HOUSE said: We need a smaller visitors locker room with 2 light bulbs. angle the stadium properly so just the visiting side gets the most snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 It's going to keep going up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: We need a smaller visitors locker room with 2 light bulbs. How about hybrid toilet/showers and wash basins/urinals as well? 1 hour ago, Southern_Bills said: Absolutely, as an electrical contractor jobs going higher than expected when it's a long term project is the new norm. Hope all the contractors priced everything to account for inflation, most contracts tell you to now as they won't pay the difference at the end. Yes, that is known as a rise and fall clause - although it never falls in my experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Jeez. A 10 percent increase in construction costs. I say let the team move to Toronto because Bills fans won't put up with such fiscal legerdemain! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Augie said: PLUS, the county will get all THIER money back from DUI fines! Win/win! And it will feed the lawyers! What’s to hate here? . And the ones that aren't caught will be supporting the local food industry from buying a dozen tacos meal from taco bell per person! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: And the ones that aren't caught will be supporting the local food industry from buying a dozen tacos meal from taco bell per person! I’ve got to believe that is very good for the plumbers out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Maybe they can Airbnb to make up the costs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, cba fan said: Now reported the deal is for $1.54 billion and Pegs is responsible for the $140 million additional cost from the original of $1.4 billion. so we have cost overrun before one shovel is in the ground yet. lol. Considering the long construction timeframe, the volitivity of steel and supplies prices, some add ons these projects always get, and some inevitable construction cost surprises, you can bet this will approach 2 billion when done. Pegs is responsible for all cost overruns. I was widely criticized for harping on Pegs would end up paying over 50%, however, that is on track as we speak. NY state 600 mill Pegs/NFL 550 mill(250 mill is from NFL program Bills pd into for decades and will pay in for eternity. So is Pegs contribution. Bills actually eventually will pay more into this then they get out of it until next new stadium is built in Buffalo) Erie Co. 250 mill Pegs 50 mill for Highmark demo. cost o-run 140 million Pegs cost. so Pegs is paying $740 mill already. Almost 50% already. Is your laptop autocorrecting PSLs into "Pegs"? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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