msw2112 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I have no issue with signing an experienced veteran OL to a free agent contract to compete for a backup spot. If he is the LAST addition to the OL that they make, then, yes, I'll be disappointed. We're only 1 week into free agency and the draft hasn't taken place yet. The sky is not falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Id rather have Kyle van Norway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I expected us to resign Q Can be both the guard on the tackle positions As a back up, you can do worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This is McDermott’s team 100%. He has given Beane more and more power every year but it’s McDermott running the show. Well if he doesn't realize the offense needs more help than the defense, he's gonna have a hard time winning the big one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He will be the 3rd OT and he will be very cheap. Funny how we now hate last years preseason roster that was Super Bowl favorites. What changed? Nothing is changed, except in the fans minds We were projected to win the Super Bowl last year and didn’t and they can’t get off it It’s still a very good roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Don't care what you believe, man. i wanted to see how he'd perform, and he did. Unlike lil' Ed. agreed Oliver stinks. Re drafted and he’s a 4th rounder at best. 51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This is McDermott’s team 100%. He has given Beane more and more power every year but it’s McDermott running the show. You dang right it is. Brandon Beane is the money man. That’s it. McClappy is obsessed with defense. A lousy one at that. Stats very very deceiving. Horrible division past 3 years with horrible quarterbacking skewed it along with his record being propped up by Allen. How he repays Josh Allen? Let’s sign some backup special teamers to prep the fanbase for defense in rounds 1 and 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Swing OT. Still draft an OT Good bye Doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 i only remember him trying to play injured last season on a positive note, after the 2021 season with ten....analytics pff said he was elite in the run game....5th best OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Can Spencer Brown play Guard? There are going to be some good OTs at 27 - ones that play LT can RT and be a legit backup to Dawkins if they have to swing from RT to LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) I'm really beginning to question Beane's ability to judge OL talent. Josh Allen needs that extra tic to make his reads and deliver the ball. When he has it, he is almost unstoppable. When he doesn't have it, he can be an awful turnover machine. Quessenberry was a liability. I hope he's back to compete for depth only. Edited March 21, 2023 by turftoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Logic said: Good re-signing. A capable swing tackle. Multiple posters will no doubt flock to this post, complaining that the Bills didn't do better. In truth, how much did anyone really expect a cap-strapped team that is forced to work the fringes of free agency to spend on a third tackle? And yes, this likely means they're committed to giving Spencer Brown the chance to lock down the RT spot for good this season, but anyone who listened to Beane's recent presser already knew that. I am really sickened by your post. Big mistake just committing to Spencer Brown. We can only hope they can coach the kid up. Because he has sucked. And is usually injured. I don't know what to say about Quissenberry. He plays like he is stuck in quicksand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He will be the 3rd OT and he will be very cheap. Funny how we now hate last years preseason roster that was Super Bowl favorites. What changed? He will not. They will draft an OT to push Brown and or replace Dawkins next year. Everything changed. They struggled all year despite the stats and got blown out at home in the playoffs. What hasn't changed is the HC. 4 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: I am really sickened by your post. Big mistake just committing to Spencer Brown. We can only hope they can coach the kid up. Because he has sucked. And is usually injured. I don't know what to say about Quissenberry. He plays like he is stuck in quicksand. Who said they were committed to him starting? They are committed to giving him a chance. Its not as if he hasn't had some good moments. They will draft another OT to replace Brown this year or Dawkins next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Can backup 4 positions, I like Q-Berry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: This thread will be two tons of fun. Almost as much fun as we'll have when the BIlls resign Bobby Hart. Wouldn't be a bad thing. Hart would be cheap and he was very good when they had packages that required an extra blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Why are Bills fans so down on the team? I’m not understanding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why are Bills fans so down on the team? I’m not understanding. Because we clearly were not good enough last year. And so far none of the moves make us better. They have been moves that fill out the roster, but not take it up a notch. The McG at G move is the only upgrade thus far. I care less about RB but we need another threat to go along with Diggs and a RT. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Nothing is changed, except in the fans minds We were projected to win the Super Bowl last year and didn’t and they can’t get off it It’s still a very good roster Key players are a year older, and coming off of major injuries, Miller, Hyde . And Tre White did not perform at expected levels. Due to these 3 players, the roster is no where near as solid as the roster before the 2022 season started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, ngbills said: Because we clearly were not good enough last year. And so far none of the moves make us better. They have been moves that fill out the roster, but not take it up a notch. The McG at G move is the only upgrade thus far. I care less about RB but we need another threat to go along with Diggs and a RT. Each season is a new season Last year’s team was ravished with injuries Still finished 13 and three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, BarleyNY said: I think Q’s signing means no OT in FA to challenge Brown. That’s the disappointing thing because I think Q is a good depth piece. Maybe we get an OT in the draft somewhere. What FA tackles are out there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: What FA tackles are out there ? Still haven’t addressed the middle linebacker position, so that’s probably going to be a priority in the draft But still, I looked for them to draft competition for brown very high as they should that’s where we should be getting our lineman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Oh boy 👦 https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/21/ny-jets-bills-sign-lineman/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He will not. They will draft an OT to push Brown and or replace Dawkins next year. Everything changed. They struggled all year despite the stats and got blown out at home in the playoffs. What hasn't changed is the HC. Who said they were committed to him starting? They are committed to giving him a chance. Its not as if he hasn't had some good moments. They will draft another OT to replace Brown this year or Dawkins next. Few and far between. Like the 5 penalty game against maybe the Falcons or Panthers in 2021? LOL And Dawkins got the 3 holding penalties in one game also. Is Jason Peters still upright? I hope to God you are correct that they draft a big time OT this year. I can not remember the last one we even had.. Maybe Cordy Glenn, when he was not injured. John Fina? Will Woolford and Howard Ballard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: What FA tackles are out there ? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/tackle/available/ The pool of OTs is drying up, but there are still a few decent options out there. I wasn’t looking for a world beater, just a guy who could push Brown and be a quality swing tackle at minimum. A solid vet or a developing player with upside would’ve been what I was looking for. Again, this speaks more to me wanting legit competition for Brown. Ques is a good backup option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Sad to think that he's a backup to this Edited March 21, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Oh boy 👦 https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/21/ny-jets-bills-sign-lineman/ Imagine living, so rent free in a rivals head that they have to post something like this 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Oh boy 👦 https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/21/ny-jets-bills-sign-lineman/ Ha! You would think the Jets won something…they are grasping gor straws! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Sad to think that he's a backup to this Josh running for his life with half the D chasing him but avoids two tackle attempts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Josh running for his life with half the D chasing him but avoids two tackle attempts I mean, the line clearly needs to be better. I don’t think anybody is not saying that the Bengals rushing three and still getting to Josh Allen still is in our brains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I mean, the line clearly needs to be better. I don’t think anybody is not saying that the Bengals rushing three and still getting to Josh Allen still is in our brains It should be the main focus for improvement this off season.. Im not sure thats been the case on what we have seen so far, but I'll reserve final judgement until the off season is complete... Beane can surprise so Im hoping he has a move or two left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I, like many others here, have never played a snap of professional football in my life. However, like many others here, does that deter me from providing my expert analysis on David Quessenberry?! It sure doesn't! I must be inclined to agree with the others. This fella...oooh, you don't want him seeing an NFL field. I know stuff! I also know things. Stuff and things together means I'm a GD expert. What a bust! Beane you colossal butt-mongrel, you're doing this to personally irritate me aren't you? I knew it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Call me crazy but maybe if we ran the ball a little more the OL would look a little better in pass pro. If the D knows you do nothing but pass they just key in on the snap and race to the QB. We never give them a reason to do anything else. Quessenberry of all people would also love it if we ran the ball more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Success said: It's only for depth....it's only for depth....it's only for depth.... There's no place like TSW, there's no place like TSW, there's NO PLACE like TSW. 3 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Id rather have Kyle van Norway They need a lot more camp bodies to go with the OL draft pick. You might get your wish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Oh boy 👦 https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/21/ny-jets-bills-sign-lineman/ I didn't need to see that tape. Just reminds me how terrible he is. If you wanna get Josh hurt, he's your guy. 6 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Call me crazy but maybe if we ran the ball a little more the OL would look a little better in pass pro. If the D knows you do nothing but pass they just key in on the snap and race to the QB. We never give them a reason to do anything else. Quessenberry of all people would also love it if we ran the ball more. Earth to Dorsey Earth to Dorsey Come in Dorsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, 1st&ten said: Your probably right. They still have Ryan Van Demark OT from Conn who had a lot of pre draft buzz listed on the roster but apparently didn't show much during camp. They also have Alex Anderson from UCLA who was called up for 1 or 2 games (not sure if he actually played) Seems like I've been waiting forever for a PS lineman to develop & make the team. yes Hoping for a gem , while scrounging in the back yard digging up the rutabagas . Not a knock on Q being on the team. Every team needs depth .. But this is another guy that nearly got Josh killed. So what does it say to Josh ? Run Forrest Run ? JK but really I thought post season the MOST important/critical /game changing thing Bills FO could do was Protect The Franchise Not feeling it today 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I didn't need to see that tape. Just reminds me how terrible he is. If you wanna get Josh hurt, he's your guy. Earth to Dorsey Earth to Dorsey Come in Dorsey Ground control to Major Ken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I've been saying all along that we're going to sign a David Quessenberry level OT, or simply bring back Quessenberry himself, and Draft an OT in the mid rounds. Have a competition between the 3. One would start, one would be a Swing Tackle, and one would replace Tommy Doyle. If you listened to Beane at all, he was never going to outright replace Spencer Brown. He's consistently said he feels him having to have back surgery in the Offseason, not having a Training Camp, and being nicked up throughout the season was the cause of him underperforming. And there may be some merit in that. Beane's covering his bases in the event Brown does become a long term issue. But he was never giving up on him. People who were expecting that were fooling themselves. There was never going to be an Orlando Brown level signing to outright replace him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I've been saying all along that we're going to sign a David Quessenberry level OT, or simply bring back Quessenberry himself, and Draft an OT in the mid rounds. Have a competition between the 3. One would start, one would be a Swing Tackle, and one would replace Tommy Doyle. If you listened to Beane at all, he was never going to outright replace Spencer Brown. He's consistently said he feels him having to have back surgery in the Offseason, not having a Training Camp, and being nicked up throughout the season was the cause of him underperforming. And there may be some merit in that. Beane's covering his bases in the event Brown does become a long term issue. But he was never giving up on him. People who were expecting that were fooling themselves. There was never going to be an Orlando Brown level signing to outright replace him. Well sure. But this is beanes fault/weakness. He marries himself to players. Has to be more cut throat and be objective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, balln said: Well sure. But this is beanes fault/weakness. He marries himself to players. Has to be more cut throat and be objective Maybe if we had the cap space, he would have been. But giving up on a guy they spent a Day 2 pick on, after a promising rookie season, followed by a sophomore season with a heavy asterisk, when you can't afford to in the first place doesn't make sense. Lots of fans looked at the situation we were in and said "I don't care, figure it out". And he did. He found 43.5 to get out from under 18.5. But we still had 24 bodies to re-sign or replace with that money. Expensive splashes weren't in the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 This guy is great depth, sneaky good signing by Beane. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: Maybe if we had the cap space, he would have been. But giving up on a guy they spent a Day 2 pick on, after a promising rookie season, followed by a sophomore season with a heavy asterisk, when you can't afford to in the first place doesn't make sense. Lots of fans looked at the situation we were in and said "I don't care, figure it out". And he did. He found 43.5 to get out from under 18.5. But we still had 24 bodies to re-sign or replace with that money. Expensive splashes weren't in the cards. Oh yea I think he’s done a solid job this off-season. But forced to. i don’t really care about q signing. if he / the bills come upon a sure fire tackle prospect and it’s the best value - I want him drafted. Don’t count on Spencer brown is my point bc beane thinks he found a diamond in the rough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I've been saying all along that we're going to sign a David Quessenberry level OT, or simply bring back Quessenberry himself, and Draft an OT in the mid rounds. Have a competition between the 3. One would start, one would be a Swing Tackle, and one would replace Tommy Doyle. If you listened to Beane at all, he was never going to outright replace Spencer Brown. He's consistently said he feels him having to have back surgery in the Offseason, not having a Training Camp, and being nicked up throughout the season was the cause of him underperforming. And there may be some merit in that. Beane's covering his bases in the event Brown does become a long term issue. But he was never giving up on him. People who were expecting that were fooling themselves. There was never going to be an Orlando Brown level signing to outright replace him. I hope you are not proud of being correct on this matter ? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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