Per Daily News: Giants Eyeing Beasley as FA Target and May Trade for Gabe Davis

[nedboy7]

we just need 2 rookie WRs, 3 rookie OL, and a rookie RB.  Than add a rookie MLB and FS.  Then SuperBowl baby! 

[NewEra]

24 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

He absolutely did, in 3 specific games. 

I think the game in which he showed the most “#1 ability” was the Colts playoff game.

 

I don’t think I view “shown #1 ability” in the same way that some of you guys do.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think the game in which he showed the most “#1 ability” was the Colts playoff game.

 

I don’t think I view “shown #1 ability” in the same way that some of you guys do.  

That was one, clutch plays contested catches.
 

But if you don’t think the 171 and 201 yd games combining for 6 touchdowns fit here, then yeah- you want something different from your top wr then the yards and TDs thing I like. 

[NewEra]

Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

That was one, clutch plays contested catches.
 

But if you don’t think the 171 and 201 yd games combining for 6 touchdowns fit here, then yeah- you want something different from your top wr then the yards and TDs thing I like. 

I feel that showing #1 ability is more than catching passes and accumulating stats.  

[par73]

Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole.

[PauleeeWalnuts]

42 minutes ago, wppete said:

no way. How about Davis and McKenzie for Saquan Barkley? I’ll take that. 

Barkley is tagged, can they trade for him without being required to give up the two #1 picks to the Giants? Or is that only if an team offers more and signs him away? And who are their replacements at WR? (Even though they have stone hands) 

3 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Trying to get the band back together in the Big Apple?

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-joe-schoen-wide-receivers-20230310-sf6fw3mnizhznf2sgl23jbsfpu-story.html

Maybe Daboll thinks he can’t get to the mountain top with those Bills players since they can’t in WNY. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I feel that showing #1 ability is more than catching passes and accumulating stats.  

End zone celebrations?

[LABILLBACKER]

If someone is dumb enough to give me a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Gabe, do it immediately. 

21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

That was one, clutch plays contested catches.
 

But if you don’t think the 171 and 201 yd games combining for 6 touchdowns fit here, then yeah- you want something different from your top wr then the yards and TDs thing I like. 

2 games hardly screams consistency. And his catch rate validates that.  

[somnus00]

22 minutes ago, par73 said:

Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole.

You draft Marvin Mims, and Jonathan Mingo. I love both guys and they both bring something different at the WR position. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

18 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

If someone is dumb enough to give me a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Gabe, do it immediately. 

2 games hardly screams consistency. And his catch rate validates that.  

How’d you get consistency out of he had exactly 3 really good games?? 🙄

 

You may not be aware, but he’s actually played in over 50, if you count the playoffs. That was inferred but apologetically not spelled out. 

 

also quite positive nobody is dumb enough to give you picks for Gabe. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Davis + McKenzie for a 2nd 

 

and a 5th

 

 

[mushypeaches]

We're not trading a productive starting WR on a rookie contract for draft picks in a year where we're trying to make it to the Super Bowl.

 

I don't care how much the fan base wants to hate on Gabe Davis or think that he should be a 1000 yard guy on a team with a clear #1

Do we need to improve the position as a whole?  Absolutely

 

But not at the expense of a cheap and viable starter when we need as many of those as we can get these days

[Sherlock Holmes]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

I'd trade Davis for a 1st.

And Sills V

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’d trade him for a 3rd. 
 

edit: he’s a 1 year rental at this point.  I don’t think he’s worth the money he’ll command.  He’s like a lesser Alvin Harper.  

 

I'd trade him for Hodgins!

 

(just kidding)

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:

we just need 2 rookie WRs, 3 rookie OL, and a rookie RB.  Than add a rookie MLB and FS.  Then SuperBowl baby! 

When you combine those rookies with our super deep dline rotation, no one will be able to stop us. 

[Rigotz]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

The author said that Davis has shown “#1 ability”….. lol.  And he gets paid to write 

Is anybody mad about this? I’m have nooo problem with journalists propping up his perceived value.

4 hours ago, Steptide said:

Not ready to give up on Davis just yet. Needs another year imo

Ok, so best case scenario he has one good season, then what?

 

If you trade him for a draft pick you might get similar production AND actually have a future.

[Nextmanup]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

I'd trade Davis for a 1st.

Me too!  The problem is the Giants wouldn't!

 

 

 

[Einstein's Dog]

2 hours ago, par73 said:

Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole.

You replace Davis with D Hopkins/M Evans, maybe B Cooks.  Looking for more of an upgrade than a replacement. 

 

Move on from Beas + McKenzie and give Shakir more playing time.

[KingBoots8]

2 hours ago, par73 said:

Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole.

Not that I’m advocating for moving on Davis, but if you’re going to do it use the 2nd on Hopkins. That’s about all I can suggest.

[london_bills]

Gabe Davis is nowhere near the problem people are making out. Great chemistry with josh. We just need another early round WR and players on that side of the ball. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

we just need 2 rookie WRs, 3 rookie OL, and a rookie RB.  Than add a rookie MLB and FS.  Then SuperBowl baby! 

What is this, 'Muppet Babies'?! 🤔🤨😁

[Gunsgoodtime]

4 hours ago, Draconator said:

Gabe for Saquan straight up. 

What's your Madden tag name?

[Draconator]

3 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

What's your Madden tag name?

Tommy Dreamer

[Gunsgoodtime]

3 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

He has in a playoff game.  The word "shown" is past tense.

 

No reason to move on with him yet.  Last year during offseason he worked on getting into best shape which he did.  This offseason he needs to find a mentor and work on other football skills.

They should probably start with catching a football

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, DCofNC said:

send them the whole gang, they can take Diggs too for their entire draft.

Are you trying to sabotage this team?

[TBBills Fan]

Personally I think Gabe should hire EJ Manuel to throw to him every day this off season.  By next year he will be an expert at making catches on balls thrown off target.  Then he will be legit

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, london_bills said:

Gabe Davis is nowhere near the problem people are making out. Great chemistry with josh. We just need another early round WR and players on that side of the ball. 

 

 

So he's nowhere near "not an excellent WR2"?

 

The standard for WR2 on elite teams is much different.

 

The second receiving option on the final 4 teams was Tee Higgins, Devonta Smith, Brandon Aiyuk and Juju Smith Shuster.    

 

And before anyone tries to claim Juju isn't a better receiver than Gabe......let me know when Gabe has his 1400+ yard receiving season and gets to 70% completion rate for his career.  

 

Gabe is a near ideal WR3..........a cheap big play threat.........like a slower Marquez Valdes Scantling..........but as a WR2 that will leave a contender wanting for a lot more. 

 

So he is every bit "the problem" that most people are making him out to be.   He's simply not good enough to be the second option on a team that expects to win a SB in the current NFL.

[BBFL]

With Gabe in the final year of his contract and set to be FA, if indeed he seems to be at his absolute best for this Bills by the FO then surely the best value he’s going to have in a trade is now. Have to believe his production can be replicated by a FA acquisition or a draft prospect. 
 

Think Gabe can definitely do better but the question becomes financial numbers for next year if he does ascend into the production that we all had envisioned going into this season… Maybe a trade is the best thing for both parties. Gabe will produce on the Giants which will lead to a contract they can likely offer. 

 

If Chase Claypool warranted a 2nd rounder then Gabe is at absolute worst a 3rd round pick. 
 

Extend now or trade?

Edited March 11, 2023 by BBFL

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

7 hours ago, NewEra said:

The author said that Davis has shown “#1 ability”….. lol.  And he gets paid to write 

He did for one game at least..

[london_bills]

9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So he's nowhere near "not an excellent WR2"?

 

The standard for WR2 on elite teams is much different.

 

The second receiving option on the final 4 teams was Tee Higgins, Devonta Smith, Brandon Aiyuk and Juju Smith Shuster.    

 

And before anyone tries to claim Juju isn't a better receiver than Gabe......let me know when Gabe has his 1400+ yard receiving season and gets to 70% completion rate for his career.  

 

Gabe is a near ideal WR3..........a cheap big play threat.........like a slower Marquez Valdes Scantling..........but as a WR2 that will leave a contender wanting for a lot more. 

 

So he is every bit "the problem" that most people are making him out to be.   He's simply not good enough to be the second option on a team that expects to win a SB in the current NFL.

That's what I said, draft a WR round 1. For a 4th round pick Gabe Davis has been great. 

[BADOLBILZ]

Just now, london_bills said:

That's what I said, draft a WR round 1. For a 4th round pick Gabe Davis has been great. 

 

 

Well then you've completely misunderstood the issue with Gabe Davis then.    You don't get a handicapped yards and touchdowns in the NFL because your skill players weren't highly drafted.   They put too much faith in Davis and got burned.   

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

What's your Madden tag name?

If anyone on here wants to get smoked in madden.  I'm on Xbox 1. 

Almost bought the updated Xbox but I only game 5 hours a week and only play Madden, UFC, Cod (only with friends) and Rocket League

[1ManRaid]

7 hours ago, NewEra said:

The author said that Davis has shown “#1 ability”….. lol.  And he gets paid to write 

 

He did.

 

For one game, he was a #1A++ WR.  That game had people everywhere, including this board, hyping him up as a future #1 WR.

[BBFL]

2 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

He did.

 

For one game, he was a #1A++ WR.  That game had people everywhere, including this board, hyping him up as a future #1 WR.

And what a game it was!

Let’s say he does end up getting traded or not making a second contract… what would someone have offered after that game?!

 

20/20… 😔

[1ManRaid]

2 minutes ago, BBFL said:

And what a game it was!

Let’s say he does end up getting traded or not making a second contract… what would someone have offered after that game?!

 

20/20… 😔

 

It's an impossible proposition though.  We needed a good #2, which he was absolutely projecting to be.  Keeping him may look like a weaker decision in hindsight, but at the time keeping him was objectively the right move especially with him on a rookie contract.

[John from Riverside]

In my eyes, Gabe Davis is a very, very, very good number three
 

He has not shown that he is a good number two yet

[BBFL]

3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

It's an impossible proposition though.  We needed a good #2, which he was absolutely projecting to be.  Keeping him may look like a weaker decision in hindsight, but at the time keeping him was objectively the right move especially with him on a rookie contract.

Can’t disagree. It was the right move. I still think he can become the receiver we all projected after that game. Logically it’s going to be tough to see him doing that here long term on team friendly financials.
 

He is absolutely a starter in the league, a reasonable if not solid #2, I just feel if you can get some value in a deal that brings in another rookie wage on the books it may work out better long term. He’s going to get a reasonable contract, especially if he repeats last (“underwhelming”) season numbers. 
 

The bigger question that determines how valuable he is going into this season is what production will you get if you ballpark 100 targets to Shakir, Knox or any other FA / prize rookie you draft….? Do you walk away with 50/850/6+ at a minimum?

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Are you trying to sabotage this team?

Nah, if Diggs really wants out and you could pull off a massive trade like that, I’d take it.

[BobbyC81]

8 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Get Davis out if you can. We already have one receiver with suspect hands in Knox. Can’t have two lining up at the same time 

I don’t understand why a professional wide receiver has difficulty catching the ball.  That’s like a surgeon who loses half of his patients in the operating room.   A taxi or bus driver that can’t drive.  An accountant that is bad at math.  …

[BBFL]

7 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

I don’t understand why a professional wide receiver has difficulty catching the ball.  That’s like a surgeon who loses half of his patients in the operating room.   A taxi or bus driver that can’t drive.  An accountant that is bad at math.  …

So you’re saying Gabe, during the offseason, cannot be a freelance surgeon who moonlights as a Lyft or Uber driver whilst doing his own taxes at the end of each fiscal year???

🤔

Edited March 11, 2023 by BBFL