nedboy7 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 we just need 2 rookie WRs, 3 rookie OL, and a rookie RB. Than add a rookie MLB and FS. Then SuperBowl baby! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He absolutely did, in 3 specific games. I think the game in which he showed the most “#1 ability” was the Colts playoff game. I don’t think I view “shown #1 ability” in the same way that some of you guys do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think the game in which he showed the most “#1 ability” was the Colts playoff game. I don’t think I view “shown #1 ability” in the same way that some of you guys do. That was one, clutch plays contested catches. But if you don’t think the 171 and 201 yd games combining for 6 touchdowns fit here, then yeah- you want something different from your top wr then the yards and TDs thing I like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That was one, clutch plays contested catches. But if you don’t think the 171 and 201 yd games combining for 6 touchdowns fit here, then yeah- you want something different from your top wr then the yards and TDs thing I like. I feel that showing #1 ability is more than catching passes and accumulating stats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, wppete said: no way. How about Davis and McKenzie for Saquan Barkley? I’ll take that. Barkley is tagged, can they trade for him without being required to give up the two #1 picks to the Giants? Or is that only if an team offers more and signs him away? And who are their replacements at WR? (Even though they have stone hands) 3 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Trying to get the band back together in the Big Apple? https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-joe-schoen-wide-receivers-20230310-sf6fw3mnizhznf2sgl23jbsfpu-story.html Maybe Daboll thinks he can’t get to the mountain top with those Bills players since they can’t in WNY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: I feel that showing #1 ability is more than catching passes and accumulating stats. End zone celebrations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 If someone is dumb enough to give me a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Gabe, do it immediately. 21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That was one, clutch plays contested catches. But if you don’t think the 171 and 201 yd games combining for 6 touchdowns fit here, then yeah- you want something different from your top wr then the yards and TDs thing I like. 2 games hardly screams consistency. And his catch rate validates that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, par73 said: Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole. You draft Marvin Mims, and Jonathan Mingo. I love both guys and they both bring something different at the WR position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: If someone is dumb enough to give me a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Gabe, do it immediately. 2 games hardly screams consistency. And his catch rate validates that. How’d you get consistency out of he had exactly 3 really good games?? 🙄 You may not be aware, but he’s actually played in over 50, if you count the playoffs. That was inferred but apologetically not spelled out. also quite positive nobody is dumb enough to give you picks for Gabe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Davis + McKenzie for a 2nd and a 5th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 We're not trading a productive starting WR on a rookie contract for draft picks in a year where we're trying to make it to the Super Bowl. I don't care how much the fan base wants to hate on Gabe Davis or think that he should be a 1000 yard guy on a team with a clear #1 Do we need to improve the position as a whole? Absolutely But not at the expense of a cheap and viable starter when we need as many of those as we can get these days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Doc said: I'd trade Davis for a 1st. And Sills V 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, NewEra said: I’d trade him for a 3rd. edit: he’s a 1 year rental at this point. I don’t think he’s worth the money he’ll command. He’s like a lesser Alvin Harper. I'd trade him for Hodgins! (just kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: we just need 2 rookie WRs, 3 rookie OL, and a rookie RB. Than add a rookie MLB and FS. Then SuperBowl baby! When you combine those rookies with our super deep dline rotation, no one will be able to stop us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, NewEra said: The author said that Davis has shown “#1 ability”….. lol. And he gets paid to write Is anybody mad about this? I’m have nooo problem with journalists propping up his perceived value. 4 hours ago, Steptide said: Not ready to give up on Davis just yet. Needs another year imo Ok, so best case scenario he has one good season, then what? If you trade him for a draft pick you might get similar production AND actually have a future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Doc said: I'd trade Davis for a 1st. Me too! The problem is the Giants wouldn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, par73 said: Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole. You replace Davis with D Hopkins/M Evans, maybe B Cooks. Looking for more of an upgrade than a replacement. Move on from Beas + McKenzie and give Shakir more playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, par73 said: Davis has not shown he is a #2, but if you deal him (I would take a 2nd round pick), who do you replace him with? WR is a current need, and that would open another hole. Not that I’m advocating for moving on Davis, but if you’re going to do it use the 2nd on Hopkins. That’s about all I can suggest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Gabe Davis is nowhere near the problem people are making out. Great chemistry with josh. We just need another early round WR and players on that side of the ball. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: we just need 2 rookie WRs, 3 rookie OL, and a rookie RB. Than add a rookie MLB and FS. Then SuperBowl baby! What is this, 'Muppet Babies'?! 🤔🤨😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Draconator said: Gabe for Saquan straight up. What's your Madden tag name? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: What's your Madden tag name? Tommy Dreamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: He has in a playoff game. The word "shown" is past tense. No reason to move on with him yet. Last year during offseason he worked on getting into best shape which he did. This offseason he needs to find a mentor and work on other football skills. They should probably start with catching a football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 hours ago, DCofNC said: send them the whole gang, they can take Diggs too for their entire draft. Are you trying to sabotage this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Personally I think Gabe should hire EJ Manuel to throw to him every day this off season. By next year he will be an expert at making catches on balls thrown off target. Then he will be legit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, london_bills said: Gabe Davis is nowhere near the problem people are making out. Great chemistry with josh. We just need another early round WR and players on that side of the ball. So he's nowhere near "not an excellent WR2"? The standard for WR2 on elite teams is much different. The second receiving option on the final 4 teams was Tee Higgins, Devonta Smith, Brandon Aiyuk and Juju Smith Shuster. And before anyone tries to claim Juju isn't a better receiver than Gabe......let me know when Gabe has his 1400+ yard receiving season and gets to 70% completion rate for his career. Gabe is a near ideal WR3..........a cheap big play threat.........like a slower Marquez Valdes Scantling..........but as a WR2 that will leave a contender wanting for a lot more. So he is every bit "the problem" that most people are making him out to be. He's simply not good enough to be the second option on a team that expects to win a SB in the current NFL. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) With Gabe in the final year of his contract and set to be FA, if indeed he seems to be at his absolute best for this Bills by the FO then surely the best value he’s going to have in a trade is now. Have to believe his production can be replicated by a FA acquisition or a draft prospect. Think Gabe can definitely do better but the question becomes financial numbers for next year if he does ascend into the production that we all had envisioned going into this season… Maybe a trade is the best thing for both parties. Gabe will produce on the Giants which will lead to a contract they can likely offer. If Chase Claypool warranted a 2nd rounder then Gabe is at absolute worst a 3rd round pick. Extend now or trade? Edited March 11, 2023 by BBFL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, NewEra said: The author said that Davis has shown “#1 ability”….. lol. And he gets paid to write He did for one game at least.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: So he's nowhere near "not an excellent WR2"? The standard for WR2 on elite teams is much different. The second receiving option on the final 4 teams was Tee Higgins, Devonta Smith, Brandon Aiyuk and Juju Smith Shuster. And before anyone tries to claim Juju isn't a better receiver than Gabe......let me know when Gabe has his 1400+ yard receiving season and gets to 70% completion rate for his career. Gabe is a near ideal WR3..........a cheap big play threat.........like a slower Marquez Valdes Scantling..........but as a WR2 that will leave a contender wanting for a lot more. So he is every bit "the problem" that most people are making him out to be. He's simply not good enough to be the second option on a team that expects to win a SB in the current NFL. That's what I said, draft a WR round 1. For a 4th round pick Gabe Davis has been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, london_bills said: That's what I said, draft a WR round 1. For a 4th round pick Gabe Davis has been great. Well then you've completely misunderstood the issue with Gabe Davis then. You don't get a handicapped yards and touchdowns in the NFL because your skill players weren't highly drafted. They put too much faith in Davis and got burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: What's your Madden tag name? If anyone on here wants to get smoked in madden. I'm on Xbox 1. Almost bought the updated Xbox but I only game 5 hours a week and only play Madden, UFC, Cod (only with friends) and Rocket League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, NewEra said: The author said that Davis has shown “#1 ability”….. lol. And he gets paid to write He did. For one game, he was a #1A++ WR. That game had people everywhere, including this board, hyping him up as a future #1 WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: He did. For one game, he was a #1A++ WR. That game had people everywhere, including this board, hyping him up as a future #1 WR. And what a game it was! Let’s say he does end up getting traded or not making a second contract… what would someone have offered after that game?! 20/20… 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, BBFL said: And what a game it was! Let’s say he does end up getting traded or not making a second contract… what would someone have offered after that game?! 20/20… 😔 It's an impossible proposition though. We needed a good #2, which he was absolutely projecting to be. Keeping him may look like a weaker decision in hindsight, but at the time keeping him was objectively the right move especially with him on a rookie contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 In my eyes, Gabe Davis is a very, very, very good number three He has not shown that he is a good number two yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: It's an impossible proposition though. We needed a good #2, which he was absolutely projecting to be. Keeping him may look like a weaker decision in hindsight, but at the time keeping him was objectively the right move especially with him on a rookie contract. Can’t disagree. It was the right move. I still think he can become the receiver we all projected after that game. Logically it’s going to be tough to see him doing that here long term on team friendly financials. He is absolutely a starter in the league, a reasonable if not solid #2, I just feel if you can get some value in a deal that brings in another rookie wage on the books it may work out better long term. He’s going to get a reasonable contract, especially if he repeats last (“underwhelming”) season numbers. The bigger question that determines how valuable he is going into this season is what production will you get if you ballpark 100 targets to Shakir, Knox or any other FA / prize rookie you draft….? Do you walk away with 50/850/6+ at a minimum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Are you trying to sabotage this team? Nah, if Diggs really wants out and you could pull off a massive trade like that, I’d take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Get Davis out if you can. We already have one receiver with suspect hands in Knox. Can’t have two lining up at the same time I don’t understand why a professional wide receiver has difficulty catching the ball. That’s like a surgeon who loses half of his patients in the operating room. A taxi or bus driver that can’t drive. An accountant that is bad at math. … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: I don’t understand why a professional wide receiver has difficulty catching the ball. That’s like a surgeon who loses half of his patients in the operating room. A taxi or bus driver that can’t drive. An accountant that is bad at math. … So you’re saying Gabe, during the offseason, cannot be a freelance surgeon who moonlights as a Lyft or Uber driver whilst doing his own taxes at the end of each fiscal year??? 🤔 Edited March 11, 2023 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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