QCity Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 We can type from our couch, Lee. Did you think we were going to storm the field? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Man, I love the fan reaction! Here is a guy who has spent a dozen years in pro football locker rooms, who is a recognized team leader, who is a close friend of several of the Bills players, and yet, when he gives his opinion, fans here throw it out like it means nothing. Players know when the coaching works and when it doesn't. They know when the season didn't work because, well, it just didn't work this year. They know. And that's what we're hearing from Smith. He's telling us these players - with these coaches - are ready to move forward. He's clearly saying that 2022 was an unusual year, everyone on the team knows it, and they'll be a powerhouse team again in 2023. For me, I think it's quite interesting to hear his perspective. I hear you, but players regularly said good things about Dick Jauron too. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think most NFL coordinators are very good coaches or they wouldn’t get those jobs. However, at that level you have to be elite to stand out because you are facing top coaches too. All that being said, Dorsey will get another year and should too. This was his rookie season as OC. Edited February 15, 2023 by vincec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, JohnNord said: Here’s what he said: “Now we’re bitching about 13-win seasons, so it’s like give me a break,” Smith said on the show. “Watch what Dorsey and Josh do next year together. It’s gonna be scary guys,” Smith said. “I’m just telling y’all, I’m telling y’all right now the Buffalo Bills are going to be terrifying next year with the rejuvenation and the healing that hopefully takes place this offseason. Actually, no one's bitching about 13-win seasons, we're bitching about getting our asses handed to us in the playoffs and having our #1 (or #2 whatever) ranked defense play like it was the 30th-ranked defense, and a team overall that appears to have almost no direction from the sidelines once the most important games start. Frankly, it may not matter what Josh (and Dorsey) do, because when we regularly give up 30-some points per-game in the playoffs, it renders it ridiculously unlikely that we'd win 3 (possibly 4) straight playoff games to find our way to a championship. Then of course there are two sets of fans seemingly, those perfectly satisfied with 13-win seasons and entertaining football throughout the season, accompanied by an early departure from the playoffs; and those that have been there, done that, and will only be satisfied with a Super Bowl win and NFL Championship. Edited February 15, 2023 by PBF81 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Ill stay on my couch and save him a spot right next to me because that guy has been a waste of a roster spot his entire career. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Warcodered said: For a first year OC he really wasn't terrible, giving the guy another year to improve isn't that ridiculous. Depends on how you see things. How many times did Cook and Hines catch the ball? Was there a rhythm to the offense? Did one play set up the next play? Or did it seem like every play was somewhat independent? Did they have troubles in the red zone? Did you see the Cinci playoff game? I'd agrue he wasn't very good. If we are measuring someone from a terrible standard then I guess your statement is right. I'd argue the Bills won mostly because of Allen not Dorsey or his play calling. He was learning on the job. Dorsey absolutely contributed to the Bills disappointing season. 13 wins is great but it's not really about that. The Bills will likely win lots of regular season games with Allen. At this point, it's about winning playoff games and going to the Super Bowl. It's about winning it all. Fans shouldn't settle for anything less when you supposedly have a top 5 QB. Edited February 15, 2023 by newcam2012 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 21 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Man, I love the fan reaction! Here is a guy who has spent a dozen years in pro football locker rooms, who is a recognized team leader, who is a close friend of several of the Bills players, and yet, when he gives his opinion, fans here throw it out like it means nothing. Players know when the coaching works and when it doesn't. They know when the season didn't work because, well, it just didn't work this year. They know. And that's what we're hearing from Smith. He's telling us these players - with these coaches - are ready to move forward. He's clearly saying that 2022 was an unusual year, everyone on the team knows it, and they'll be a powerhouse team again in 2023. For me, I think it's quite interesting to hear his perspective. He's insulting the fans that supported his mediocre talent on the team they love. "Stay on your couch"?? That's the most tone deaf comment he could possibly make. This guy, of any, shouldn't be commenting on the average fan's displeasure with the post season results of this team the past few years. The frustration is warranted. No one on earth solicited this guy's opinion---yet he decided to take the opportunity to publicly call out a very loyal fanbase. He can fade away to a life motel lobby autograph signings, and stop futilely kissing Bills FO ass. "Dabes"? Dorse"? This isn't high school bro-ham. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Lee Smith What a Bills legend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 The only thing I’d like to hear from Smith is if that last play was holding or not, he is the expert. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I listened to the whole thing and zero reason anyone should be offended and I agreed with most of what he said minus the O Line piece (Pro Bowl means sh*t). He was beyond complementary of buffalo and the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Coming from your # 1 WR - does the below sound like the Offense had a good solid plan? STEFON DIGGS: Yeah, I mean, at times, yes. Throughout this year, it was a crazy year, especially for us. I felt like it was a little weird dynamic because the first nine games, we had like a real formula and recipe on how we were winning. And then that last iteration towards the back end, we kind of were just figuring out ways to win, which wasn't bad for us but kind of got us away from what we were consistently doing. So for me, I feel like at times, yeah. And then other times, we kind of got away from it. So we carried that same team in the playoffs, know what I'm saying? So that playing left-handed or figuring out ways to win, it's not necessarily a bad spot, but you're not necessarily back to being who you built to be an identity throughout the season. So we definitely had success, a lot of success. I feel like there was more out there for us because-- especially with that last game and how it ended. We had a lot more football to play, but back to the drawing board, I guess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He's insulting the fans that supported his mediocre talent on the team they love. "Stay on your couch"?? That's the most tone deaf comment he could possibly make. This guy, of any, shouldn't be commenting on the average fan's displeasure with the post season results of this team the past few years. The frustration is warranted. No one on earth solicited this guy's opinion---yet he decided to take the opportunity to publicly call out a very loyal fanbase. He can fade away to a life motel lobby autograph signings, and stop futilely kissing Bills FO ass. "Dabes"? Dorse"? This isn't high school bro-ham. Very well stated. I couldn't agree more. 👍👍👍👍👍 5 hours ago, corta765 said: I listened to the whole thing and zero reason anyone should be offended and I agreed with most of what he said minus the O Line piece (Pro Bowl means sh*t). He was beyond complementary of buffalo and the fans. Just because he's a former player doesn't give him anymore credibility in my eyes. Unless, he had some inside information and input from current players and coaches. I highly doubt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, ngbills said: Coming from your # 1 WR - does the below sound like the Offense had a good solid plan? STEFON DIGGS: Yeah, I mean, at times, yes. Throughout this year, it was a crazy year, especially for us. I felt like it was a little weird dynamic because the first nine games, we had like a real formula and recipe on how we were winning. And then that last iteration towards the back end, we kind of were just figuring out ways to win, which wasn't bad for us but kind of got us away from what we were consistently doing. So for me, I feel like at times, yeah. And then other times, we kind of got away from it. So we carried that same team in the playoffs, know what I'm saying? So that playing left-handed or figuring out ways to win, it's not necessarily a bad spot, but you're not necessarily back to being who you built to be an identity throughout the season. So we definitely had success, a lot of success. I feel like there was more out there for us because-- especially with that last game and how it ended. We had a lot more football to play, but back to the drawing board, I guess. Agree with Diggs. I've stated it repeatedly that the offense had no identity. It was hard to see a complete offensive solid game plan from Dorsey. Often the team ran the ball with success to abandon it later. Happen more often then it should of. Some experts like Sims and Cosell have criticized the offense. Saying the play calling didn't have cohesiveness. Felt like it was single play after single play with no congruent plan. Relying too much on Allen and backyard football. I think Diggs hints at a lot of this. Dorsey is not a strength of the team. He's a work in progress and last year he severely hurt the team. That was very clear in the Miami and Cinci game. The Bills should have gone after a much more experienced OC. (Josh shouldn't be calling the shots) The team was in win now mode. The favorites to win it all. With that in mind, you don't hire a rookie with no experience. He was in over his head. This organization continues to make critical errors. It looks like Dorsey and Fraizer are here to stay another year. I think it's a good bet to say the errors continue. Can anyone have confidence in these two coaches? Listen to Farrell on the radio last night. Sadly, he summed it up pretty well. He was talking to Mike Carver his side kick from Buffalo. Told him he feels bad for him. He wants Buffalo to win to end Carver's pain. Farrell stated the Bills are like the Denver Nuggets. A good team that never wins anything. I couldn't help but not in agreement. Carver high was pretty quiet. Nothing more to say. The truth hurts sometimes. I Edited February 15, 2023 by newcam2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) I hate when players do this us vs. them with their own fanbase. It pisses me off. At least it’s not a current player. Let’s see Lee stand out in the cold and rain cheering every down. The I’ll listen to what he has to say about it. Did he play in the elements, sure, and he was getting paid handsomely to do it. We pay good money for that privilege. I think that should come with being able to have our own opinions about it. Edited February 15, 2023 by Bobby Hooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, corta765 said: I listened to the whole thing and zero reason anyone should be offended and I agreed with most of what he said minus the O Line piece (Pro Bowl means sh*t). He was beyond complementary of buffalo and the fans. let me guess: he led with "no offense, but...."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It does bring up a hypothetically interesting question that we would never know the answer to. What would have happened if Daboll never left and he stayed for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) On 2/14/2023 at 2:24 PM, Chaos said: Why should the Bills be carving out two years of Josh Allen’s career to give on the job training to an OC? The only correct answer to the question: Why is Ken Dorsey the Bills OC? Is “Of the available options he gives the Bills the best chance to win a championship” No other reason to keep him. Maybe I'm just a worry wart but my sense of it is that although Josh is quite possibly the most physically gifted athlete currently playing the position, his game is at risk of deteriorating. I suspect that Josh needs to be coached hard with his OC on him pretty much all the time. However this is not like M. Dareus. Josh is smart and hard working and takes well to the coaching he receives. It's just that he's a young player with an extremely difficult assignment. Playing QB is hard enuf under any circumstances. It's that much harder when you are asked to bear an unreasonable burden of responsibility. It's hard for fans to make accurate evaluations of most football professionals. So I could be wrong, but my impression is that Dorsey is unable to give this O what it needs in the way of a coherent plan and scheme. Wasting prime years of Josh's career would be bad enuf, but actually seeing Josh regress is at least as worrying. Due probably to his personality and the unusual career path Josh has taken Josh's game is always at risk to deteriorate. He needs a really good OC. Edited February 16, 2023 by starrymessenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: Maybe I'm just a worry wart but my sense of it is that although Josh is quite possibly the most physically gifted athlete currently playing the position, his game is at risk of deteriorating. I suspect that Josh needs to be coached hard with his OC on him pretty much all the time. However this is not like M. Dareus. Josh is smart and hard working and takes well to the coaching he receives. It's just that he's a young player with an extremely difficult assignment. Playing QB is hard enuf under any circumstances. It's that much harder when you are asked to bear an unreasonable burden of responsibility. It's hard for fans to make accurate evaluations of most football professionals. So I could be wrong, but my impression is that Dorsey is unable to give this O what it needs in the way of a coherent plan and scheme. Wasting prime years of Josh's career would be bad enuf, but actually seeing Josh regress is at least as worrying. Due probably to his personality and the unusual career path Josh has taken Josh's game is always at risk to deteriorate. He needs a really good OC. I am not anti-Dorsey. I am not sure what the available options would be that might help the Bills win a championship. If there are no better options than Dorsey then roll with Dorsey. But Imagine if you held interviews for the OC Job, which included Dorsey, and asked him "why are the best choice to help the bills win a championship in 2023? " and his answer was "I was only a rookie last year, you have to give me time to develop, obviously I will be better in year 2", a logical GM would kick him out the door. So I assume Dorsey has more to offer than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) On 2/14/2023 at 6:49 AM, Warcodered said: For a first year OC he really wasn't terrible, giving the guy another year to improve isn't that ridiculous. I don't love the idea of gambling Allen and Diggs prime years on an inexperienced OC But I am more comfortable giving him another year than I am giving Frazier another year who has shown consistently his defenses are faring much worse than other DC's with less talented defenses are against the same common opponents in the playoffs...and its every year. But..Dorsey may not have been "terrible" this year, but he certainly has a lot to work on that he struggled with this year. We had 2 legit downfield WR's on the team in Diggs and Davis only. The rest of the roster was basically slot WR's, yet Dorsey kept trying to force this air it out downfield attack when we were not built for that. And that includes a weak OL that can't hold their protections long enough for Josh to comfortably get the ball down field without first having to scramble. We drafted a RB for his receiving skills in Cook, yet we don't throw him the ball all that much. Additionally, he is an under sized RB whose is best suited for working in space, yet we frequently run draw plays with him up the middle. Lacked consistency in trying to establish the run. His situational awareness was a weak spot, as was his redzone play calling. Our WR's were relied on to win their one on one routes too much rather than scheming to get guys open the way teams like KC do on the regular. Our offense was too predictable and was lacking in adjustments. He gets more of a benefit of the doubt being a first year OC...but he has a lot to improve. Edited February 17, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: I am not anti-Dorsey. I am not sure what the available options would be that might help the Bills win a championship. If there are no better options than Dorsey then roll with Dorsey. But Imagine if you held interviews for the OC Job, which included Dorsey, and asked him "why are the best choice to help the bills win a championship in 2023? " and his answer was "I was only a rookie last year, you have to give me time to develop, obviously I will be better in year 2", a logical GM would kick him out the door. So I assume Dorsey has more to offer than that. Well that "excuse" is pretty much what BB offered up at his presser. No rookie OC has ever won a championship. I guess they think he' must be pretty good. And I'm sure they left no stone uncovered (in Carolina) when they had to replace Daboll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Wow now I am convinced Dorsey is a terrible OC a he got Lee Smith endorsement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said: It does bring up a hypothetically interesting question that we would never know the answer to. What would have happened if Daboll never left and he stayed for this year. What we learned from Daboll leaving is that we had to take step back with our superstar QB, while the new OC and QB gelled. This will be repeated when Dorsey leaves. It is why some teams with a truly elite QB have a head coach who takes ownership of the offense. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chaos said: What we learned from Daboll leaving is that we had to take step back with our superstar QB, while the new OC and QB gelled. This will be repeated when Dorsey leaves. It is why some teams with a truly elite QB have a head coach who takes ownership of the offense. They took a significant step back personnel wise on offense...........2021 Sanders and Beasley were a declining but still productive duo of reliable veteran receivers that wasn't replaced and the maligned Daryl Williams was a league average starter at RG in 2021 who was replaced by a terrible Rodger Saffold and the move also caused Bates to flip to the right side and he didn't perform as well. And yet, Dorsey put up as much overall production as Daboll had and was more consistent until the clunker in the playoffs versus Cinci. People forget that Daboll's inconsistency as a game planner and play caller contributed greatly to the team losing 6 regular season games in 2021. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Lee Smith? The Lee Smit? He’s part of the stink and couldn’t get us over the hump. Some of us have great expectations and he ain’t no Charles Dickens. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Debating whether I should change my screen name to “Lee Smith’s Couch”… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: As a sports fan for 49 years and counting this isn’t going to end well when a player takes on the fans good luck Buffalo Bills Lee Smith with that? Let me be the first Buffalo Bills fan to sing the goodbye song. “Goodbye Lee Smith, goodbye Lee Smith, goodbye Lee Smith we hate to see you go. So Lee Smith getting traded or released soon by the Buffalo Bills after his performance begins to slip. Fans don’t forget stuff like that. Some things are best kept to one selves Lee Smith would be my word of advice to Lee Smith in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo He's retired. He hasn't played for the Bills in 3 years 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: As a sports fan for 49 years and counting this isn’t going to end well when a player takes on the fans good luck Buffalo Bills Lee Smith with that? Let me be the first Buffalo Bills fan to sing the goodbye song. “Goodbye Lee Smith, goodbye Lee Smith, goodbye Lee Smith we hate to see you go. So Lee Smith getting traded or released soon by the Buffalo Bills after his performance begins to slip. Fans don’t forget stuff like that. Some things are best kept to one selves Lee Smith would be my word of advice to Lee Smith in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Time for a break on your couch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: As a sports fan for 49 years and counting this isn’t going to end well when a player takes on the fans good luck Buffalo Bills Lee Smith with that? Let me be the first Buffalo Bills fan to sing the goodbye song. “Goodbye Lee Smith, goodbye Lee Smith, goodbye Lee Smith we hate to see you go. So Lee Smith getting traded or released soon by the Buffalo Bills after his performance begins to slip. Fans don’t forget stuff like that. Some things are best kept to one selves Lee Smith would be my word of advice to Lee Smith in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Lol my dude. Lee Smith may have a point after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 10:56 AM, ALLinALLEN said: lol did he even play for us when dorsey was here? 🙄 Lee Smith and Ken Dorsey both were on the Buffalo Bills during the 2019 and 2020 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Dorsey needs to be better, but at some point we all need to acknowledge that the OL and WR’s were much worse in ‘22 than ‘21. Thats a lot of downgrade for a first time play caller to deal with. We went from Diggs, Davis, Beasley, Sanders and McKenzie to Diggs, Davis, McKenzie and Shakir. Then we went from a middle of the pack OL to a bottom third OL. Just an all around failure around Josh this past year. Players regressing, not stepping up, not being trusted and not enough help to even begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, SCBills said: Dorsey needs to be better, but at some point we all need to acknowledge that the OL and WR’s were much worse in ‘22 than ‘21. Thats a lot of downgrade for a first time play caller to deal with. We went from Diggs, Davis, Beasley, Sanders and McKenzie to Diggs, Davis, McKenzie and Shakir. Then we went from a middle of the pack OL to a bottom third OL. Just an all around failure around Josh this past year. Players regressing, not stepping up, not being trusted and not enough help to even begin with. Sanders was nothing special in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:03 PM, Saint Doug said: Debating whether I should change my screen name to “Lee Smith’s Couch”… drop 🎤 /thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Man, Lee Smith really struck a nerve with some people on here and I find that hilarious. That being said, he has a Podcast on YouTube. Called the hut hut podcast. So far he has had three Bills on: Fitz, Bease, and Feliciano. Some nice insight on the Bills from, you know, actual players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Lee Ward needs to understand that fans are AKA customers. We say what we want. Know your role and shut your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 This is one of the best interviews I've ever listened to. I friggin love Lee Smith!!! Dude's hilarious!!! Anyone up in arms about the specific comment needs to go listen to the whole interview to get a feel for the guy. I belly laughed several times while listening to this Interview. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 8:27 PM, Xwnyer said: Wow now I am convinced Dorsey is a terrible OC a he got Lee Smith endorsement Tell Lee Smith I'll stay on my couch if he would stop holding and killing offensive drives. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) On 2/14/2023 at 10:51 PM, Ramza86 said: Ill stay on my couch and save him a spot right next to me because that guy has been a waste of a roster spot his entire career. Guarantee he'll block you from getting to the fridge... but if your do get there don't try throwing him a beer. Edited February 20, 2023 by ArtVandalay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 5:27 PM, Xwnyer said: Wow now I am convinced Dorsey is a terrible OC a he got Lee Smith endorsement The guy that is literally had a job on an NFL team every year knows more than you do 12 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Tell Lee Smith I'll stay on my couch if he would stop holding and killing offensive drives. 😎 You should stay on your couch because you would’ve gotten ran over 19 hours ago, White Linen said: Lee Ward needs to understand that fans are AKA customers. We say what we want. Know your role and shut your mouth. You’re allowed to be a stupid as you want as a customer On 2/18/2023 at 9:22 AM, Mr. WEO said: Sanders was nothing special in Buffalo. I actually think he played quite well, but he just hit a wall older players do that to me it’s the exact situation that we want now hopefully without the wall moving Gabe Davis to the third position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 6:12 PM, BADOLBILZ said: They took a significant step back personnel wise on offense...........2021 Sanders and Beasley were a declining but still productive duo of reliable veteran receivers that wasn't replaced and the maligned Daryl Williams was a league average starter at RG in 2021 who was replaced by a terrible Rodger Saffold and the move also caused Bates to flip to the right side and he didn't perform as well. And yet, Dorsey put up as much overall production as Daboll had and was more consistent until the clunker in the playoffs versus Cinci. People forget that Daboll's inconsistency as a game planner and play caller contributed greatly to the team losing 6 regular season games in 2021. I just think that it’s a little much to get on a first year play collar and be upset that he wasn’t good enough to get the team to the Super Bowl. He’s going to get better. Just give him better groceries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Obviously a bunch of dudes on a MB know more than a 10+ year NFL vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The guy that is literally had a job on an NFL team every year knows more than you do You should stay on your couch because you would’ve gotten ran over You’re allowed to be a stupid as you want as a customer I actually think he played quite well, but he just hit a wall older players do that to me it’s the exact situation that we want now hopefully without the wall moving Gabe Davis to the third position I'd rather have Yolo👀 34 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The guy that is literally had a job on an NFL team every year knows more than you do You should stay on your couch because you would’ve gotten ran over You’re allowed to be a stupid as you want as a customer I actually think he played quite well, but he just hit a wall older players do that to me it’s the exact situation that we want now hopefully without the wall moving Gabe Davis to the third position Says Lee Smith's agent😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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