ExiledInIllinois Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Angry Bills fans channeling their inner Veruca: 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I was that rare Lee Smith defender during his two stints here. We could have used a Lee Smith this year to help hide the inadequacy of Spencer Brown, at least on some plays. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 This "Just Wait Till Next Year" song Lee's singing is a remake I've heard the last 40+ years. It's an oldie but not a goodie & it's wearing thin. We're stuck w/ Dorsey whether we like it or not. Hope he improves a ton. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 ... for a coaching job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Quote “I’m just telling y’all, I’m telling y’all right now the Buffalo Bills are going to be terrifying next year with the rejuvenation and the healing that hopefully takes place this offseason." He does speak the truth. I'm already terrified! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Bruffalo said: I'm not happy with Dorsey but I can understand why he did what he did. Nobody, and I mean nobody, took a step forward this season on offense. Crowder went down early, McKenzie blew his opportunity. Gabe Davis didn't show enough to be the #2 the org wanted him to be. Diggs was fantastic, but he can only do so much when the defense is just focused on shutting him down. The O-Line was horrifying, I don't think I've seen worse guard play this season. The RBs were getting touched at the handoff. Spencer Brown gets beat easily for being a big athletic guy. It was just rough. Allen hides so many of the warts, he's one of the top 3 most dynamic players in the league. We need to invest in him and around him, because without Allen this team would be dead in the water. Some serious re-evaluation of consistently neglecting key positions on offense is required. What I fear more than anything is that Josh Allen's legacy is going to end up being similar to what Domink Hasek was for the Sabres. An all-world, once in a generation type player they failed to build around that had his career more or less wasted here by a management team that just couldn't get the job done. A common theme, neglect of the offense. Fix the line, improve the pass and run blocking, get a true no. 2 receiver. No and's, if's, or but's. Get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Lee Smith To Bills Fans: Jabroni! Edited February 14, 2023 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I always liked Lee Smith. I don't blame him being anti-fan. I have been here for a decade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 As for what happened this season, Lee didn’t blame coaching. He said he watched the game and knew in real time what was happening in the Cincinnati - the team was exhausted. They played like they had no gas in the tank. He believes it was a result from a crazy season and some bad breaks. He really believes they’ll get back on track next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 hours ago, RiotAct said: Stay on y’alls couch and go back to y’alls little jobs!!! Good advice Cletus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Lee smith can kindly return to being a retired waste of a roster spot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, JohnNord said: As for what happened this season, Lee didn’t blame coaching. He said he watched the game and knew in real time what was happening in the Cincinnati - the team was exhausted. They played like they had no gas in the tank. He believes it was a result from a crazy season and some bad breaks. He really believes they’ll get back on track next season I mean they played by far their worst game of the year. Maybe they just forgot to get up for the playoffs but I think that is unlikely. Milano and Edmunds apart the team played with zero energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 hours ago, RiotAct said: Stay on y’alls couch and go back to y’alls little jobs!!! His statement smells a bit like this for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 May not be the proper forum. But since we are talking coaches. With all the Bills success on both sides of the ball the past several years now do you find it odd we dont lose more coaches? Daboll is the only that has left for a head coach. We have lost very few assistants that receive bump in titles elsewhere. Could it be the NFL does not think highly of the Bills staff and system? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 minute ago, ngbills said: May not be the proper forum. But since we are talking coaches. With all the Bills success on both sides of the ball the past several years now do you find it odd we dont lose more coaches? Daboll is the only that has left for a head coach. We have lost very few assistants that receive bump in titles elsewhere. Could it be the NFL does not think highly of the Bills staff and system? Highly probable. Especially defensive coaches. Who in their right mind would hire Frazier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Lee Smith To Bills Fans: Jabroni! Lee Smith is perhaps the GOAT of Jabroni's to every play in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Lee and many others are missing the point of the critiques of our coordinators, it’s not totally about the regular season , although there is some there, it’s the lack of capacity by our coordinators, both Frazier and Dorsey, but mostly Frazier, to adjust their schemes to fit the the game flow, or as is said, they don’t make in game adjustments, in a fashion that achieves anything that helps the team post season, again, post season, Frazier has openly admitted he is loath to make any changes in his game plan during games, to include the post season, when it’s all on the line, his defensive scheme, although functional in the regular season, has failed for three consecutive post seasons, in a notably fashion, that is why many fans are a bit miffed at the coaches. So Lee, get your head out of your backside, and comment on what we are talking about, that might be useful…, GO BILLS!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 My memory of Lee Smith is that he could barely remember the snap count, let alone the play design. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, ngbills said: May not be the proper forum. But since we are talking coaches. With all the Bills success on both sides of the ball the past several years now do you find it odd we dont lose more coaches? Daboll is the only that has left for a head coach. We have lost very few assistants that receive bump in titles elsewhere. Could it be the NFL does not think highly of the Bills staff and system? Good point. While Dorsey got some interest this year, the fact that Frazier rarely gets a sniff for a HC gig despite having a top 2 defense statistically the past 4 years (aside from 2020) is telling. Either the other teams don't think it's his D (likely), or he doesn't pass the eye test (also likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Shouldn't Lee be holding someone somewhere? Might as well make up he is is holding someone like they did when he played with Bills. He had an entire year with no holds but this bogus comment persisted all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: ..Writing a check, that he could never cash.. I still remember when Jim Brinson called Josh Mora "Jabroni Josh" on the Empire Sports Network..........Brinson was a character.........Josh was p!ssed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: For a first year OC he really wasn't terrible, giving the guy another year to improve isn't that ridiculous. The fact is in a year that we were supposed to be super bowl champs, maybe we shouldn't have had a "first year OC" . Maybe this shouldn't have been his "learning year". 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Might as well make up he is is holding someone like they did when he played with Bills. He had an entire year with no holds but this bogus comment persisted all year. That was the year he couldn't hold because he was false starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: That was the year he couldn't hold because he was false starting. Except he had entire year where he had no penalties. Some Bills fans said he was but referees didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Lee Smith is perhaps the GOAT of Jabroni's to every play in the NFL. Dude carved out a hell of a career as a blocking 3rd TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Lee knows the exact same amount about this year's team and this year's offense as the fans do. He doesn't elevate himself to a higher level by criticizing the fans. Diggs knows about this year's offense and Diggs wasn't happy with it after week 9. Like the majority of fans Edited February 14, 2023 by pigpen65 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Just now, pigpen65 said: Lee knows the exact same amount about this year's team and this year's offense as the fans do. He doesn't elevate himself to a higher level by criticizing the fans. Diggs knows about this year's offense and Diggs wasn't happy with it after week 9. Like the majority of fans How did you count that many fans on your fingers and toes? Reminds me of claims by "Moral" Majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Dude carved out a hell of a career as a blocking 3rd TE. Right. In wrestling a "job" is a losing wrestling match. A jobber.......or jabroni.......is a guy who carves out a career as a fringe roster wrestler with a very specific, inglorious role. Lee Smith = textbook Jabroni 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Yeah, so did Lee Smith make anyone feel more confident? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Warcodered said: For a first year OC he really wasn't terrible, giving the guy another year to improve isn't that ridiculous. Why should the Bills be carving out two years of Josh Allen’s career to give on the job training to an OC? The only correct answer to the question: Why is Ken Dorsey the Bills OC? Is “Of the available options he gives the Bills the best chance to win a championship” No other reason to keep him. Edited February 14, 2023 by Chaos 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Maybe hope is a strategy... as long as hope leads to: Better and more consistent pass protection and run blocking from our O-line. More play-action worked into the play designs because Allen is much better off of play action. A run game that looks like part of the game plan rather than an afterthought. One that can bleed the clock, spell our D, and protect a lead late in games. Josh making quicker decisions with the ball and hitting more high-percentage throws to his hot reads and outlet options in the flat when deeper throws are covered. Less turnovers and the big guy taking less hits. Some consistency out of the slot position and a WR on the boundary that can take some of the pressure off Diggs. Saying "Dorsey sucks" from my couch seems a bit oversimplified, but an OC ultimately owns those challenges next year. I hope Dorsey does blow the doors off it next year. I don't want to see our coaches fail, quite the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Except he had entire year where he had no penalties. Some Bills fans said he was but referees didn't. Except the year before that he had 9 which on a per play basis for a little used blocking tight end is ridiculous. He also played 171 snaps in his unpenalized year, the second fewest of his career. The year before when he had 9 accepted penalties he played 319 snaps. He had 40 accepted penalties for his career including 16 holdings and 21 false starts but keep pushing that it's a false narrative. He had one clean year, right after a horrible year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Lee Smith lobbying hard for Beane to sign him yet again.. we’ll be hearing from “Smoke” Brown no doubt soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Terrifying to other nfl teams or terrifying to us? 8 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Shouldn't Lee be holding someone somewhere? False start… on the offense… number 85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Lee Smith's career stats look like the game log of a mediocre TE, guys outproduce his 11 yr career in an annual basis. He's not even the best Lee Smith, google him and you get a baseball player. Dude is the last person to tell someone to stay on a couch. What an ego for a garbage player... then goes on to admit Dorsey needs to work on fixing the offense 🤣 .. what a clown. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 hours ago, RiotAct said: Stay on y’alls couch and go back to y’alls little jobs!!! Does this mean players don't really care about us, know about us, and think of us as part of the team? I'm stunned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 37 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 9 hours ago, That's No Moon said: False start… on the offense… number 85 Lol, or Holding....offense number 85...10 yard penalty repeat down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Haven't had a real deep threat since Lee left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, pigpen65 said: Lee knows the exact same amount about this year's team and this year's offense as the fans do. He doesn't elevate himself to a higher level by criticizing the fans. Diggs knows about this year's offense and Diggs wasn't happy with it after week 9. Like the majority of fans Yep. Pretty sure Lee was on the couch like the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 64 total yards rushing in a playoff game, in December, in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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