What Are Your Expectations For The 2023 Season?

[Mynamemike]

Some type of heartbreak I suppose.  🤷‍♂️ 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

How's that change happen? Bad cap situation, same coaches. Where do the changes come from 

We better grab that free T-shirt and head home

[Luka]

I don't have any expectations until they make moves along the lines this offseason. If we get don't bigger, more physical, more athletic along the offensive line, I won't expect much more than a wild card berth.

Edited January 29, 2023 by Luka

[jcamm1966]

Positive is we will we not be superbowl hype team, Miami, KC Cinn Jax will have all the press, I see 10 and 7 maybe 11 and 6 wildcard and on the road for game one and done, Marvin Lewis 2.0

[Rico]

1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

How's that change happen? Bad cap situation, same coaches. Where do the changes come from 

Has to come from within. No doubt McD & Beane have their work cut out for them, but 14 wins is nothing to sneeze at. I think we will know better after Day 2 of the draft.

[y2zipper]

I expect them to win the super bowl next year or fire people. That's where we are now.

[Brian Higgins hair]

Truthfully, we’re nowhere near as good as we think, in a tough division.

10-7 and no wild card.

No run game. No defensive line pressure. Weak at linebacker with little Terrell Bernard as the guy? Horribly deficient O line.

Just Josh, Diggs and Knox. 
Beane better make some magic with smoke and mirrors.

[nosejob]

5 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

I expect a D that can be more effective all game long, especially in clutch moments. I expect all of our coaches to be able to make multiple and effective adjustments quickly throughout the games when their initial game plan isn’t proceeding as expected, not just at half time.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is what I was hoping for this year especially going into the playoffs. Do I think after the last few years that's gonna change? Nope. Our defense is and will always be under Frazier the equivalent to run, run pass and punt. We've been catching teams off guard early the last few years. Those days are over.

[nosejob]

4 hours ago, Herb Nightly said:

The OP was so long that I couldn't read it all the way through. 

When you talk about cutting players dont forget  about dead cap money.

There's always a chance Josh reworks his contract to free up cap space.

Hines' contract isn't guaranteed,is it? I'd try to renegotiate and if Singletary gets an offer the Bills won't match,draft a bigger back.

Brown was hurt and I think he can be serviceable. Morse is much more than "meh" but Bills need a plan in case he gets hurt again. Bates might be better off at LG and good riddance to Saffold.

Poyer, Hamlin and Hyde could ALL be gone. Benford to safety has been floated...could the Bills move to a 4-3 ,dump the nickel and try Taron at safety?

I think it would be stupid not to throw Poyer 7 mil. for next year....and hopefully have a healthy Hyde. They can find a way to do a 2yr. deal with a bonus and an out after one,

Then they can iron things out behind them.

[BillsVet]

2 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

The Bills will need to adjust on Offense. The Offensive Line must improve...No more of that garbage. There's no excuse. We have a cheat code at QB and WR...They have to keep Josh cleaner, and they have to become more multi-scheme...More plays designed to get you 7-15...Cook should be prominent in that role. I think they need another young RB...And I think they need to at very least hit a solid double with a WR in this Draft. It's all do-able...Block better mostly.

 

They've got a lot of work to do...We'll know more in May...

 

I've have not observed enough to indicate OBD A) values offense compared to their major AFC competitors B) identifies and acquires talent in the draft and UFA that C) fits an aligned scheme which can succeed in the modern NFL.  

 

This off-season has to be a tremendous departure from previous years when they found a reason not to improve their offense around Josh.  It certainly could happen, but it should not have taken this playoff loss to reveal this gap.  

[TBBills Fan]

3 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

It's interesting that the Bills were the pre-season favorite to win the SB.  It's rare that a team that's never even made the SB is the pre-season favorite the following season.  KC had been the fav in the AFC the past couple of seasons, but not the favorite the year they won it, think NE was.  In the NFC last couple of years Tampa and Rams were favorites again, teams that have at least been there if not won it all. 

 

Not that it's an excuse but it may have been that caused them to be a bit over confident and felt they could just show up and win and slowed down any creativeness particularly on offense.

Yes.  The day of the Bengals game I heard Brandt say that Josh already has his super bowl speech written.  That gave me a sick feeling in my stomach.

For gods sakes, if you.hae it written you DONT tell anyone and put that kind of thing into the universe, because you will get smacked down real quick.

They bought into the hype.

 

And so did the fans!  We thought it was a given, and didn't show up for the playoffs. Audible who dey chants were heard on my tv and that was before the game got out of hand. 

 

We all need to be better than that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KOKBILLS]

19 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

I've have not observed enough to indicate OBD A) values offense compared to their major AFC competitors B) identifies and acquires talent in the draft and UFA that C) fits an aligned scheme which can succeed in the modern NFL.  

 

This off-season has to be a tremendous departure from previous years when they found a reason not to improve their offense around Josh.  It certainly could happen, but it should not have taken this playoff loss to reveal this gap.  

 

100% agree...

[CoudyBills]

I expect I'll approach the season like the drought years.  Obviously, I'll expect a playoff birth, but I won't expect anything beyond a wild card round win.  I guess a playoff also ran.

[Saint Doug]

I could easily see getting bounced from the playoffs next year. This team is not built as a perennial playoff contender. Take Allen out of the equation, and our roster is fairly average. With Allen in the equation, as it stands, Allen will have to play to perfection for us to compete. We really shouldn’t have to rely so much on a single player. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

Yes.  The day of the Bengals game I heard Brandt say that Josh already has his super bowl speech written.  That gave me a sick feeling in my stomach.

For gods sakes, if you.hae it written you DONT tell anyone and put that kind of thing into the universe, because you will get smacked down real quick.

They bought into the hype.

 

And so did the fans!  We thought it was a given, and didn't show up for the playoffs. Audible who dey chants were heard on my tv and that was before the game got out of hand. 

 

We all need to be better than that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The selling tickets to Atlanta didn't help any either even though the Bengals were doing the same.  But their ticket sales didn't get all the press that the Bills got for doing it.  A good reason for that is the Bills Mafia and how they follow the team far and near so was played up in press as a cool story.  But was't cool to the Bengals and didn't do the B ills any favor fro ma motivational point.

[TBBills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

The selling tickets to Atlanta didn't help any either even though the Bengals were doing the same.  But their ticket sales didn't get all the press that the Bills got for doing it.  A good reason for that is the Bills Mafia and how they follow the team far and near so was played up in press as a cool story.  But was't cool to the Bengals and didn't do the B ills any favor fro ma motivational point.

100% agree

[DuckyBoys]

expect another quick exit in the playoffs till we fix the OL and the defense actually is willing to attack when needed

[Nephilim17]

Upgrading the O-line and adding a bona fide consistent receiving threat will make this team always dangerous. And if Miller and Tre regain form (no guarantees) that combined with what I said first makes this team Super Bowl favorites.

No O-line upgrade and no big receiving threat likely means 10-12 wins and and early playoff exit.

[UKBillFan]

3 hours ago, y2zipper said:

I expect them to win the super bowl next year or fire people. That's where we are now.

This is the Bills. In the long run, it may do them good to have a disastrous season not down to injuries and clear the top table. But they’ll probably make the play offs, win the Wildcard before losing one of the next three games due to issues we’ve seen before but it will just be enough for everyone to hang on to their jobs.

[BillsFanNC]

Wake me up when they're in the super bowl.

 

Until then we're the early 90s Dolphins.

 

 

Edited January 30, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[Talley56]

Maybe not exactly what is being asked for with this thread but, with the Niners loss, we will officially be playing on the road against whoever the SB champions end up being.  Any possibility we get the opener for a 2nd straight year?

[Buffalo Super Fan]

I am not expecting much from the Buffalo Bills in 2023 in the hunt maybe sneak into a wildcard playoff berth if things go well. I think the Bills will lose heavily in free agency and the London trip is another problem wearing down the Bills players the extra travel. If things do well 10-7 if things go bad 9-8 or 8-9 for the Bills 2023 record so far. Things could change depending on how badly the Bills are hit with the free agent losses. The Bills are in trouble in a improving AFC East division. I see the Bills third behind New England and Miami right now. Coaching is also a big part of that. I have zero belief in Sean McDermott after the two years of a Super Bowl team he wasted. The Bills need to try and get back to these last two years talent wise by 2026 when the new Bills stadium opens in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[hondo in seattle]

I really hope I'm wrong...

 

But I don't see Beane making dramatic improvements.  Other than Josh, Beane mostly finds role players in the draft, not diference-makers.   He's done better with free agency but doesn't have the resources to do much this year.  

 

Sadly, at this point in the offseason, I think the Bills make the playoffs in 2023 but fail yet again to make it to the Super Bowl.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

If I was Allen I would get into a weight room all off-season and come into training camp in the best shape of my life.

 

That vacation photo and he’s got a pooch gut? Not acceptable. 
 

Get into the weight room, and come back with 10+ pounds of muscle. 
 

On Kyle Brandts podcast he talks about always joking with Jordan Palmer when Burrow is “all ball”.

 

Not saying he’s not serious, but one thing he can control is his fitness and I think by the photos he could be an even more dynamic athlete. 
 

 

[wppete]

A lot of stress and disappointment.

[Mango]

Meh, it’s hard to have any expectations for next year. Like I don’t expect us to win the division or be SB favorites. 
 

I hope to see better offensive decision making from both the OC and QB that makes moving the football look a lot less difficult. That includes play call, reading defenses, and being more decisive with the football. Especially since I expect there to be some rookies learning live next season. I also hope to see better protection for the QB. 
 

I am afraid the wheels fall off this thing and this staff and FO lose the roster and that forces the Pegulas to reset, which is terrifying. I think the staff knows this is a possibility and they may risk long term resources in order to save a single season/their jobs. Also a scary prospect. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Zero expectations. Worse of all, if they dominant out of the gate and beat the Chiefs and/or Bengals in the first six weeks of the season it will mean NOTHING! Just like it meant nothing in 2021 and 2022.

 

The entire Bills 2023 season is irrelevant until January. Finish as the 1 seed or the 7 seed, won’t make a difference to me.

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, Mango said:

Meh, it’s hard to have any expectations for next year. Like I don’t expect us to win the division or be SB favorites. 
 

I hope to see better offensive decision making from both the OC and QB that makes moving the football look a lot less difficult. That includes play call, reading defenses, and being more decisive with the football. Especially since I expect there to be some rookies learning live next season. I also hope to see better protection for the QB. 
 

I am afraid the wheels fall off this thing and this staff and FO lose the roster and that forces the Pegulas to reset, which is terrifying. I think the staff knows this is a possibility and they may risk long term resources in order to save a single season/their jobs. Also a scary prospect. 

What's terrifying is this current coaching staff wasting the first decade of Josh's career. Settling for nice regular seasons only to quickly get bounced in the playoffs. At one point I thought we'd win 2 SB's with Josh. Now I think we'll be lucky to win 1.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

4 hours ago, Talley56 said:

Maybe not exactly what is being asked for with this thread but, with the Niners loss, we will officially be playing on the road against whoever the SB champions end up being.  Any possibility we get the opener for a 2nd straight year?

Zero percent I am thinking. They could have put Dallas as the opener this season against the Rams and did not because I think they didn’t want to schedule the same team in back to back years.

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

What's terrifying is this current coaching staff wasting the first decade of Josh's career. Settling for nice regular seasons only to quickly get bounced in the playoffs. At one point I thought we'd win 2 SB's with Josh. Now I think we'll be lucky to win 1.

I don’t totally disagree with you. But none of that is really close to an answer for the question of “what’s your expectation for next season”.

[par73]

Lower expectations. A lot to fix, and no cap space. Really need to draft well, for a change.

[Toyo321]

13 hours ago, Rico said:

Super Bowl Champs! 
 

Not a one of the 4 teams left are GREAT, they are very good though. IF the Bills make some necessary changes & tweaks (OL, WR, physicality, tackling, ATTITUDE), I see no reason why they finally can’t make it happen.

The Bills are not equal or better than the Eagles team at any position, including players, coaches and team ownership.  Sorry but that game today was proof.  They destroyed the 49er's....It  would have not mattered who was QB1 for the 49er's.  Also Josh Allen can not be the entire team known as the Buffalo Bills.  That model has show to be a losing philosophy.  Since 2017 and counting the Bills are 4 and 5 in their post season games, that is all that matters, they are not championship caliber and never will be, with out a major coaching overhaul and personal change on the O line and D Line.

Edited January 30, 2023 by Toyo321

[Shortchaz]

11-12 wins, Probably win the division, hard out for someone in the playoffs (if Allen stays healthy) 

[Mango]

I expect for the Bills to get some of the Jesus/Angels in the Outfield attention that Mahomes is getting to heal his leg so quickly. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

I think we had a shot with von and one of hyde/poyer playing healthy this year so I like our chances next year.  Gotta shore up the oline

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

The Bills are not equal or better than the Eagles team at any position, including players, coaches and team ownership.  Sorry but that game today was proof.  They destroyed the 49er's....It  would have not mattered who was QB1 for the 49er's.  Also Josh Allen can not be the entire team known as the Buffalo Bills.  That model has show to be a losing philosophy.  Since 2017 and counting the Bills are 4 and 5 in their post season games, that is all that matters, they are not championship caliber and never will be, with out a major coaching overhaul and personal change on the O line and D Line.

Most important position goes to us and it’s not even that close imo…eagles are without a doubt the more complete team though so I agree with the general point of your post still 😁

 

it is straight up mindboggling what josh was able to do with virtually no offensive line this season.  Saffold was absolutely dreadful

Edited January 30, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Awwufelloff]

To make the playoffs.

[Adam727]

1) Keep Allen upright and healthy by improving the O-Line and/or play design.  

2) Fix the cap

3) Get Allen at least one new legit weapon on offense, whether it's boundary WR, slot WR, RB

4) make the playoffs

[purple haze]

Ask this question in May.   We’ll have a better indication once we see what happens in free agency and the draft. And Beane saying no Von Miller type signings doesn’t mean there won’t be a signing of significance.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

It’s going to look different roster wise but we’ll be right there with KC and Cincinnati because of Josh Allen.

 

I really feel like we’re the Colts of the previous era. Chiefs are the Patriots, Bengals are the Steelers. We’re the soft team, but we will eventually get where we want to be. 
 

The Bills have to better protect Allen and they have to add another top level defensive lineman/Pass rusher. Yes adding Von Miller and a healthy Jordan Phillips would be very helpful but we need to either upgrade Oliver or make another splash DL addition, most likely through trade.