Which one was worse ? 13 seconds or Cinci fail ?

[Repulsif]

If I saw this topic monday or tuesday, I would have said, the answer is obvious and I wouldn't even have open this topic

 

I was stunned and pretty much disgusted with the 13 seconds. I thought they found a new imaginative way to fail, AGAIN.

I thought this was their best chance to get the Lombardi

But I had hope. Because without this fluke, I thought the team was overall great and the following season beginning was "great", smashing everyone, KC included

 

With the Cinci fail, I wasn't upset during the game, we were playing meh or risky and thought some dices rolled our way during the 8 games streak win

So I thought, we were due this loss, and better happening in divisional than SB, it was a complete one sided game and we had no chance

 

But the days are rolling, and the more and more I feel ... ANGRY. And it gets worse and worse.

It shouldn't and I don't know why exactly

Perhaps I realized this team has too much holes and/or bad schemes when it counts

Perhaps I realized this team is the verge to be the next '90 Dolphins or '05-10 Chargers, and all of this will be put in a bin

I realized I never posted that much number of messages since I joined, 2001 (or 2003 ?), something like 10-15 in a 4 days span, which is massive for me

 

What's your take on this and has @HOUSE a psychology degree to help me ?

 

Edited January 26, 2023 by Repulsif

[CDogg20]

Cincy is fresher, 13 seconds was worse.

[WyoAZBillfan]

Just for me personally, I can accept bad communication/coaching after that show the team put on in KC. Against the Bengals, that was just embarrassing after watching them this season with everything that went on or happened. Very lackluster effort it seemed. That’s just based on how much effort was put into this year. 

[Billz4ever]

13 seconds waaaay worse.

 

A high school coach could've burnt 13 seconds without them scoring.

[Low Positive]

After 13 seconds, I had hope that we were a SB quality team that just messed up in the clutch. This time, I have lost hope that this collection of guys has what it takes. Everyone is blaming coaching, but I'm afraid that the players themselves are not up to it. The Bills went all in this year, and have little cap space to make the necessary changes and this years draft doesn't look like a good one. So, this loss was way worse to me. Not to mention, I live in Cincinnati so it's extra painful.

[Gunsgoodtime]

13 seconds showed how bad our GameDay coaching is, Cincinnati showed how much worse than just bad they really are.  As a fan 13 seconds was way worse to me.  Cincy just confirmed my feelings after 13 seconds, leaving little hope for next year for me

Edited January 26, 2023 by Gunsgoodtime

[Gregg]

13 seconds was way worse. We had that game won. Who lets a team get into FG range starting at their own 25 with just 13 seconds left. The Bengals just kicked our ass. We got beat every way possible. It sucked but what can you do. We lost and we deserved to lose. 

[WhoTom]

13 seconds. The Bills deserved to win that game. Josh deserved to win that game.

 

Everyone in a Bills uniform deserved to lose the Cinci game.

 

 

[May Day 10]

13 seconds was way worse/

 

 

 

I was actually kind of thankful for the Cincy loss going down the way it did.  It was much easier as a fan, I can admit when a team is just really better on a given day, and Cincinnati deserved every bit of what they have.  They left no doubt who the better team was.

 

This was like the first 'legit' loss that they just got outplayed since before Thanksgiving last year to Indianapolis.  And only the 3rd one since KC won in Buffalo on that Monday afternoon or whatever in October during Covid with no fans (Indy, Pitt, KC AFCG).  Any other loss has all sort of 'what if' plays, phantom PI calls, Hail Murray, whatever that just leaves you scratching your head and wondering what happened.

Edited January 26, 2023 by May Day 10

[frostbitmic]

Cincinnati was worse...With :13 seconds it was the end of the game and was just a few horrible plays.

 

With Cincinnati the team never even showed up, it was 14-0 before the offense even got a first down. The Bills sucked from about :13 seconds into the game, until the clock mercifully expired. The Bengals wanted to win and did so with ease.

 

It's a shame a number of players played so badly in their final game as a Buffalo Bill.

[Inigo Montoya]

Let's keep the masochism going!

 

Which was worse?

 

When your surgeon amputated the wrong leg?

 

    OR

 

When you caught your wife sleeping with your best friend?

[BarleyNY]

Unfortunately the root cause of both was failure of our coaches. 

[Yantha]

We made the playoffs, and it was an exciting season.....

 

If not for the "elbow injury", the Bills could have earned a first round bye in my opinion.

[GottaRun]

13 seconds was one of the most exciting games ever played, so at least we were buzzing about how great we looked while being losers.

The Cinci loss was sad and pathetic, for me it was the worse loss.

 

Everyone remembers wide right the same way they will remember 13 seconds.  Cinci was both Cowboys losses, ain't no one talking about those.

Edited January 26, 2023 by GottaRun

[Fleezoid]

I started to pick Cincy, because this game exposed weaknesses and we now know we're not really contenders. After 13 seconds, I had high hopes in the offseason. 

 

But I switched to 13 secs for that very same reason. I realize all that excitement and expectations last year were wasted! Plus, you don't lose games like that. It was likely our Super Bowl year. 

Edited January 27, 2023 by Fleezoid

[NeverOutNick]

Both were bad but I feel like last year we were 100% going to win a Super Bowl if we win that game because Josh was all worldly and our team was pretty healthy… this year, I feel like we may have won the Super Bowl if we got past Cincinnati, but our team was pretty emotionally drained from everything that happened and pretty dinged up. So all in all last year was worse because we should’ve been hoisting the Lombardi trophy.

[US Egg]

Both bordered on being abominations.

 

Throw in wide right and forward lateral and being in the fetal position is an emotion away.

[WhoTom]

11 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Let's keep the masochism going!

 

Which was worse?

 

When your surgeon amputated the wrong leg?

 

    OR

 

When you caught your wife sleeping with your best friend?

 

When I caught my wife sleeping with my best friend, who also happened to be the surgeon who amputated the wrong leg.

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

Cinci.

 

In KC the coaching staff was situationally unprepared and the defense came up short when we needed them to.

In Cinci the coaching staff was completely unprepared to the point where it's conceivable that someone's dog ate the gameplan and both the offense and defense were listless from the get go.  It was worse than the 2018 Jaguars game.

[May Day 10]

I wonder if the Bengals game happened last year, we would have AJ Brown.

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Both were bad but I feel like last year we were 100% going to win a Super Bowl if we win that game because Josh was all worldly and our team was pretty healthy… this year, I feel like we may have won the Super Bowl if we got past Cincinnati, but our team was pretty emotionally drained from everything that happened and pretty dinged up. So all in all last year was worse because we should’ve been hoisting the Lombardi trophy.

 

Even if they had beat the Bengals and somehow managed to get past KC, I think they would have lost to the 49ers/Eagles. Both of those teams would have physically dominated the Bills especially SF.

[B-Large]

Not bothering to show up at home in January is worse.  13 seconds hurt, but give it up to 2 players and an elite coaching staff making an incredible play...

 

last week was a real low point

[quincy]

My vote is for the wrong leg amputation!

 

I am in the minority, the Bengals loss was worse to me.

 

We sucked for 60 minutes on Sunday.

 

The only players that caught my eye in a positive way were Shakir, Beasley and Milano.

 

At home, in Buffalo weather, there was nothing but excuses and a damp squib.

 

At least in Houston and at KC we were in the game and had chances.

 

Last week we couldn't even decide that attempting the FG in the 4th quarter was the sensible thing to do being down 3 scores?

 

 

[HurlyBurly51]

The one with the nickname.  No nickname disqualifies from consideration🤣

[NoHuddleKelly12]

[Einstein]

For me, 13 seconds was WAY worse.

 

I couldnt stop thinking about it for weeks.

 

 

[DCbillsfan]

24 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Let's keep the masochism going!

 

Which was worse?

 

When your surgeon amputated the wrong leg?

 

    OR

 

When you caught your wife sleeping with your best friend?

That's easy dude.  No one wants to be a double amputee.  There's women everywhere and go get a dog for your best friend.  Cheers!

[Steptide]

13 seconds by a light year. I still believe, and always will believe, had we beat kc last year, we would've won the superbowl. The bills had some fugly games last year, but they found their MOJO late last season. We were better than Cincinnati last year and believe we would've beaten them at home 

[Albany,n.y.]

I picked Cincinnati because in KC we didn't get beat by a better team, we lost a coin toss.  Against Cincinnati, we got beat by a better team and I don't know what we can do to get better than them in 2023.  

[goldenboy81]

13 secs was worse,thinking they won and then having my heart ripped out.

 

Went into cincy game thinking they were gonna lose after that Miami game made it easier. Still was the most embarrassing loss at home for playoffs

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

 

 13 seconds and it's not even close. Gave up a lead in 13 seconds, but they also gave up 552 yards and 42 points.

 

The Cincy game they were either without or had players playing that were no where near 100% physically. The 4 big ones(Hyde, Miller, Poyer & White) have 12 All-Pro selections between them, 4 out of our top 5 guys on defense(Milano being the 5th) are were in that group.

 

 So they were without their best pass rusher, their Free Safety, Hamlin the #2 Free Safety, Marlowe their #3 started the game, but got hurt, so onto the #4 guy. Our best CB & our Strong Safety were playing on 1 leg, and Poyer was already playing with 1 arm as well. Poyer gets hurt and we're onto Johnson our #2 SS. Jones our best big man in the middle was out and Phillips was playing with 1 arm. Last year we were only down Tre. This year is far more understandable why we lost and lost big. 

 

 If any defense we faced was down that many players on 1 side of the ball and especially the quality of the player and the positions they play, we would expect to crush that defense. No matter how good their defense was before the injuries came. That's what Cincy did.

 

 

 

[Mark92]

13 seconds was way worse.  Josh Allen won the game and the coaches took it from him.  

[Bill from NYC]

Cinci was much worse imo.

 

In the 13 second debacle, I knew damn well that the Bills were the Bills and could blow the game. I never felt safe, and I know that I was not alone in feeling this way.. Then of course we went down but we appeared to have a rosy future. Of course, McClappy screwed it up with the draft. 

 

In this game we were not only slaughtered, we had to watch our superstar QB get deemed all but worthless due to having no protection and not enough weapons. It was, and still is sickening.

 

They will not fire McDermott. I wish they would but it isn't possible imo. I truly believe that he will draft a first round safety, and possibly trade up to get one.

 

It is a sad situation indeed.

 

 

[K-9]

Because we got our asses handed to us it was much easier for me to accept and much easier to flush out of the system. It wasn’t our day, we were never in contention, so tip of the hat to a better team. We had KC beat and gave it away. Gave. It. Away. That’s just so much harder to accept.

[BillsFan692]

Cinnci no question. A lot to be proud of in our KC loss... yeah it sucked, but team played well left it out their and took it to the wire.

 

 

Cinnci loss on the other hand makes this franchise feel doomed

[Success]

I'm going to go w/ "2 kinds of badness."

 

13 seconds was the ultimate gut-punch.  I can't think of too many big games in any sport that turned like that, that quickly.  That was sheer IMMEDIATE pain, and took me longer to get over.  Weeks.

 

I already feel the pain of the Cincy loss - which wasn't nearly as bad when it happened - dissipating. But it's a more disturbing loss.  As the OP and others have stated, it just kind of showed some flaws that might be hard to overcome.

 

I'm actually less optimistic than I was after 13 seconds.  So, that in a way is worse.

 

[BearNorth]

Cinci - We win the toss, defer, they go 75 yards in 6 plays like a hot knife through butter, against our defense, playing at home with the crowd amped up. We go three and out on the ensuing series, Cinci goes 10 plays 72 yards.  0-14 at home in the playoffs.  Bills should have come out on fire to open the game, and just didn't get er done.  McD is supposedly a defensive guru and we have spent a ton on our defensive front seven in terms of draft capital and actual $, and then we don't show up in the most meaningful game of the year. Cinci line had three backups and a mediocre second year player, and we got no pressure on Burrow.

[Special K]

Not being in the playoffs at all for 17 straight years was worse than any individual playoff loss could be!

[Lost]

Cincy worse in my book.   Game was brutal to watch for one, unlike the KC game.  

 

Secondly, I still had high hopes for this season after the Chiefs won last years game.   This year's exit exposed a LOT of holes and I have all but zero hopes or expectations for a deep playoff run next season.   

 

[DCbillsfan]

9 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Cinci was much worse imo.

 

In the 13 second debacle, I knew damn well that the Bills were the Bills and could blow the game. I never felt safe, and I know that I was not alone in feeling this way.. Then of course we went down but we appeared to have a rosy future. Of course, McClappy screwed it up with the draft. 

 

In this game we were not only slaughtered, we had to watch our superstar QB get deemed all but worthless due to having no protection and not enough weapons. It was, and still is sickening.

 

They will not fire McDermott. I wish they would but it isn't possible imo. I truly believe that he will draft a first round safety, and possibly trade up to get one.

 

It is a sad situation indeed.

 

 

After listening to Beane defend Brown yesterday among other things and listening to McD say we're a good football team, I have this unsettling feeling they're gonna run it back next year pretty much as is.  Not only that but they'll draft another frickin DE in the first round.