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1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Absolutely agree his philosophy is less than ideal, he’s continually reached for needs.  No great GM has ever said, “I took the best player available, that met the needs”.  You take BPA period.  There’s no time ever that somebody has said, sure we drafted a HOF player at X position, but it sure would have been nice to have an average player at the place of need.   He got hung up on a pas catching RB, there’s a second wasted, wanted a cover LB, there’s a wasted 3rd rounder, not to mention panicking about DB and trading away and extra pick to get the consolation prize because he wasn’t willing to go get the guy he wanted for what was basically the same cost.  This last draft was an absolute ***** show and honestly, most have gone the same way.  He gets hung up on a need and won’t budge.


2022 draft was painful, it was so clear they picked based on need. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but this draft is already looking bad. They draft Cook as a receiving back and they don’t even use him for that. Bernard was picked because his coach is buddies with McDermott, useless pick there with good talent available at that spot. 
 

The usage of Elam and Shakir was also baffling this year. I’m not sure if they are worse at drafting, or developing talent, neither are good though.

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1 minute ago, CapeBreton said:


2022 draft was painful, it was so clear they picked based on need. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but this draft is already looking bad. They draft Cook as a receiving back and they don’t even use him for that. Bernard was picked because his coach is buddies with McDermott, useless pick there with good talent available at that spot. 
 

The usage of Elam and Shakir was also baffling this year. I’m not sure if they are worse at drafting, or developing talent, neither are good though.

I thought it was a good draft at the time. But you're right: it was definitely a need-based draft. The draft along with the signing of Von signified that this was a GM who thought one impact player, a few good athletes to phase into playing time, and some vet fillers on the lines would be sufficient to get the team over the top. They were wrong. 

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3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Let's draft more rotational DL who suck so we don't have to play our existing rotation DL who suck too much.


That will also allow us to use any additional roster spots up which gives any of our developmental WR’s the opportunity to try and clear waivers.

 

Which keeps the 7 days between games pretty exciting. 
 

 

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3 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

100% offense. We have to score to try to keep up w/ the Bengals, cause that D w/ all those assets & coaches will never ever ever get it done.

Yep, this is where I’m at. If you can’t stop Cinci with White, Poyer, Elam, Milano, Edmunds, then we aren’t going to do it with another CB drafted in the 1st. If this draft isn’t a star WR and an oline smorgasbord then Beane needs fired. 

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Please go OL, OL, and OL in rounds 1, 2, and 3. Josh can't continue to have pressure in his face every play or take big hits all the time. He can get a lot more out of mediocre skill position talent than any other QB, but we have to protect him. It's been neglected for too long. Just shore up the OL. I don't care if they just do that and try to work with what we have at WR. It's much more important to adequately protect Josh IMO.

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I think we need 2 OL from this draft, and a 3rd via FA.

 

If a very good WR like Jordan Addison falls to #28, then I'd be on-board. Follow that up with OL/OL. I don't want us taking a "project" WR in the late 1st, like Parker Washington.

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4 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

I remember the good old days, like just last offseason, when making such a statement branded someone a heretic and their fanhood was challenged.


now it’s the opposite.  You can’t have any optimism or just root for the team.  So who cares. 

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5 hours ago, DC Greg said:

Please go OL, OL, and OL in rounds 1, 2, and 3. Josh can't continue to have pressure in his face every play or take big hits all the time. He can get a lot more out of mediocre skill position talent than any other QB, but we have to protect him. It's been neglected for too long. Just shore up the OL. I don't care if they just do that and try to work with what we have at WR. It's much more important to adequately protect Josh IMO.

Can you imagine if Josh had 4 seconds every time?

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6 hours ago, DC Greg said:

Please go OL, OL, and OL in rounds 1, 2, and 3. Josh can't continue to have pressure in his face every play or take big hits all the time. He can get a lot more out of mediocre skill position talent than any other QB, but we have to protect him. It's been neglected for too long. Just shore up the OL. I don't care if they just do that and try to work with what we have at WR. It's much more important to adequately protect Josh IMO.

It’s thinking like this that has produced a horrible D-line for this team…so no thanks…

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Depending on who’s available at 27, the pick has to lean OL or WR. Give me the best OG/C in the first. I’d like to see Beane be aggressive in the first four rounds to get impact players. The likelihood that a 5th, 6th or 7th round pick makes the roster is minimal so package picks to move up. Bills hitting on their first three picks would be huge! An anchor on the OL, a playmaking WR and a safety would help balance the roster. 

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Mock draft time??!!

 

Here is a mock I did today. Feel free to mock or compliment it (all rounds, no trades PFF simulator) 

 

RD1: 27: S-Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M.  I figure we lose Poyer, and Johnson can fit right in.  I know, we need a WR and a bunch of offensive toys, but he is BPA here.  

 

R2: 59:  WR-Jalin Hyatt, Tenn.  Risk is only one year of high production, but upside is there to be a true #2 or eventual #1 WR.  

 

R3: 91  RB-Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss.  Compliment for Cook.  Good back with speed/strength/catching.  

 

Rd 4: 130:  C/G Jarrett Patterson, ND.  Eventual replacement for Morse while a starter at G.  Seems like a day 1 player.  Allowed no sacks through Jr. year.   

 

R4:139: LB-Owen Pappoe, Auburn.  Replacement for Edmunds.  Not as athletic, but can hold up in the middle.    

 

R5: 164:  G/OT Jaxon Kirkland, Washington.  Not sure he lasts this long, but another guy who could potentially start day 1.  Some positional flexibility.  

 

R6: 205:  DT-Cameron Young, Miss State.  The need to perhaps replace Oliver or add another weapon/stout player in the middle of the DL.  Strength is more this guys game. 

 

R7: 247:  WR-Jayden Reed, MSU:  Not sure he lasts this long.  Speedy slot WR.  Not sure we need another slot, but great value here and will be a contributor.  More weapons for JA

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