We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

55 minutes ago, Whites Bay said:

While I agree with this sentiment, I think I read he has a torn labrum (?).  Apologies for not backing that up.  I'd be shocked to see him play with any effectiveness - if at all - for the rest of the season.  Not meaning to pee on any barbecues.  But when an inbred goober like me can see him unable to lift his arm above his shoulder on tackles, it's a pretty bad injury.

 

48 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think he should have been IR'd after the Patriots game. 

 

And really in Chicago he couldn't move the arm either and checked himself out. 

 

I think he tore his rotator cuff and do much. 

 

 I've tore both my labrum and rotator cuff and the way he looks to me, I would say it's a rotator cuff. The labrum was a bad tear, ~1.5" in length, but the rotator cuff was far more painful.

 

 With the labrum tear I could still do everything I could before I tore it, once it loosened up, but I would have this really deep ache once I quit using it. The rotator cuff hurt all the time for a month or two until it calmed down.

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Someone listened to “locked on bills” this morning haha.

 

Very interesting metric for sure

 

It was talked about after the initial game against the Bengals also

[Solomon Grundy]

2 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Von Miller went into the Bills locker room with a replica Super Bowl trophy. Put it down on the table in front of the entire team and said "There...You said you would do anything for it. Now do it."

And some asked where's Von Miller 🤷

[LeGOATski]

13 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Someone listened to “locked on bills” this morning haha.

 

Very interesting metric for sure

The stat was presented during week 17 too when a certain Bengals fan (not going to name names...) was stating they obviously would've won based on the first series of plays before the Hamlin injury.

[Pete]

8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I won a lot of money when Kelce scored the TD in OT last year. I had a 10 leg parlay going.   Before Hill scored the long TD I still needed Mahomes to throw 2 more TDs and Hill and Kelce to catch 1 TD each.

 

 

 

You are a ***** Bills fan - which I’m not sure you are 

[CorkScrewHill]

Bengals injury report from PFT

 

The Bengals called right guard Alex Cappa and left tackle Jonah Williams week-to-week because of injuries heading into this week and Wednesday’s practice report brought little reason to think that either player will be ready to go against the Bills this Sunday.

Cappa and Williams both sat out the team’s first practice of the week. Cappa is dealing with an ankle injury that also kept him out against the Ravens in the Wild Card round and Williams left that 24-17 win with a dislocated kneecap.

 

Max Scharping played in place of Cappa and Jackson Carman took over for Williams. The Bengals are also starting Hakeem Adeniji at right tackle in place of La'el Collins.

 

Cornerback Tre Flowers (hamstring) and defensive tackle D.J. Reader (rest) were also out of practice. Cornerback Eli Apple (neck), defensive end Joseph Ossai (shoulder), and safety Michael Thomas (hamstring) were full participants in practice.

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

31 minutes ago, Pete said:

You are a ***** Bills fan - which I’m not sure you are 

Superstitious Bills fan.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Superstitious Bills fan.

There are lots of superstitious Bills fans- but you are the only one I know of that bets against the Bills in the playoffs.

 

is superstitious in your context a euphemism for *****?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

There are lots of superstitious Bills fans- but you are the only one I know of that bets against the Bills in the playoffs.

 

is superstitious in your context a euphemism for *****?

I can’t be the only one. 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I can’t be the only one. 

Bills Mafia always roots for the Bills.  Yes you are the only one.  If you bet against the Bills in the playoffs - you aren’t a fan 

Edited January 18, 2023 by Pete

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

The thing I dont like is there are a lot of times where two receivers end up close to the same spot. That makes it easier on a defense.  What I dont know is that on Dorsey or are our receivers running the wrong route?

 

That's a really good question.

 

The Bills have a lot of option routes in their offense, where the idea is that the WR and QB read the D and choose an option based upon what they see.

This works GREAT when they all see things the same way, and not so great when they don't. 

 

There's no question that with Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley, a lot of in-game experience left the building after last season.  In fact, they may need a bit more route definition on their plays going forward.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Pete said:

Bills Mafia always roots for the Bills

Completely different things to me. Just like how I never draft Bills players in fantasy football.

[MiltonWaddams]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Completely different things to me. Just like how I never draft Bills players in fantasy football.

I agree with this. Few fans know their team as well as we know the Bills. if you can separate gambling from your fanhood, it is a pretty smart way to bet.

Edited January 18, 2023 by MiltonWaddams

[gobills404]

The amount of times I’ve already heard “the Bills don’t have good run game outside of Josh Allen” is mind boggling. I’ve never seen so many media members come to such a strong consensus on something that is so blatantly wrong.

 

1. Cook and Singletary are both over 5 yards per carry during this 8 game win streak.

2. Even if it was true, so what? The Bills DO have Josh Allen and he IS a big boost to an already solid ground attack. 

[JohninMinn.]

3 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

The amount of times I’ve already heard “the Bills don’t have good run game outside of Josh Allen” is mind boggling. I’ve never seen so many media members come to such a strong consensus on something that is so blatantly wrong.

 

1. Cook and Singletary are both over 5 yards per carry during this 8 game win streak.

2. Even if it was true, so what? The Bills DO have Josh Allen and he IS a big boost to an already solid ground attack. 

I think they know we have the slowest back in the league.

[gobills404]

12 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said:

I think they know we have the slowest back in the league.

Yards are yards, and speed isn’t the only way to get them. A 5 yard run from someone who ran a 4.3 counts the same as a 5 yard run from some who ran a 4.6.

Edited January 18, 2023 by gobills404

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Listening to 1530 AM Cincy now:

 

1. They’re banking on Josh Allen turnovers (and the assumption that Burrow won’t have any). 
 

2. They summarize the Ravens game as just a great defense, and the Bills don’t have that level of defense. 
 

Bills should have all their “nobody is scared of them” weapons - McKenzie will be back, John Brown will be up, I think we’ll get Crowder back. 

[Success]

I have heard almost endless comments at this point that the Bengals were well on their way to winning that last game before it stopped.

 

Huh?  Pretty much every game this past weekend had a team that started out hot, and then either ended up losing, or (in our case) almost lost.  Did people just start watching the NFL? That happens all the time in games.

 

Cincy's 1st drive was great, but it's not like the whole game was gonna look that way.  And our 1st drive wasn't all that bad.

 

[Big Turk]

12 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said:

I think they know we have the slowest back in the league.

 

We don't. But even if that is true he has more yards than Mixon on about 40 less carries.

[Beck Water]

11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Listening to 1530 AM Cincy now:

 

1. They’re banking on Josh Allen turnovers (and the assumption that Burrow won’t have any). 
 

2. They summarize the Ravens game as just a great defense, and the Bills don’t have that level of defense. 
 

Bills should have all their “nobody is scared of them” weapons - McKenzie will be back, John Brown will be up, I think we’ll get Crowder back. 

 

 

We can't have them all active.  Diggs and Davis are locks.  Pick 3 more:

McKenzie

Shakir

Beasley

Brown

Crowder

 

Gonna be interesting to see how the coaches see them.

 

My bet would be we don't activate Crowder unless we lose someone (avert) to injury or possibly if the trainers decide McKenzie can't go

The thing is, speed and agility are 100% his thing, so does being 90% put him back to the realm of ordinary players?

 

[mjt328]

10 minutes ago, Success said:

I have heard almost endless comments at this point that the Bengals were well on their way to winning that last game before it stopped.

 

Huh?  Pretty much every game this past weekend had a team that started out hot, and then either ended up losing, or (in our case) almost lost.  Did people just start watching the NFL? That happens all the time in games.

 

Cincy's 1st drive was great, but it's not like the whole game was gonna look that way.  And our 1st drive wasn't all that bad.

 

 

The Bills defense usually plays very vanilla zone defense for the first 1-2 drives.  Once they get a feel for how the other team is attacking, they start adjusting slightly and finding ways to disguise their coverage/rush schemes.  That's when they start putting the clamps on.

 

I saw a stat that Buffalo is 22nd in points allowed in the 1st Quarter.

They are then ranked 5th in the 2nd Quarter, 3rd in the 3rd Quarter, 6th in the 4th Quarter... and 2nd overall in the NFL.

 

[Pokebball]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

We can't have them all active.  Diggs and Davis are locks.  Pick 3 more:

McKenzie

Shakir

Beasley

Brown

Crowder

 

Gonna be interesting to see how the coaches see them.

 

My bet would be we don't activate Crowder unless we lose someone (avert) to injury or possibly if the trainers decide McKenzie can't go

The thing is, speed and agility are 100% his thing, so does being 90% put him back to the realm of ordinary players?

 

I don't know what I don't know about McKenzie. I think Beas, Shakir and McKenzie assuming he's close to 100%. If not, then Brown.

[Beck Water]

24 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Yards are yards, and speed isn’t the only way to get them. A 5 yard run from someone who ran a 4.3 counts the same as a 5 yard run from some who ran a 4.6.

 

Indeed it does.  Let us please not neglect that Singletary contributed one of the most difficult, hard fought 7 yard runs I've seen from a Bill to gain the first down and let us close out the Dolphins game.  Then there is his role in pass protection, where he was a Boss.

 

In his presser today, the normally chary of praise McDermott said outright that he thought all of our backs played really well this week but then called out Devin in particular and said he was "really proud of him"

 

Just now, Pokebball said:

I don't know what I don't know about McKenzie. I think Beas, Shakir and McKenzie assuming he's close to 100%. If not, then Brown.

 

That's where I am.  I think opening Crowder's 21-day window is a win-win situation for both sides.  One, if there is an injury (avert!), he may be ready to step up and contribute.  Two,  Crowder is an UFA this off season; assuming he wants to continue his career, it's a signal to potential suitors in FA that the Bills thought he was healing well and likely to be able to contribute.

Edited January 18, 2023 by Beck Water

[Big Turk]

9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

We can't have them all active.  Diggs and Davis are locks.  Pick 3 more:

McKenzie

Shakir

Beasley

Brown

Crowder

 

Gonna be interesting to see how the coaches see them.

 

My bet would be we don't activate Crowder unless we lose someone (avert) to injury or possibly if the trainers decide McKenzie can't go

The thing is, speed and agility are 100% his thing, so does being 90% put him back to the realm of ordinary players?

 

 

I think it's hard to throw someone into the mix that has had very little time with Allen built up in Crowder. Last you need is them not to be on the same page on a critical 3rd down.

26 minutes ago, Success said:

I have heard almost endless comments at this point that the Bengals were well on their way to winning that last game before it stopped.

 

Huh?  Pretty much every game this past weekend had a team that started out hot, and then either ended up losing, or (in our case) almost lost.  Did people just start watching the NFL? That happens all the time in games.

 

Cincy's 1st drive was great, but it's not like the whole game was gonna look that way.  And our 1st drive wasn't all that bad.

 

 

I swear with some of the comments on this board either people have their memories wiped so they only remember the last game played or they literally have terrible memories and misremember things from the past on a regular basis.

[stevewin]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

A somewhat healthy Jordan Phillips would be a big boost to the interior of this line for getting pressure on Macaulay. 

I feel like his shoulder is not going to be fixed til the offseason - the way he was completely one-arming everything a couple weeks ago I think it is still going to severely limit him now - hopefully he can at least plug some things up 

[gobills404]

From prior to the cancelled game

[clayboy54]

17 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I feel like his shoulder is not going to be fixed til the offseason - the way he was completely one-arming everything a couple weeks ago I think it is still going to severely limit him now - hopefully he can at least plug some things up 

He should just lay down and clog the middle.

[Nineforty]

1 hour ago, Success said:

I have heard almost endless comments at this point that the Bengals were well on their way to winning that last game before it stopped.

 

Huh?  Pretty much every game this past weekend had a team that started out hot, and then either ended up losing, or (in our case) almost lost.  Did people just start watching the NFL? That happens all the time in games.

 

Cincy's 1st drive was great, but it's not like the whole game was gonna look that way.  And our 1st drive wasn't all that bad.

 

And the bills got ball at start of 2nd half, gosh darnit all!

Edited January 19, 2023 by Nineforty

[gordong]

Cincy fans getting a little cocky this week....   Just come out and play our A game and we should be good. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, gobills404 said:

The amount of times I’ve already heard “the Bills don’t have good run game outside of Josh Allen” is mind boggling. I’ve never seen so many media members come to such a strong consensus on something that is so blatantly wrong.

 

1. Cook and Singletary are both over 5 yards per carry during this 8 game win streak.

2. Even if it was true, so what? The Bills DO have Josh Allen and he IS a big boost to an already solid ground attack. 

They said we wouldn’t be able to run on cincy because of DJ Reader and we had 30+ rushing yards on our first drive lol.

 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Low Positive]

Who Dey? The Buffalo Bills, that’s who.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

1 hour ago, gobills404 said:

The amount of times I’ve already heard “the Bills don’t have good run game outside of Josh Allen” is mind boggling. I’ve never seen so many media members come to such a strong consensus on something that is so blatantly wrong.

 

1. Cook and Singletary are both over 5 yards per carry during this 8 game win streak.

2. Even if it was true, so what? The Bills DO have Josh Allen and he IS a big boost to an already solid ground attack. 

 

  To the opening part of your comment, I agree, I hear it all the time and I keep thinking IF that's true why are other teams being let off the hook for the same thing?

 

 To the part about Devin and Cook, I agree. Not only are they averaging over 5 ypc over the last 8 games, combined they are averaging 5 ypc(4.98) on the season.

 

 To the last part, I also agree. 6 out of the top 7 rushing teams this year got major help from the QB position. Atlanta had the least amount of rushing yards by their QBs out of those 6 teams, but it was still over 500 yards.

 

 Going back to the first part again. The sentiment that we struggle to run the ball outside of Allen always bothers me because it's simply not true. It's not that we can't run effectively, it's we choose not to. I dug into the numbers and this is what I came up with for the remaining 8 teams.

 

Rushing YPG outside the QB position

 

1.) 49ers - 131.47 - 441 carries 

2.) Cowboys - 124.12 - 477 carries 

3.) Jaguars  - 106.8 - 386 carries 

4.) Eagles - 102.7 - 362 carries 

5.) Giants - 100.0 - 388 carries 

6 ) Chiefs  - 94.9 - 356 carries 

7.) Bills - 91.8 - 301 carries 

8.) Bengals - 79.44 - 321 carries 

 

Why do the Bengals get a pass on this? Imo ypc mean way more when determining if a team can run or not. Here's the ypc list, once again without QB rushing numbers.

 

  YPC

 

1.)  49ers - 5.07

2.)  Bills - 4.88

3.)  Eagles - 4.82

4.)  Jaguars - 4.70

5.)  Chiefs - 4.53

6.)  Cowboys - 4.42

7.)  Giants - 4.37

8.)  Bengals - 3.96

 

Conclusion the Bengals suck at running the ball. GO BILLS!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Listening to 1530 AM Cincy now:

 

1. They’re banking on Josh Allen turnovers (and the assumption that Burrow won’t have any). 
 

2. They summarize the Ravens game as just a great defense, and the Bills don’t have that level of defense. 
 

Bills should have all their “nobody is scared of them” weapons - McKenzie will be back, John Brown will be up, I think we’ll get Crowder back. 

Bulletin board material for Josh Allen and Leslie Frazier

37 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

From prior to the cancelled game

Playaction is moot if the Bills don't try to run the ball 🤷

[Beck Water]

30 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I feel like his shoulder is not going to be fixed til the offseason - the way he was completely one-arming everything a couple weeks ago I think it is still going to severely limit him now - hopefully he can at least plug some things up 

 

That's where I am.   I don't think this is something that's gonna heal up quickly for Phillips

 

Milano was at one point "one arming" it with a partially torn pec.  He came back, but the Bills shut him down with IR (was 3 games at the time), then worked him back in with a "snap count"

 

[Senth]

Light em up!!!!!!

[gobills404]

 

[Goin Breakdown]

4 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

Do we think buffalo will rush only 3?  I'm honestly asking. 

[billsbackto81]

On 1/15/2023 at 11:26 PM, arcane said:

Like many of you, I feel quite a bit more reassured that the Bengals aren't some super team to be afraid of. They are certainly good, certainly capable of beating the Bills or the Chiefs. But they aren't special. 

 

If we can get through this one, Jacksonville's defense is going to have a better chance of taking down KC than the Ravens would. 

 

If we can get the Bills except for the ones that played those 4 consecutive drives to sandwich halftime, we will win this game by two scores. If we get too much of those halftime bills, we will lose by two scores

1. It's all about match ups, plus rivals that you've played 2X already always adds to the challenge.

 

2. I don't believe the Jags D is significantly better if at all better than the Ravens.

 

3. I'd be beyond pleased if we won by 2 scores but I don't think it'll happen. This should be a tough win if we come out on top.

[SWATeam]

5 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Do we think buffalo will rush only 3?  I'm honestly asking. 

No, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that.  
 

there are times we drop a lineman, but usually when we bring pressure from elsewhere.