Chicagobills Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 This dude can play and we all knew it. Why wasn’t he given an opportunity? 10 13 1 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Because Kumerow. And that was a big mistake in hindsight. 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Because Kumerow. And that was a big mistake in hindsight. Fun fact, Aaron Rodgers loves Kumerow 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbrellaMan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Wyatt Teller still is the worst, but Hodgins is moving up the list. 7 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: This dude can play and we all knew it. Why wasn’t he given an opportunity? Good for him but he would have gotten limited opportunities here. Always could end up like Foster here tho too next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, UmbrellaMan said: Wyatt Teller still is the worst, but Hodgins is moving up the list. Both bad evaluations 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: This dude can play and we all knew it. Why wasn’t he given an opportunity? This will get merged Im sure…but it was definitely a mistake assuming the Giants would keep skipping over Hodgins on the waiver wire. Daboll knew as well as anyone what that young man is capable of. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The powers that be couldn’t see beyond special teams, and ending up losing a young WR with size and a lot of potential. 4 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. 1 7 5 5 7 3 5 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, UmbrellaMan said: Wyatt Teller still is the worst, but Hodgins is moving up the list. Fans knew Hodgins could play though. I don’t recall what the fan sentiment was on Teller when he was here. Was he a guy that just turned a corner once he left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: The powers that be couldn’t see beyond special teams, and ending up losing a young WR with size and a lot of potential. Talent and heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. Why do you follow the Bills? 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Teller is the one that hurts after watching Allen run for his life all day. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Because Kumerow. And that was a big mistake in hindsight. Ahem. It was a big mistake at the time, Kumerow is yet another teams guy that can't hack at his day job, like Formosa Jones or Siran Wrap. Too many of those guys, not enough regular contributors. Anyway, doesn't matter, Dorkey was never gonna use Hodgins in the big slot role we were calling for at the time and which he is now killing it. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. Then why was the offense statistically better with far fewer "bad" games this year than last year under Daboll? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Crazy thing to me about Hodgins is that the guy couldn't stay healthy for more than 5 minutes his entire time with the Bills. Who knew he could even stay in a game long enough to have a good game. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I suppose we cant just be happy for his success? 7 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Hodgins truly has made the most of his opportunity. I'm happy for the guy. He wouldn't have been seeing the same usage here though. He's in a great spot where he can be featured. Good for him, Dabs, and the G-men 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. I’ve wondered the exact same thing. Wonder if we kept the wrong guy?? Edited January 16, 2023 by Baba Booey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srw1525 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Kumerow was a special team ace which is why the Bills choose him over Hodgins. Hodgins couldn’t play special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 If the Bills had Hodgins today, he would be on the field in place of Shakir getting 2-3 targets. He still wouldn't be unseating Davis as the #2. I'm happy he's getting a real shot in NY after all of those years on IR. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I suppose we cant just be happy for his success? You can be happy for his success while also questioning why this staff couldn’t see the talent in the guy. He is shining. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Ahem. It was a big mistake at the time, Kumerow is yet another teams guy that can't hack at his day job, like Formosa Jones or Siran Wrap. Too many of those guys, not enough regular contributors. Anyway, doesn't matter, Dorkey was never gonna use Hodgins in the big slot role we were calling for at the time and which he is now killing it. Huh… Given your clear skill at this selecting clever nicknames, I’m curious if your favorite color is orange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Well...both of Hodgins big games came against Minnesota. 8 for 105 and a TD today and 8 for 89 and a TD in the regular season. In all other games he never had more than 44 yards receiving. So it appears something specifically against the Vikings allows him to be much more effective than normal. Since they don't play the Vikings every week, that doesn't bode well for him normally. Edited January 16, 2023 by Big Turk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Srw1525 said: Kumerow was a special team ace which is why the Bills choose him over Hodgins. Hodgins couldn’t play special teams. How many ST “aces” do you need? You can probably count one one hand the number of game changing plays by their other ST “aces”, Jones and Matelkevich. Edited January 16, 2023 by LabattBlue 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The powers that be couldn’t see beyond special teams, and ending up losing a young WR with size and a lot of potential. the issue was he was behind receivers on the depth chart. He was plucked from the PS by a former asst GM and OC. Buffalo has a few draft picks either off if waiver or taking from the PS. this will happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoNVBillsfan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I’ve been a Hodgins fan for 2 years. All he does is catch the ball consistently and more often for 1st downs. He was better than Kumerow, McKenzie, Beasley, Brown and dare I say Gabe Davis until this Dolphin game. Others should’ve been cut before this talent. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. Spot. On. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: This dude can play and we all knew it. Why wasn’t he given an opportunity? We've only got so many roster spots. Who's spot is he taking and who is he playing over on the field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: This dude can play and we all knew it. Why wasn’t he given an opportunity? Ummmm…he couldn’t stay healthy? Yes, ideally it would be great to have him but the Bills did nothing wrong here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. I disagree, McD has earned the right to coach this team. But i’d be lying if I said I didn’t wonder what Daboll would have done with this team. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicagobills Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I suppose we cant just be happy for his success? Umm I am happy for him but wish his success was with Buffalo? Weird comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, RenoNVBillsfan said: I’ve been a Hodgins fan for 2 years. All he does is catch the ball consistently and more often for 1st downs. He was better than Kumerow, McKenzie, Beasley, Brown and dare I say Gabe Davis until this Dolphin game. Others should’ve been cut before this talent. All he did for Buffalo was get injured. Good for him now, but, in Buffalo productivity relies on availability and he was never available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Aye yi yi. 🤪 Where's Brandon Reilly? How about Chris Hogan?! Da'Rick Rodgers? Robert Foster? Crap happens. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. Why did the sign him earlier in the season when hodgins was on the bills ps? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Well...both of Hodgins big games came against Minnesota. 8 for 105 and a TD today and 8 for 89 and a TD in the regular season. In all other games he never had more than 44 yards receiving. So it appears something specifically against the Vikings allows him to be much more effective than normal. Since they don't play the Vikings every week, that doesn't bode well for him normally. Could it be the Vikings lack of defense? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Then why was the offense statistically better with far fewer "bad" games this year than last year under Daboll? These guys are in full rant mode. Don't confuse them with facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: I disagree, McD has earned the right to coach this team. But i’d be lying if I said I didn’t wonder what Daboll would have done with this team. No he hasn't, that's a joke. Guy has fallen flat on his face every playoff. This is the man that benched his starting QB for Nate Peterman. Great culture builder, but game day and scheme are two very different things than workplace culture. Some coordinators fail as coaches because they can't get the house in order culture wise. Unfortunately, we got the culture builder that is not a Chamionship caliber coach when it comes to Xs and Os and gameday. Hamlin situation was bad but it does not give the coach a get out of jail free card for his repetitive shortcomings and failures in postseason. Sorry but its the truth. Edited January 16, 2023 by ArtVandalay 3 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, ArtVandalay said: No he hasn't, that's a joke. Guy has fallen flat on his face every playoff. This is the man that benched his starting QB for Nate Peterman. Great culture builder, but game day and scheme are two very different things than workplace culture. Some coordinators fail as coaches because they can't get the house in order culture wise. Unfortunately, we got the culture builder that is not a Chamionship caliber coach when it comes to Xs and Os and gameday. So what do you want to happen? Rightly or wrongly, dude will be HC for at least the next 3 seasons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 43 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown, 13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. Daboll could have had him on our active roster here last year and the years before and didn’t. It’s a numbers game. Good for the young man to take advantage of an opportunity he couldn’t get here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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