H2o Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, mannc said: How will that help Justin Fields? And at any rate, the Bears still could get Anderson with the 4th pick… Already said #4 was about as much sense as I could make from moving down. I don't think he makes it to #4 though, not unless he bombs the athletic testing (which he won't) or something pops up on the medicals. He would end up with the highlighted team below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, H2o said: Already said #4 was about as much sense as I could make from moving down. I don't think he makes it to #4 though, not unless he bombs the athletic testing (which he won't) or something pops up on the medicals. He would end up with the highlighted team below: Jalen Carter would be a reasonable consolation prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Yeah too bad he wasnt able to get a talent like Mahomes and had to go against guys like Jarrett Stidham, Treyvone boykins and Baker Mayfield Too bad it takes more than just a QB to win in college? There’s 120 kids on a roster Yeah he had a good quarterback… And then not much for 119 kids Oklahoma’s roster 1 through 120 is much better than Texas techs… TCU roster 1-120 much better kingsbury has 8 players drafted in 6 years ..TCU had 15 That trash Baker Mayfield who has the highest efficiency in college football history… In the same time kingsbury sent 6 to the NFL OU sent 31… 6<31 That’s why he didn’t win Edited January 9, 2023 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Too bad it takes more than just a QB to win in college? There’s 120 kids on a roster Yeah he had a good quarterback… And then not much for 119 kids Oklahoma’s roster 1 through 120 is much better than Texas techs… TCU roster 1-120 much better kingsbury has 8 players drafted in 6 years ..TCU had 15 That trash Baker Mayfield who has the highest efficiency in college football history… In the same time kingsbury sent 6 to the NFL OU sent 31… 6<31 That’s why he didn’t win Hes not a great coach. That has been demonstrated. Blame it on whatever you would like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Hes not a great coach. That has been demonstrated. Blame it on whatever you would like Don’t think I ever said he was a great coach … not once? I said it’s easier for any team … College or pro’s… To hire a guy on the rise and not a retread It’s easier to sell to your fans But all I did was prove that it is very hard to win at Texas Tech compared to other big 12 schools… Because they don’t recruit well It’s all about situation’s in football Baker Mayfield was on that Texas tech team… Texas Tech wasn’t gonna win 12 games or a Heisman with Baker Mayfield… Just like they didnt with Mahomes But Baker goes to a good school and wins every award possible while winning 11-12 games a year Because Oklahoma has a lot of NFL talent… And tech doesn’t … At the end of the day that is the difference Tech is no powerhouse Mike leach is a wizard for what he did Edited January 9, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Virgil said: I would want nothing to do with that job. Watt leaving, Murray is a man-child with a dumb contract, just a team built for one goal that will pry need to be torn down to make room for any other system. They really put all their eggs in the Kingsbury/Murray basket Cliff walks away with 30 mil$ , so someone will grab their shot at the lottery. Unbelievable how much money losing coaches walk away with ! I wonder if any owner ever has the Ba$$s to go back in time with a new or young coach , and offer them the chance to earn that type of money based on winning and culture development. What incentive do these young coaches have to actual,y develop a long term strategy when example after example has losing coaches walking away with guaranteed generational wealth. Another example of how rare Mcd / Beane are and how fortunate Buffalo is to have found a true gem. Cliffy will be partying in the pool now , free of the drama he created, and posting his sorrows on Instagram ! The owners I guess don’t worry as the NFL keeps printing money , but it sure would be a story to follow if they reset this ridiculous coaching market. All that money; Cliffy, Murray, oft injured wr man hopkins, steroid bro JJ watt , all.for how many wins? Seems ridiculous when you look at it from the outside. 😊. It’s fun watching the old NFL days on YouTube when teams like the Steelers were assembled in the 60’s/ 70’s and it seemed like they played because they enjoyed football in those days ; not to collect their “ bag”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Lefleur should be fired. Between the Packers player walking in between the lines of scrimmage during the FG attempt and grabbing the ball from the center, and later another couple of players shoving Lions training staff it's like they were all on something. Totally out of control team that wasted some of the best seasons of Rodgers career Edited January 10, 2023 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, That's No Moon said: How many years in a row has he promised a thorough review of the team? 3? Feel free to have a completely incompetent offense Bill. None of us mind. Matt Patricia for life. How long until we can sign Dugger away from them? Good. Let Kraft keep that dinosaur forever. That team is not going to get better until they blow it up and start getting some good draft picks with a GM that is worth his salt. Belichick 2023 process - hire Bill O'Brien back to be his OC again. Process complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I'm glad to hear that Kliff will now be able to spend his time solely focusing on his abs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: So, 2 seasons of Hard Knocks-In Season and 2 head coaches fired. Nobody is going to want to do that show in the future. This season with Arizona also featured a lot of GM Heim, who’s on personal leave but they’re saying he’s likely not invited back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Kliff Kingsbury kanned! Kalamity kry kiddies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, FLFan said: Kliff Kingsbury kanned! Kalamity kry kiddies! Krazy Kat approves of this posting. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Bad Things said: I'm glad to hear that Kliff will now be able to spend his time solely focusing on his abs. I suspect he will be doing more push-ins than sit-ups. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Beck Water said: I musta missed these. What were they? My bad. I could have been more clear. I was referencing his post game comments about not knowing they could be eliminated from post season play after the loss to CLE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Does anyone think this is a good idea? (Giving Murray significant input into the next head coach selection - not just “talk to these guys, give us your impressions” but input?) 4 hours ago, Bad Things said: I'm glad to hear that Kliff will now be able to spend his time solely focusing on his abs. To be fair, he might focus on his wife too, or is she his GF? 4 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: Lefleur should be fired. Between the Packers player walking in between the lines of scrimmage during the FG attempt and grabbing the ball from the center, and later another couple of players shoving Lions training staff it's like they were all on something. Totally out of control team that wasted some of the best seasons of Rodgers career What the hell was that about, can anyone explain to me? I can’t blame LaFleur for having a player who can’t control himself when he’s triggered…these guys are all walking a fine line with control. We’ve had 2 players here who struggled with it during their careers, Incognito and Jerry Hughes. Edited January 10, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 So did the Titans fire everyone except their HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 21 hours ago, DCofNC said: That was a crippling move, so bad for the team to lose the #1. You have to truly hate the organization to be that selfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 12 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: Lefleur should be fired. Between the Packers player walking in between the lines of scrimmage during the FG attempt and grabbing the ball from the center, and later another couple of players shoving Lions training staff it's like they were all on something. Totally out of control team that wasted some of the best seasons of Rodgers career He will be gone after next year. Rodgers will force his way out and the team will go 4-13 without him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I am not sure if this should be taken as Gase reacting to Edwards' words, or as "I'll see your Edwards, and raise you a Gase." 🤔 Edited January 10, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: He will be gone after next year. Rodgers will force his way out and the team will go 4-13 without him. The more I think of it, the more I think Rodgers demanding such an insanely expensive contract was simply a power move. He's wanted out for a couple years but Green Bay is in this weird spot where they don't want to build around him and win but they don't want him going somewhere else either. It puts him in this position: let me go or pay me $50 million next year but I'm not retiring. IMO the Green Bay thing became deeply personal, and everyone dug in. MGT wanted Rodgers to retire and Rodgers wanted out. MGT refused because then they would go 3-14 while Rodgers played at an MVP level somewhere else. So, force the guy to retire instead was the strategy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 How does “Riverboat Ron” still have a job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 1:28 PM, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think Chicago takes a QB. The new regime doesn’t seem to have much faith in Fields as a QB and he was terrible this season. If Chicago wants to select a QB they can probably get a reasonable return on Fields. Not sure what that is, but, maybe a 2nd rounder. Maybe a even a 1st after the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: How does “Riverboat Ron” still have a job? Got them to the playoffs year one and has kept them competitive with hot garbage at QB. My guess is they clear space by cutting Wentz and go after one of the better QBs who will be available in free agency. Gets one more year to see what he can do with someone like Derek Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Manther said: If Chicago wants to select a QB they can probably get a reasonable return on Fields. Not sure what that is, but, maybe a 2nd rounder. Maybe a even a 1st after the top 10. If the Ravens and Lamar don't work out a deal, thats one that makes sense. I wouldn't want Fields, but Harbaugh could make it work 15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: How does “Riverboat Ron” still have a job? Ownership is in flux. Hes gone next year barring a massive improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Manther said: If Chicago wants to select a QB they can probably get a reasonable return on Fields. Not sure what that is, but, maybe a 2nd rounder. Maybe an even a 1st after the top 10. Just look at all the teams that need a QB. Fields would fetch more than that. I’d love to see him in a Shanahan style offense - but not in Miami please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Mike LaFleur out with the Jets...kinda surprising... On 1/9/2023 at 7:16 PM, TheFunPolice said: Lefleur should be fired. Between the Packers player walking in between the lines of scrimmage during the FG attempt and grabbing the ball from the center, and later another couple of players shoving Lions training staff it's like they were all on something. Totally out of control team that wasted some of the best seasons of Rodgers career His brother was just fired with the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Mike LaFleur out with the Jets...kinda surprising... His brother was just fired with the Jets. Conflicting reports, people are saying he isn't fire. God I hate the jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Got them to the playoffs year one and has kept them competitive with hot garbage at QB. My guess is they clear space by cutting Wentz and go after one of the better QBs who will be available in free agency. Gets one more year to see what he can do with someone like Derek Carr. The awfulness of the NFC got him to the playoffs (with a 7-9 record). He has zero winning seasons there. he has 3 winning seasons in a 12 year HC career. He rode Cam Newton into the ground with 3 playoff wins to show for it. 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: If the Ravens and Lamar don't work out a deal, thats one that makes sense. I wouldn't want Fields, but Harbaugh could make it work Ownership is in flux. Hes gone next year barring a massive improvement lol Carr is gonna be the guy who makes Ron into a relevant coach again? Like Wentz? Look at who Rivera has brought in at QB: Wentz, Heinicke, Garrett Gilbert, Kyle Allen, Sam Howell, and Fitzy (the best of that bunch). So now all he is really missing is a guy like Carr, a guy who has burned through a bunch of HCs. nah.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Bandito said: He took an extemely horrible offense and made them competitve. Defense is very good see above. "competitive" is almost a meaningless term in the NFC. Tampa is in the playoffs (that's competitive!)---actually winning their division with a losing record. Packers were facing a "win and you're in" game with only 8 wins. The 9-8 Seahawks (led by Geno Smith!!!) got in courtesy of Detroit (9-7) beating an awful Aaron Rodgers and his DOA Packer team (in 'Legendary Lambeau Field"). Washing stinks. Ron is long past his freshness date. He's a relic and those kind of guys are only still around if they were game changers/SB winners. Even some of them (BB) are pretty much done. Riverboat Ron brings nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The awfulness of the NFC got him to the playoffs (with a 7-9 record). He has zero winning seasons there. he has 3 winning seasons in a 12 year HC career. He rode Cam Newton into the ground with 3 playoff wins to show for it. lol Carr is gonna be the guy who makes Ron into a relevant coach again? Like Wentz? Look at who Rivera has brought in at QB: Wentz, Heinicke, Garrett Gilbert, Kyle Allen, Sam Howell, and Fitzy (the best of that bunch). So now all he is really missing is a guy like Carr, a guy who has burned through a bunch of HCs. nah.. I was referring to fields. Carr is done so I hope the Jets sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: I was referring to fields. Carr is done so I hope the Jets sign him sorry man--I clicked yours instead of thenorthremembers who mentioned Carr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Manther said: If Chicago wants to select a QB they can probably get a reasonable return on Fields. Not sure what that is, but, maybe a 2nd rounder. Maybe a even a 1st after the top 10. Chicago needs to hire Jim Caldwell as HC to work with Fields. Trade the first pick to get more assets to fix the offensive line and get Fields a passing weapon. Either best WR or TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 So, that's it? Kingsbury and Smith as the only HCs fires after the season? Seems a little surprising to me. Also, no mention on Patricia being fired as OC in NE? Or did I miss separate thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 9:48 PM, Mr. WEO said: How does “Riverboat Ron” still have a job? Dysfunctional franchise. 8 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: So, that's it? Kingsbury and Smith as the only HCs fires after the season? Seems a little surprising to me. Also, no mention on Patricia being fired as OC in NE? Or did I miss separate thread? He isn't OC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 18 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Just look at all the teams that need a QB. Fields would fetch more than that. I’d love to see him in a Shanahan style offense - but not in Miami please. Hahahaha fields can’t read a defense to save his life Please hitch your wagon to him Miami Lmaooo 5 more years of mediocrity 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Chicago needs to hire Jim Caldwell as HC to work with Fields. Trade the first pick to get more assets to fix the offensive line and get Fields a passing weapon. Either best WR or TE lol....say what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: lol....say what?? Weo, Caldwell has a winning record as a HC in the NFL. Worked with winning, All-Pro QBs (Manning, Stafford). Has panache in the NFL. Not that funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: So, that's it? Kingsbury and Smith as the only HCs fires after the season? Seems a little surprising to me. Also, no mention on Patricia being fired as OC in NE? Or did I miss separate thread? It is surprising. Possibly another couple to trickle in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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