78thealltimegreat Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) After yesterday they passed the Green Bay Packers for most dropped passes by unit. Part of this maybe weather, how hard Josh throws, or maybe it is just they are street level free agent talented. I really don’t want this to be the reason they don’t win the Super Bowl but man these guys should lock themselves on like a jugs machine. Edited December 12, 2022 by 78thealltimegreat 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Which is crazy given how much attention was given to the Green Bay drop issues... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Would love a link but doesn't surprise me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: After yesterday they passed the Green Bay Packers for most dropped passes by unit. Part of this maybe weather, how hard Josh throws, or maybe it is just they are street level free agent talented. I really don’t want this to be the reason they don’t win the Super Bowl but man these guys should lock themselves on like a jugs machine. Have to agree, they need to get this fixed. This team isn’t winning a Super Bowl by increasing the workload for Singletary or Cook. They need to get back to a high powered passing offense that cranks our first downs, rarely punts and mixes in back breaking Josh Allen runs. That’s the formula that will get them a Lombardi. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Crap weather people....there's your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Crap weather people....there's your answer. Lol. Sarcasm? We've played in rain twice this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Big reason Josh is at 63.8 completion percentage. Outside of Diggs no one makes tough catches. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Crap weather people....there's your answer. Didn't seem to bother the Jets. White was getting killed out there, even had to leave the game twice, and still passed for 268. Meanwhile, Josh had a season low 147. Edited December 12, 2022 by Billz4ever 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Big reason Josh is at 63.8 completion percentage. Outside of Diggs no one makes tough catches. Gabe did earlier in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: After yesterday they passed the Green Bay Packers for most dropped passes by unit. Part of this maybe weather, how hard Josh throws, or maybe it is just they are street level free agent talented. I really don’t want this to be the reason they don’t win the Super Bowl but man these guys should lock themselves on like a jugs machine. Link? Numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, SCBills said: Which is crazy given how much attention was given to the Green Bay drop issues... Thankfully Josh doesn't have Rodgers personality so we don't hear him in the media throwing his team under the bus every week on every podcast that will have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Gabe did earlier in the season Gabe can prove the naysayers wrong, there's still time... but he seems like a one trick pony. His best play is to run deep and just throw it up to him...he's usually good at making a play on the ball and coming down with it ( except the end of the game at NYJ). He's not particularly fast or shifty on the short stuff. One of his best plays was finding open space at New England last week and giving Allen an outlet for the TD. And he does drop some balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Link? Numbers? Give him time to manufacture data. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Would love a link but doesn't surprise me Also would like a link of all the drops too. Not every drop is created the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 This is the best I’ve found but it doesn’t include this weeks games. http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 Green Bay had a bye. So if we had 2 drops last game, we passed them. It would be on the teams tier or below us to match us this week. Either way, we drop way too many passes. That’s obvious 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Give him time to manufacture data. No I don’t work for Isiah McKenzies agent like yourself apparently but here to make you happy http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, zow2 said: Gabe can prove the naysayers wrong, there's still time... but he seems like a one trick pony. His best play is to run deep and just throw it up to him...he's usually good at making a play on the ball and coming down with it ( except the end of the game at NYJ). He's not particularly fast or shifty on the short stuff. One of his best plays was finding open space at New England last week and giving Allen an outlet for the TD. And he does drop some balls. That's not even true. Last season he caught multiple crossing routes and multiple deep outs along the boundary. Yesterday he had a 20 yard reception on a stop route that was perfectly executed. He's more than just a deep shot guy. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Sorry, I'm lazy, but is there a site that tracks drops game by game? I have a theory that the rise in drops coincided with Josh having to re-tool his throwing motion to minimize pain after he got hurt. Changes in velocity disrupt timing. Of course, I could just be talking out of my ass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said: That's not even true. Last season he caught multiple crossing routes and multiple deep outs along the boundary. Yesterday he had a 20 yard reception on a stop route that was perfectly executed. He's more than just a deep shot guy. The thing is the book is now out on him just ask Patrick Peterson after the Vikings game but that more be the offensive philosophy as a whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) We got an updated chart including the games from yesterday? Lil Dirty wants it... Edited December 12, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: The thing is the book is now out on him just ask Patrick Peterson after the Vikings game but that more be the offensive philosophy as a whole That's not Davis that was on the play caller. Davis doesn't determine if he is running a skinny post in the red-zone Dorsey does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, BRH said: Sorry, I'm lazy, but is there a site that tracks drops game by game? I have a theory that the rise in drops coincided with Josh having to re-tool his throwing motion to minimize pain after he got hurt. Changes in velocity disrupt timing. Of course, I could just be talking out of my ass. Nah I think this is definitely the issue. Josh does not make a lot of off angle throws lately. He clearly doesn't trust his arm like he normally does. Not surprising considering his injury. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) The fact that Miami (Hill, Waddle), Chiefs (Kelce, Smith-Schuster, Valdez-Scantling), Chargers (Ekeler, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen), Bucs (Mike Evans, Chris Godwin) are on there within 1 or 2 drops doesn't have anyone thinking twice about attributing this to the talent of the WRs? Yes, our guys drop the ball sometimes and need to work on it, but it isn't because they can't catch. Edited December 12, 2022 by What a Tuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, What a Tuel said: The fact that Miami, Chiefs, Chargers, Bucs are on there within 1 or 2 drops doesn't have anyone thinking twice about attributing this to the talent of the WRs? Yes, our guys drop the ball sometimes and need to work on it, but it isn't because they can't catch. All these teams are high-frequency pass teams, but I'd like to see a "drops per pass" stat. The Bears and Falcons are down near the bottom in drops, but they don't throw often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Wtf is Isaiah doing? He has a bad game and is now being defensive. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Gabe did earlier in the season Davis is 38 of 71 = 54% catch rate. 3rd lowest in the league. According to below Davis & Diggs lead the league in dropped passes. 3rd link has us 2nd to GB in dropped passes. Interesting Phins are 3rd & KC is 5th. Who Has The Lowest Catch Percentage Among Wide Receivers | StatMuse https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who-has-the-lowest-catch-percentage-among-wide-receivers https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: Wtf is Isaiah doing? He has a bad game and is now being defensive. These guys need to get off Twitter 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Gabe did earlier in the season Yeah but where’s Gabe now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Looks like they only credited the Bills with 5 from yesterday...that's being generous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: That's not even true. Last season he caught multiple crossing routes and multiple deep outs along the boundary. Yesterday he had a 20 yard reception on a stop route that was perfectly executed. He's more than just a deep shot guy. His rookie year he was the toe drag swag champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: No I don’t work for Isiah McKenzies agent like yourself apparently but here to make you happy http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 That reminds me his agent still has not paid the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: His rookie year he was the toe drag swag champion. Maybe Allen should start throwing balls to him on the boundary just out of bounds and force him to think about his feet instead of his hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Need to upgrade the Wrs next year, been feeling that way most of the year, especially watching other games, other teams WRs. Our unit outside of Diggs is poor. Its amazing Allen has overcome it honestly 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Have to agree, they need to get this fixed. This team isn’t winning a Super Bowl by increasing the workload for Singletary or Cook. They need to get back to a high powered passing offense that cranks our first downs, rarely punts and mixes in back breaking Josh Allen runs. That’s the formula that will get them a Lombardi. Need good recievers to accomplish that. Bills only have 1 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Crap weather people....there's your answer. Same excuse, the weather excuse only works when it affects everyone. Jets wr had no problem catching it early on, but I guess it was just bad weather when the Bills had the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Feels like Isaiah drops about as many as he catches, but that’s probably wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Didn't seem to bother the Jets. White was getting killed out there, even had to leave the game twice, and still passed for 268. Meanwhile, Josh had a season low 147. And 1 win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, Freak-O said: Feels like Isaiah drops about as many as he catches, but that’s probably wrong. Or helps the other team catch them like in the Rams game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Also would like a link of all the drops too. Not every drop is created the same. A link of the drops? Hint every team has variables, with all variables considered amongst 32 teams the Bills WRs are the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Yeah and it's hurting us. Need to fix this ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Davis is curious. He used to be the king of the tough catch. This year he really has struggled. Mckenzie always has had poor hands. Shakir too small sample size. Knox, better but still an issue at times. Singletary struggles. Bottom line: WR top priority next off-season, followed VERY closely by O line. Other than maybe safety I don't want to see a defensive pick until at least the 5th rd!! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Here's the one up to last week. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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