TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Our DL is coached horribly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Saw nothing good from our d-line today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Serious question that I’m too lazy to dig on. Did Groot have any sacks after Von went down? He had 5 in 7 games with him and 3 in 5 games without him. So, he actually had a better rate without him. Still trying to figure out how 8 sacks in 14 games is elite. Including a whopping 3 tackles and no sacks in two playoff games. Thats just me though. Meanwhile the lone elite player that had on their defense this year, who just happens to be a linebacker had 3 sacks in 2 playoff games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: He had 5 in 7 games with him and 3 in 5 games without him. So, he actually had a better rate without him. Still trying to figure out how 8 sacks in 14 games is elite. Including a whopping 3 tackles and no sacks in two playoff games. Thats just me though. Meanwhile the lone elite player that had on their defense this year, who just happens to be a linebacker had 3 sacks in 2 playoff games. Rousseau is not elite. He's borderline rotational. AJE and Boogie will not be extended. We have to pray Von stays healthy next season. Our DL is in trouble. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Lots of Groot talk. But the amount of draft and cap capital spent on the DL is insane. The bill is now due. AJE, Harrison Philips, Basham, Rousseau, Oliver. All picked in the top 100. I was as psyched as anybody for the Von signing. But that also meant we were paying top 5 money for another player who was supposed to get after the QB after spend 6 top 100 picks on them with no results. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Serious question that I’m too lazy to dig on. Did Groot have any sacks after Von went down? 3 sacks and a forced fumble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Rousseau is not elite. He's borderline rotational. AJE and Boogie will not be extended. We have to pray Von stays healthy next season. Our DL is in trouble. This is actually a major issue. We won’t have any DE’s on the roster and we don’t have any money with a ton of holes at other position groups that needs to be addressed through the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We don't know WHAT we have until Frazier is replaced. Singling our Rousseau is counterproductive and ridiculous. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mango said: This is actually a major issue. We won’t have any DE’s on the roster and we don’t have any money with a ton of holes at other position groups that needs to be addressed through the draft. This is going to be said for the entire roster. I think there could be a real chance the overall roster is weaker next year. We could lose some key guys to FA. Not be active signing in FA. And we GOT TO hit on some draft picks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: This is going to be said for the entire roster. I think there could be a real chance the overall roster is weaker next year. We could lose some key guys to FA. Not be active signing in FA. And we GOT TO hit on some draft picks We have something like 23 UFA and are $10M over the cap next year. We’ll have to borrow from the future just to put a team on the field next year. This staff will have to hit on their top 100 picks and get them starting immediately next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Can we not trash Groot? He’s the only DL that has actually shown something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: We don't know WHAT we have until Frazier is replaced. Singling our Rousseau is counterproductive and ridiculous. Problem with this is this is the defense the HC wants to run. You can cut Frazier, but it really won't solve a problem. Its just scapegoating 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I'll cut Rousseau some slack. His ceiling was always going to come in year 3. He took off an entire year from football and only started 15 games in college. It is not a surprise that he hit the wall late in his sophomore season. Teams can double/chip him with Von out of the picture. He was forced into too many snaps because of that injury. I still see Rousseau as a foundational piece of this defense. He and Milano are the only two that I see as 100% long-term starters here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Can we not trash Groot? He’s the only DL that has actually shown something. He forgot to show something today VS great value O Lineman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I don't know if Groot won a single rep today. Our DL looked like they were part of an offensive walk-thru, just doing their part by getting in their gap, & letting the OL block them to walk thru the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, Mango said: Lots of Groot talk. But the amount of draft and cap capital spent on the DL is insane. The bill is now due. AJE, Harrison Philips, Basham, Rousseau, Oliver. All picked in the top 100. I was as psyched as anybody for the Von signing. But that also meant we were paying top 5 money for another player who was supposed to get after the QB after spend 6 top 100 picks on them with no results. The Von Miller pick was validation that McDermott screwed up on the previous 6 failed DL picks. Whoever is scouting your DL you might want to dismiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 He might be the second best player Beane’s drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Billl said: He might be the second best player Beane’s drafted. Which is alarmingly bad . Where was kc rb Pacheco drafted. That dude can play. Cook is a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicagobills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Elite at what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dan in Owego said: You want sacks then quit giving damn near 10 yard cushions, also didn't many stunts or twists either I about lost my mind when we lined up to blitz on third down and had our CBs 10 yards off the line. Easy throw for a first by Burrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: Elite at what? Don’t know. I always thought he had a decent bull rush. And he was Surprisingly decent at stopping the run early on. But he could not and I don’t think ever will be an immediate win as a rusher / has no moves or counters. And if he’s the top End (Von not there) he gets completely erased by other team. I always thought it was weird that all beane could say about him after the pick “he just made plays , couldn’t put my finger on it, he’s long” ok eye roll. then you watch his highlights and he’s just diving at college qbs after play breaks down 4+ seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'll cut Rousseau some slack. His ceiling was always going to come in year 3. He took off an entire year from football and only started 15 games in college. It is not a surprise that he hit the wall late in his sophomore season. Teams can double/chip him with Von out of the picture. He was forced into too many snaps because of that injury. I still see Rousseau as a foundational piece of this defense. He and Milano are the only two that I see as 100% long-term starters here. Funny how you didn’t mention that until after year 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I about lost my mind when we lined up to blitz on third down and had our CBs 10 yards off the line. Easy throw for a first by Burrow. Truly baffling, Eunuch like coaching from our DC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Billl said: He might be the second best player Beane’s drafted. Wyatt Teller the best? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 So many wasted defensive picks. I’d rather invest everything into offense 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicagobills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 He’s the last guy we should be blaming. Kid has a bright future 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) The Bills best D lineman this season was Shaq Lawson. Epenessa needs upgraded Edited January 23, 2023 by pigpen65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, balln said: Which is alarmingly bad . Where was kc rb Pacheco drafted. That dude can play. Cook is a joke 7th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Mango said: Lots of Groot talk. But the amount of draft and cap capital spent on the DL is insane. The bill is now due. AJE, Harrison Philips, Basham, Rousseau, Oliver. All picked in the top 100. I was as psyched as anybody for the Von signing. But that also meant we were paying top 5 money for another player who was supposed to get after the QB after spend 6 top 100 picks on them with no results. And who knows what von will be next year.. dude is old and coming off he’s second née injury. And probably want be ready until the end of next year. So yea that contract isn’t looking so good right now. Buffalo brought him end to win it this year, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 hours ago, Agent 91 said: Problem with this is this is the defense the HC wants to run. You can cut Frazier, but it really won't solve a problem. Its just scapegoating Well then McDermott is risking being fired then as he should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnNord Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I think Rosseau has turned out to be a solid starting DE so far. He’s good against the run and is able to generate a pass rush. I’m not thinking he’s ever going to be a star but he also is not AJ Epinesa or Boogies Basham 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:36 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said: Well then McDermott is risking being fired then as he should be. He isn’t though. Terry is not going to fire him next season if things go sideways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 He had trouble adjusting to being the guy. He did have an ankle injury though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 58 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Funny thing…come playoff time he was MIA, but as long as some fancy stat says he is great value, that is all that matters. Who cares if the eye test says otherwise. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Funny thing…come playoff time he was MIA, but as long as some fancy stat says he is great value, that is all that matters. Who cares if the eye test says otherwise. I find it odd that Spotrac only uses the contract for the cost side of the value equation. They should include draft capital gains for players on their rookie deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Rousseau showed some real talent this season. His performance was much better when Miller lined up opposite him. I think he will be a real force next season. He was limited by a slippery track against the Bengals. I think he could benefit by getting bigger and stronger. He should work on that in the off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) The kid can be better , he can add some different pass rush moves to his bag. Spends, bends, more violent hands, use the OLINE's leverage, bull rushing and speed rush. Edited February 7, 2023 by BBills_88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, BBills_88 said: The kid can be better , he can add some different pass rush moves to his bag. Spends, bends, more violent hands, use the OLINE's leverage, bull rushing and speed rush. You can add a more whole bunch of different moves, but it doesn’t mean anything unless you can dominate your man by using them. What I am saying….easier said than done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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