Process Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, BufBills83 said: We didn't have miller or white last year in the playoffs and we should have at least went to the AFCCG. We'll be fine this year. Still favorites to win the Superbowl that won't change . The contract is what sucks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: This all of a sudden looks like it could be the worst contract in the NFL Russel Wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Me trying to get excited for the Jets game and the rest of the season and to pretend like this injury doesn't massively impact the Bills' chances of winning the Super Bowl: Edited December 7, 2022 by Logic 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Shake_My_Head said: Not only does it hurt this year but we lose him for two-thirds of 2023 as well. Have to see what Beane does in the offseason (draft/FA) to minimize the loss of Von for 2023. It definitely hurts for the playoffs. We made it to the AFCCG without him so this team can still achieve its goal. I want that #1 seed now. Without Von we can use all the help and homefield helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 His first acl was on 12/22/2013. He played every game in 2014 and ended with 14 sacks. he is not necessarily ‘done’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said: Not only does it hurt this year but we lose him for two-thirds of 2023 as well. 5/6ths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BufBills83 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 If anyone can work this contract out going forward, its Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Process said: We'll be fine this year. Still favorites to win the Superbowl that won't change . The contract is what sucks.... Contract? will be null and voided if this is a career ender and a settlement will be made to let go of von. Paying Von that much to sit out the rest of this year and most of next year? nope. i dont see it happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Is Jeff Jillson available? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 For the doomers... this is why you try to build teams without trading away a ton of draft picks. While this is incredibly frustrating, this why we're not screwed moving forward in paying a huge chunk of cap space to a major piece that won't be back until potentially Christmas of next year. DL is loaded with high round talent and we have all our main picks next year to infuse young talent onto a roster with limited cap space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Why is McDermott being conservative with this injury? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 OMG I'm at work otherwise I would be yelling obscenities at the clouds right now! How can we have this bad luck all season with injuries?? 2 Seasons in a row we lose a major player on defense! Imagine if we had Trey White last year vs KC? Do we finally get over the hump and win the SB? and now this. I know we can get over this and win without Miller but WTF this is so karmically unfair!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Contract? will be null and voided if this is a career ender and a settlement will be made to let go of von. Paying Von that much to sit out the rest of this year and most of next year? nope. i dont see it happening We’re gonna have to wait to see what happens on that. I’m just bummed for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, hemma said: His first acl was on 12/22/2013. He played every game in 2014 and ended with 14 sacks. he is not necessarily ‘done’. stop fooling yourself. that was 9 years ago and von in football years is OLD for this type of injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, TPS said: This team is still better than last year’s when 13 seconds prevented a likely Super Bowl appearance and win. not deterred. We have Joan Allen. No chance. Their D is def worse. No Jerry / Von , no Hyde tre hobbled and won’t make an impact shaq is a fringe roster maker/JAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Contract? will be null and voided if this is a career ender and a settlement will be made to let go of von. Paying Von that much to sit out the rest of this year and most of next year? nope. i dont see it happening What incentive does Von have to settle out of a $120M contract? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 This hurts most because a 33 year old player was our only “twitchy” edge rusher. We have no one else on that DL who rushes with pure speed and bend. Like Dawkins said, “Jerry Hughes was a great player to go against, but Von Miller is like Jerry x4.” They’ll have to blitz more off the edge because Rousseau is the only one left who gets back there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 When we had all these injuries on defense this year I would constantly think to myself “Von is the guy we can always depend on to stay healthy. He’s a true pro and knows how to take care of his body”. And then, With one mis-step, he is done. Just like that. I hate ACL injuries. And what makes this even worse is knowing Von had been making the game changing plays we brought him here to make. This would be a LOT easier to digest if he was underperforming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Process said: What incentive does Von have to settle out of a $120M contract? He wont have a choice. Settlements happen every year no matter the size of the contract. Von will not have a choice but to settle on an agreement. THATS how this works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 By the end of today, I expect the TBD Medical Team, TBD General Manager Team and TBD Football Analyst Team to report on the following: 1. Why was this tear not seen earlier? 2. How long will Von Miller be out? 3. What does this mean for the Bills' chances to land OBJ? 4. How will this affect next year's draft/free agency/trades? 5. What does this do to our Super Bowl chances? 6. When was the last time Bruce Nolan banged EJ Manuel's mom? Don't let me down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BufBills83 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, balln said: No chance. Their D is def worse. No Jerry / Von , no Hyde tre hobbled and won’t make an impact shaq is a fringe roster maker/JAG Defense is most definitely not worse than last year. Added Phillips, Settle, Jones, white is back, elam added, improvements from edmunds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Oh, it's not Josh Allen? Still doesn't change my Super Bowl expectations. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: stop fooling yourself. that was 9 years ago and von in football years is OLD for this type of injury We are also more advanced in medicine and rehab. Not everyone is Tre White in return time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, balln said: No chance. Their D is def worse. No Jerry / Von , no Hyde tre hobbled and won’t make an impact shaq is a fringe roster maker/JAG why do you keep saying that Trey White is hobbled? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: This hurts most because a 33 year old player was our only “twitchy” edge rusher. We have no one else on that DL who rushes with pure speed and bend. Like Dawkins said, “Jerry Hughes was a great player to go against, but Von Miller is like Jerry x4.” They’ll have to blitz more off the edge because Rousseau is the only one left who gets back there. Speaking of Jerry.... Are there still rumors of his release? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I mean, I guess there’s not much they can do in terms of clearing room, and it’s pretty much Groot and Epenesa time? More hope for Lawson than Espenesa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, NewEra said: Good thing we let Jerry go!! 😔 Oh please. As if that should even be part of the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, balln said: No chance. Their D is def worse. No Jerry / Von , no Hyde tre hobbled and won’t make an impact shaq is a fringe roster maker/JAG Are you forgetting Da'Quan Jones, Tim Settle, a 2nd year Greg Rousseau? How is Tre hobbled and won't make an impact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Can you believe Justin Zimmer was signed off the Bills Practice Squad on 11/23 by those dirty rotten Fins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I just want to know how we went from he’ll be back in a month playing with a brace to season ending ACL surgery. How did they get that so wrong? You cant always see this stuff in imaging. Same reason they wait for swelling to go down before doing the imaging. They didnt see it. Then he had exploratory surgery to repair the meniscus that they did see in imaging. While doing that surgery they seen the torn ACL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, hemma said: His first acl was on 12/22/2013. He played every game in 2014 and ended with 14 sacks. he is not necessarily ‘done’. As mentioned earlier, that was many moons, and many thousands of plays ago. 3 minutes ago, Process said: What incentive does Von have to settle out of a $120M contract? Well, really has $40 million left if I remember correctly. Last 3 years was to spread the cap hit out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 what a kick in the dick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, TPS said: This team is still better than last year’s when 13 seconds prevented a likely Super Bowl appearance and win. not deterred. We have Joan Allen. Good ol’ Joan Allen! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BufBills83 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Team is better than last year and we're the 1 seed. This doesn't change the outlook for the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Contract? will be null and voided if this is a career ender and a settlement will be made to let go of von. Paying Von that much to sit out the rest of this year and most of next year? nope. i dont see it happening Why do you keep calling it a career ender? You have no clue, man. Also, why the hell would Von accept an injury settlement? Guy negotiated three years of guaranteed $$$, for a situation just like this. He'll rehab and return in mid-to-late 2023. The only real question we should be asking ourselves is how much will he have left in the tank when he's back on the field? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Wow. What a waste of money? Never should have signed him. Likely out next year too. 9/12 month recovery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you forgetting Da'Quan Jones, Tim Settle, a 2nd year Greg Rousseau? How is Tre hobbled and won't make an impact? He's a troll, to him we were doomed before this news came out, this is just convenient for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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