Dillenger4 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 The fact that Von walked off the field means nothing. Cue: Clay Tomson and Steph Curry. Both tore their ACL and continued to play in the very same game. Clay tore his and continued to shoot the free throws, ran into the tunnel, came back out to play until he finally said "im done". Anyway, let's hope for the best with Von. We need you Vonny! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Almost nobody said that actually. 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Chao definitely invoked Tommy John. He may have not said he definitely needed it, but he, and some others, put that out into the Twitterverse. Chao is a Fanduel-paid betting line influencer. His "diagnosis" of Allen was borderline unethical. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Now that Von Miller has been hurt and will miss games, EVERY STARTER on defense, with the exception of Daquan Jones, has been injured and missed time. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that since I started following the Bills religiously from ‘97 on. 3 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 That is crazy. What about Taron Johnson? Is he not considered a starter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Now that Von Miller has been hurt and will miss games, EVERY STARTER on defense, with the exception of Daquan Jones, has been injured and missed time. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that since I started following the Bills religiously from ‘97 on. Taron Johnson hasn’t missed a start. 14 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: That is crazy. What about Taron Johnson? Is he not considered a starter? He’s a starter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 My online diagnosis is that Von has a knee injury, but not season ending. I got my M.D. degree at Twitterversity. My course of action would be to shut him down for the rest of the regular season. Continue to be hype machine for the guys at practice and game days. Allow him to get healthy and then unleash his fury for the playoffs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman_34 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: That is crazy. What about Taron Johnson? Is he not considered a starter? He shouldn’t be. He’s been trash all year! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Miller is a good enough athlete to play without an ACL like Thurman Thomas did for his entire pro career, given proper bracing and strengthening of the support muscles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 56 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Almost nobody said that actually. Gugny was all over the Tommy John thing. Saw it mentioned outside the board too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Miller is a good enough athlete to play without an ACL like Thurman Thomas did for his entire pro career, given proper bracing and strengthening of the support muscles. I disagree. Yes he maybe COULD play but should he? I saw no. Miller is too athletic and makes dynamic movements to the ball rotating his knees, he could really do serious damage if he plays plus mentally he will always have that in the back of huis mind taking away his aggressiveness which is a key to his game. He is not a one year rental, he is here or at least paid up for years. Edited November 25, 2022 by RoyBatty is alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Now that Von Miller has been hurt and will miss games, EVERY STARTER on defense, with the exception of Daquan Jones, has been injured and missed time. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that since I started following the Bills religiously from ‘97 on. Wow. That is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’m still hoping it’s just an MCL sprain/stretch. I really think that’s what it is but we won’t know until they release the MRI results. Have a feeling McDermott will keep everyone guessing for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Charles Romes said: when you reach Rappaport’s level you build your reputation on never reporting inaccurate news. However, Ian’s the same guy who reported the AB signing. Well , there you go , never say never. He very well could be right. Hey personally I am not affected one way or the other as it’s all speculation unless you examined the knee or you read the mri before it was done. Lol. 😊. I was just saying the younger Dr has proven to be very good at explaining injuries this year. He wasn’t o and couldn’t be definitive as that’s impossible. I think he said something like he feared , etc etc, Nothing wrong with making an educated GUESS. He is paid to do that. All Drs are paid for educated guesses , until an image or tissue oath comes back. It’s called a working differential diagnosis. That’s how they are taught to think Make a list with most likely things at the top and other less likely things down the list. The hunan baody is not a car , it’s a dynamic organism, ever changing so you are trained to think expansively. Let’s sY you go I. With a cough and the Dr says it’s bronchitis. Well, many things act the same. It could also be a pneumonia, asthma, cold, a pulmonary embolus etc. They make a differential diagnostic list if POSSIBULITUES, and the.n work thru that list. I doubt Rap makes a list or has knowledge to do so ! in this case it could be a sprain, it could be a a l tear, it could be an Mcl sprain or tear, it coukd be a medial meniscal tear, etc. Only the Drs reading the MRI will know as close to 100% as possible , until if required, someone scopes and actually sees the extent of damage. So Rap might know what he was told , there in no way his report can be 100% a fact or von would not need aN MRI would he ? So if he doesn’t get or require an mri , then the examining Drs exam is compatible with a sprain and that’s possible. Not Every knee injury tears an ACL , and if there is no laxity , no swelling from bleeding , then there’s likely no tear! That would be great! Alll those Drs were saying is the injury looked suspicious with the awkward medial strain on the joint as he bent , and he was obvioulsy in discomfort for quite a while and didn’t seem to want to place his weight on the leg. Heck, he could have been dancing in the locker room for all we know. and Rap saw that and reported it as a sprain. The drs just saw the initial injury and reaction , and based on their extensive experience, SUGGESTED, it looked like a possible tear. That’s true, but not a fact., just a working diagnosis. It’s their job just like Raps is to be first to spue something! Neither is Fact until more time passes and either he is re examined or an mri shows definitive issues. Hope that makes sense. Time is truths friend in this case. Hey we NEVER FOUND OUT on JOSHS REAL INJURY DID WE? Can Rap tell us that w 100% accuracy , NO, BUT HE CAN SAY JOSH HAS A SPRAINED ELBOW. HE Is REPORTING SOMETHING HE DOESNT KNOW FOR SURE, but his rep is still intact. We will know to some degree if von stays on the active roster or is placed on IR which suggests structural damage. They may not say exactly until it’s reported he is having surgery. If not , it’s a sprain and great news. Raps rep is not held to the high standards a board certified docs is who is licensed every two years based on tested knowledge. I don’t think Rap has to pass a national test or earn a certain number of cme hours every two years to be able to continue to write an opinion. However, a board certified dr must’ Document on a states website proof that he has done so. Take home point: we won’t know unless an actual mri is reported. , and that includes Rap. If no mri is done / required , it’s a minor sprain and that’s amazing considering how it initially looked No one is taking sides , just reporting observations now and that Drs rep is no less credible than Raps! I am hoping for a sprain as I love the Bills., yet initially it appears a little more involved. These guys are truly freak individuals so heck tomorrow he could be dancing , or. In a brace / crutches waiting in a surgery date. Time is always a friend to the truth. Go Bills 😀 best wishes ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 All we know is that the team hasn’t acknowledged that they “fear a potential season ending knee injury”. Instead we’ve heard “cautiously optimistic”. That’s it. That’s all we know for sure. What that tells me is they did tests on him at the stadium and didn’t have the tell-tale signs of an ACL tear. Teams usually know fairly quickly, which is why you hear statements like “team fears etc etc..”. Doesn’t mean they’re in the clear… just means the initial tests weren’t conclusive, which likely gives them hope … considering ACL tests are usually diagnosed pretty quickly with the MRI used to confirm. i.e. Tre last year .. they knew immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said: Now that Von Miller has been hurt and will miss games, EVERY STARTER on defense, with the exception of Daquan Jones, has been injured and missed time. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that since I started following the Bills religiously from ‘97 on. Man… You better not have just jinxed Daquan! Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dillenger4 said: The fact that Von walked off the field means nothing. Cue: Clay Tomson and Steph Curry. Both tore their ACL and continued to play in the very same game. Clay tore his and continued to shoot the free throws, ran into the tunnel, came back out to play until he finally said "im done". Anyway, let's hope for the best with Von. We need you Vonny! I walked off the basketball court and torn my ACL, MCL, lateral meniscus. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said: Now that Von Miller has been hurt and will miss games, EVERY STARTER on defense, with the exception of Daquan Jones, has been injured and missed time. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that since I started following the Bills religiously from ‘97 on. I've never seen that and I've been following them since 73!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 17 hours ago, BobBelcher said: did Tre? Cant remember I believe he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Update 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Concern for meniscus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Concern for meniscus Damn. Hopefully he is back for the playoffs… Rousseau and Epenesa have to step up bigtime. It’s on them until Von gets back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Concern for meniscus 🙏🙏🙏. Get well Von!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Concern for meniscus A torn meniscus means what? Out 4-6 weeks? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Process said: A torn meniscus means what? Out 4-6 weeks? Anyone know? Did they say it’s torn? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Did they say it’s torn? Nah just curious what timeline is if that's the case as it seems like worst case scenario 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 No ACL tear. Thank God. Shut him down and get him ready for the playoffs. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 man no ACL that is great news for von and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Process said: A torn meniscus means what? Out 4-6 weeks? Anyone know? I imagine it depends on how they want to treat it and what kind of tear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Process said: A torn meniscus means what? Out 4-6 weeks? Anyone know? Could be 2-3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffblue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Could be 2-3 months. If surgery, yes. If not, he could be back for the playoffs. Sounds like he is definitely needing surgery and it will all boil down to whether he can push it to the off-season. Either way he will and should be shut down in the near term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I'll spare you having to watch the press conference. Here's McDermott's answer: "yeah, he's going to miss some time. I'll say he's week-to-week." 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Surely we will have more clarity after a Sean McDermott press conference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Process said: A torn meniscus means what? Out 4-6 weeks? Anyone know? I think it depends on the degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, buffblue said: If surgery, yes. If not, he could be back for the playoffs. Sounds like he is definitely needing surgery and it will all boil down to whether he can push it to the off-season. Either way he will and should be shut down in the near term Depending the amount of damage, even with surgery he could be back for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: Did they say it’s torn? Depends. If they repair a torn meniscus he will be out for the season. If he gets it removed, he will probably be out 6 weeks. he should be able to play on it even if it’s torn assuming he doesn’t have a bucket handle tear (essentially the meniscus tears and folds on itself…painful and prevents knee from straightening) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Maybe Jerry Hughes can ask Houston for his immediate release! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’m pretty sure being a Bills fan this year has successfully prepared me to become an orthopedic surgeon. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 So week to week means not season ending injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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