Von Miller knee injury (update - ACL intact, awaiting diagnosis on lateral meniscus)

[RichRiderBills]

I don't think it is an ACL. His foot got stepped on at the same time. I am thinking at worse broken foot or high ankle sprain. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

Just now, RichRiderBills said:

I don't think it is an ACL. His foot got stepped on at the same time. I am thinking at worse broken foot or high ankle sprain. 

No.  It's already been reported as a knee sprain.  Severity will be determined later. 

[transient]

30 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Sorry, wrong link.  Here it is

 

A quick google search indicates that Dr. Sutterer finished medical school in 2017 or 2018 and then did a 4 year physiatry residency, which means he's been in practice for 0-1 years. With time, he'll hopefully realize that this sort of speculation is counterproductive and not very professional, especially when he ends up being wrong on the record and his patients come bearing "receipts."

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

No.  It's already been reported as a knee sprain.  Severity will be determined later. 

 

Thank God...not season ending most likely unless MRI finds something unexpected 

[NewEra]

Our season rests on the knee of Von Miller.

🙏🏻  

[nedboy7]

I think he had a mid game gout attack.  These responses are hilarious. 

[ShakAttack]

6 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

No.  It's already been reported as a knee sprain.  Severity will be determined later. 

 

Where?  I could use some relief too.

 

 

EDIT-  I see some reports now as well, but they also did not rule out a more serious injury.

 

So it's still "Who knows"

Edited November 24, 2022 by BobBelcher

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

I think he had a mid game gout attack.  These responses are hilarious. 

this is a complete fail of a post

[Nextmanup]

7 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I don't think it is an ACL. His foot got stepped on at the same time. I am thinking at worse broken foot or high ankle sprain. 

It was reported as a knee injury during the game.

 

The way his foot was stepped on limited his movement in a way that may have hurt the knee.

 

Everything on the leg is all connected and it's 1 moving thing.

 

We'll know what is going on probably on Saturday I would think.

 

 

 

[Buffalo03]

Nut sack. He will be fine with ice tonight 

[transient]

33 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

They didn't report my initial professional analysis of a lower left spleen injury!

How dare you. You take that back and then shut your damn fool mouth. How could you even insinuate such a career ending fate. 

[BobbyC81]

1 hour ago, bills6969 said:

Agree

if we don’t make the playoffs then McDermott should be canned

That’s BS!  Do we not remember the days of 7-9 Jauron?  The 17 year playoff drought?  Gregggggg Williams?
 

If they don’t make the playoffs, it’s partially because of all these injuries!

[RiotAct]

11 minutes ago, transient said:

A quick google search indicates that Dr. Sutterer finished medical school in 2017 or 2018 and then did a 4 year physiatry residency, which means he's been in practice for 0-1 years. With time, he'll hopefully realize that this sort of speculation is counterproductive and not very professional, especially when he ends up being wrong on the record and his patients come bearing "receipts."

blue checkmark though 

[Gunsgoodtime]

4 minutes ago, transient said:

How dare you. You take that back and then shut your damn fool mouth. How could you even insinuate such a career ending fate. 

I know what I saw.  Lower left spleen sprain

[Dr.Sack]

He will be back the week Rousseau comes back. 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Initial diagnosis Knee sprain.

 

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1595860540450037765?s=20&t=GQD5e03CvbwRDugig_WqHg

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos

[No_Matter_What]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Monday tests? Is it Sunday already? Lol

[RyanC883]

2 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Monday tests? Is it Sunday already? Lol

 

I don’t understand why they have to wait. Can’t they do it tonight. 

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I don’t understand why they have to wait. Can’t they do it tonight. 

Swelling I think 

[Big Turk]

9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I don’t understand why they have to wait. Can’t they do it tonight. 

 

Gotta wait for swelling to subside 

[John from Riverside]

7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Swelling I think 

Do you normally have to wait for the swelling to go down? However, the fact that he was seen walking around without an ice pack on his knee is encouraging.

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Do you normally have to wait for the swelling to go down? However, the fact that he was seen walking around without an ice pack on his knee is encouraging.

I believe for an MRI you do. They’ll need one of those to determine extent of ( hopefully) sprain . 

[Warriorspikes51]

If ACL was torn he’d have ice wrap around knee

[ShakAttack]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

If ACL was torn he’d have ice wrap around knee

did Tre? Cant remember 

[Coffeesforclosers]

It's a Thanksgiving miracle.

[Simon]

17 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

If ACL was torn he’d have ice wrap around knee

 

keeping swelling reduced is what they'd be doing regardless of whether or not it was an ACL

[vanhalen26]

Friggin Detroit turf!

[machine gun kelly]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I don’t understand why they have to wait. Can’t they do it tonight. 

They could make it happen tomorrow.  That’s easy peasey.  

[Dick_Cheney]

they have to wait for the swelling to go down to get an accurate assessment you wackos 

[Coldfronts]

5 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:

they have to wait for the swelling to go down to get an accurate assessment you wackos 

There you go again Dick.

[John from Riverside]

7 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:

they have to wait for the swelling to go down to get an accurate assessment you wackos 

Thanks, dick

[chongli]

3 hours ago, Carmel Corn said:

Some suggesting an ACL now...

 

 

 

 

 

[billsfan_34]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Do you normally have to wait for the swelling to go down? However, the fact that he was seen walking around without an ice pack on his knee is encouraging.

Better dx after 48 hours 

[SCBills]

While everyone was screaming Tommy John for Josh Allen, my brother (physical therapist) was pretty convinced it was a low grade UCL and he’d likely miss 1-4 games… but as we know, Josh is an absolute freak. 
 

He’s pretty convinced that was an MCL due to the inward bend of his knee by force.  Just have to see the extent.   
 

Typically teams have an idea of if it may be an ACL by doing stability tests on the sideline.  The fact “cautiously optimistic” is being reported seems like they, at least, didn’t have the typical giveaway when doing initial tests.  
 

Edited November 25, 2022 by SCBills

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Do you normally have to wait for the swelling to go down? However, the fact that he was seen walking around without an ice pack on his knee is encouraging.

 

For an mri yes, they have to wait for swelling

[ShakAttack]

15 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

 

 

 

 

Saw all this stuff too.  

 

So we basically have:

 

1.  The "online doctors" claiming it's likely ACL based on watching videos.

 

2.  Rappaport saying it's most likely a sprain (based on his sources that had to come from someone close to the Bills team as opposed to someone watching a video) 

 

So I guess I'll be cautiously optimistic too.

 

[Lost]

19 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

 

 

Sick of these MDs pre diagnosing the worst possible scenario without seeing any MRIs Xrays etc.  I swear some of them just do it for clicks

[BuffBillsForLife]

All I can say is that the team not immediately declaring it an ACL is a win in my book.  Here's to cautious optimism.

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Sick of these MDs pre diagnosing the worst possible scenario without seeing any MRIs Xrays etc.  I swear some of them just do it for clicks

I agree with us. I think that there, but should be repercussions for trying to be the first one out there to report the worst possible bad news and being right if you’re wrong, it should go on your yelp reviews

[Mark92]

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