TBBills Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, 14774 said: Russ is the very definition of a "System QB". I also think his focus has changed from his GAME to his BRAND. His brand will only do as well as his game so he better get his act together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (6) Mike Klis on Twitter: "There’s been some gossip about Russell Wilson’s standing in locker room. Here’s some context. Per source Wilson’s wife Ciara thru him a birthday party last night and “it looked like about half the team was there.” On player’s day off. Why do people have to be so hurtful? #9sports" / Twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Most of those showed up just to check out Ciara. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Why would anyone care to see a picture of Russel Wilson standing in the locker room? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I’m sure he’ll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I haven't watched any denver games. Is Wilson really that bad or is it that head coach and his offense play calls? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Wyobills89 said: I haven't watched any denver games. Is Wilson really that bad or is it that head coach and his offense play calls? Yes. Both are absolutely horrible. 13 minutes ago, Greg S said: (6) Mike Klis on Twitter: "There’s been some gossip about Russell Wilson’s standing in locker room. Here’s some context. Per source Wilson’s wife Ciara thru him a birthday party last night and “it looked like about half the team was there.” On player’s day off. Why do people have to be so hurtful? #9sports" / Twitter About half is a pretty good turn out. There's been a lot of debate online about what this Tweet is trying to say. I'm in the camp that thinks it shows more support for Wilson. Getting half the company to an event would be considered successful for one of our events. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Been very disappointing in how the situation turned out with RW and Denver. Have to wonder how much of it is RW and how much is Hackett?? I just have a hard time believeing RW is really that bad this fast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wyobills89 said: I haven't watched any denver games. Is Wilson really that bad or is it that head coach and his offense play calls? Both 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) I don't like to get into the race/old boys network stuff...but I could certainly understand someone making a pretty good case of that when it comes to Hackett. Dude literally just kept failing upwards and then parlayed an OC job in which he didn't even call plays into a head coaching gig. He's so in over his head in every way possible. Edited November 30, 2022 by HomeskillitMoorman 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Hackett is the problem. Another guy whose success was 100% due to the QB he stood on the sidelines and cheered for. Lefleur is the same way. Is he actually a good coach, or did he just get coffee for Sean McVay and then coach Aaron Rodgers? If I was the RB coach for the Titans I could get a HC job next year because "look what he did with that running game!" It's kind of crazy how owners fall for that Edited November 30, 2022 by TheFunPolice 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I don't like to get into the race/old boys network stuff...but I could certainly understand someone making a pretty good case of that when it comes to Hackett. Dude literally just kept failing upwards and then parlayed an OC job in which he didn't even call plays into a head coaching gig. He's so in over his head in every way possible. I could not understand what anyone has seen from Hackett that would make one give him a HC job. Nothing at all 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 It was probably the non-starting half of the team... 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 There's a thing I believe on NFL.com that explains Wilson's cap hit for the next few years. OMG, I can't believe they did that. That being said, Hackett will be the scapegoat, right or wrong. 4 minutes ago, Doc said: It was probably the non-starting half of the team... Free Beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Wyobills89 said: I haven't watched any denver games. Is Wilson really that bad or is it that head coach and his offense play calls? Wilson is really that bad. The offensive scheme could be better, the protection could be better, and the route running could be better, but all 3 could be functional if Wilson was. All that said, really comes down to Hackett because someone has to get in the $243M man's Grill and tell him he needs to make his reads and follow his progressions and not be all "I'm throwing to Courtland Sutton No Matter What" JMO, but there's an interesting piece here by Kurt Warner, starting with a clinic on route running provided to Courtland Sutton (!!!) combined with a breakdown of the whole picture explaining where Wilson should be trying to go. Aside: Warner has really evolved and improved on his pieces. He now outlines routes and coverages and make it much easier for someone like myself to follow, so I get a lot more out of them than I used to. Highly recommend them! Earlier in the year he did this: Edited November 30, 2022 by Beck Water 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Doc said: It was probably the non-starting half of the team... Probably players he doesn't even know their names lol. I wonder how many WR's didn't show up. That's a sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I don't like to get into the race/old boys network stuff...but I could certainly understand someone making a pretty good case of that when it comes to Hackett. Dude literally just kept failing upwards and then parlayed an OC job in which he didn't even call plays into a head coaching gig. He's so in over his head in every way possible. This guy is in over his head? 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Half?! That’s a good turnout. People have stuff to do, families, other engagements, etc. Thats actually more than I would’ve thought would show. 22 minutes ago, nosejob said: There's a thing I believe on NFL.com that explains Wilson's cap hit for the next few years. OMG, I can't believe they did that. That being said, Hackett will be the scapegoat, right or wrong. Free Beer! That kind’ve deal. There will probably be two coaches that gets the axe before Wilson. Unless they can bring in a guy that did exactly what Carroll was able to do with him. Edited November 30, 2022 by Bobby Hooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This guy is in over his head? 😂 The only reason Hackett is so excited in the clip was he thought they would be getting free sammiches from Subway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Some people, are a 'Good Interview'. In some cases. It's 'free fall', after that... Probationary periods are key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 It is possible Russel Wilson is using audibles from Seattle because he knows how inept coaching staff is led by Nathaniel Hackett. He should have considered this before signing the biggest NFL contract knowing it would hurt his "brand". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: It is possible Russel Wilson is using audibles from Seattle because he knows how inept coaching staff is led by Nathaniel Hackett. He should have considered this before signing the biggest NFL contract knowing it would hurt his "brand". At 34 and just starting this contract, I dont think his brand matters much anymore. This will likely be his last contract even if he was playing well. And with $161M guaranteed, I'd play for any coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes. Both are absolutely horrible. About half is a pretty good turn out. There's been a lot of debate online about what this Tweet is trying to say. I'm in the camp that thinks it shows more support for Wilson. Getting half the company to an event would be considered successful for one of our events. If it was a 50 person team with the CEO personally throwing a blow out event 50% would be real soft. this isn’t a dish to pass in the break room when everyone is off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: If it was a 50 person team with the CEO personally throwing a blow out event 50% would be real soft. this isn’t a dish to pass in the break room when everyone is off Except that isnt the case here either. Russ aint no CEO. He's middle management, with little to no influence on hiring and firing, and throwing an after-work event that cuts into personal time. Half is decent. I dont think Wilson is very loved there right now, but I'd think this is better than expected given all the recent stories. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Except that isnt the case here either. Russ aint no CEO. He's middle management, with little to no influence on hiring and firing, and throwing an after-work event that cuts into personal time. Half is decent. I dont think Wilson is very loved there right now, but I'd think this is better than expected given all the recent stories. i wonder if the "half of players" were the offense players and not wanting to get on his bad side hurting their performance as reported occasionally in Seattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This guy is in over his head? 😂 If Nate Hackett was the Buffalo Bills HC, my posts here would make @ScottLaw look like a "homer". 2 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This guy is in over his head? 😂 I would have been thoroughly embarrassed if my head coach ever acted in that manner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Its just the best when others teams screw the pooch on their QB selections, that, and pay them a ton of guaranteed money, it just makes me smile, GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Hackett stinks but Russ is horrible. Just look at how improved Seattle's offense is with GENO FREAKING SMITH running the show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: Unfortunately, for Denver. coaching contracts, are guaranteed. The Waltons have the money to eat it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Hackett stinks but Russ is horrible. Just look at how improved Seattle's offense is with GENO FREAKING SMITH running the show! Hackett is horrible in any year and with any team, and Russ has been horrible in Denver. But the idea that Russ was horrible last year and that Geno is that much better simply doesn't reflect the facts. Wilson's passer ratings last year, game by game: 152.3 128.8 111.2 116.0 93.7 [he got hurt in this one and missed the next 3 games] 39.7 [first game back post-injury, probably rushed it] 80.1 110.6 99.4 115.2 55.3 [Rams; his only real dud, discounting the first post-injury game] 104.1 133.0 110.7 In short: he started great, he got hurt, he came back too soon, and apart from one awful start against the Rams (they had a way of doing that to opponents last year), was really good in the last 7 games. In total: 9 out of 14 starts with a QB rating of 100+. Compare Josh Allen this year: 5 out of 11. [Yes, I know QB rating is flawed, but check any other metric and you'll see something very similar]. If he wasn't "elite" last year, he was still very good, and outside of the Holy Trinity (Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen; I refuse to include Brady] you could make a case that he was right there with the rest of the next tier. This is what's so shocking about exactly how bad he's been this year. This kind of drop-off really doesn't happen. Cam Newton and Peyton Manning are the only recent examples I can think of who've just fallen off a cliff year-to-year like Russ has this season. The Broncos were perfectly rational in trading for him based on what they saw from him last season. Watching him this year, I do think he's just done as a good NFL QB. I think he'll rebound, but never be what he was, even in the supposedly "down" year of 2021. But can he be that much worse than he was last year without some kind of significant injury explaining it? Answer: we won't know until Hackett is fired and an entirely new offense is put in place. My best guess: he won't actually be good next year, but he won't be horrible like he is this year. Edited December 1, 2022 by The Frankish Reich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 "Let's ride" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, White Linen said: "Let's ride" "Broncos Country. Cyanide." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: Unfortunately, for Denver. coaching contracts, are guaranteed. Yeah but they can work out a deal to pay him less than what they are owed up front versus forcing them to sit out or face offsets if another club wants to hire them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: Unfortunately, for Denver. coaching contracts, are guaranteed. Why do you put so many commas in your sentences? You're even adding random periods now. Is everything okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 14 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: If Nate Hackett was the Buffalo Bills HC, my posts here would make @ScottLaw look like a "homer". Hackett was pretty hated when he was here I recall. Can’t believe he’s an actual head coach lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: The Waltons have the money to eat it. The hell you say. John Boy was always out shooting varmints for vittles. 🤨 * 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: The Waltons have the money to eat it. Finally paying an employee 52 minutes ago, DJB said: Hackett was pretty hated when he was here I recall. Can’t believe he’s an actual head coach lol Neither can he 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 “The Knives are Out!!” - Rich Eisen Reacts to the Latest Sniping at Broncos QB Russell Wilson Rich Eisen and the guys react to a report out of Denver that a number of Broncos teammates snubbed Russell Wilson by no-showing for his birthday party thrown by Ciara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 It’s over for this bozo. . Guy just can't make plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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