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3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I still see this team being in the playoffs as well barring a complete disaster, but what's it really going to matter if we are a WC team in a loaded AFC conference. There's also a reason the 90's Bills teams made 4 straight SB's and why KC also made 2 in recent years. Pretty sure that the Pats and Brady had home field throughout in the playoffs for all but 2 of their 9 SB trips as well, it's because playing at home matters and that's what this team needed this year for any real shot at a SB before the current window starts to close quickly.

 

Um...

 

Buff's third trip to the Super Bowl was as a Wild Card.  Your argument is invalid.  They needed to win a home and then two road playoff games to get there.

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4 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's a long season... 

 

IF we lost to go to 6-3 there are plenty of games left. I could see 12-5 in that scenario, or even 11-6 if Allen misses a few weeks. Either way, we get into the tournament. 

And most people had us at 6-2 right now, only difference is they were going with losses to the rams and chiefs. 
 

the standings will matter in 5 weeks. If we lose Sunday it won’t be the end of the world. If we lose Josh for a long stretch, it will. 

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12 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I still see this team being in the playoffs as well barring a complete disaster, but what's it really going to matter if we are a WC team in a loaded AFC conference?

 

McD has proven he's not a true wartime playoff coach and there's a reason why he's 0-4 lifetime on the road in these games. There's also a reason the 90's Bills teams made 4 straight SB's and why KC also made 2 in recent years. Pretty sure that the Pats and Brady had home field throughout in the playoffs for all but 2 of their 9 SB trips as well, it's because playing at home matters and that's what this team needed this year for any real shot at a SB before the current window starts to close quickly.

The 92 Bills beat the Oilers at home, the comeback game. Then went on the road for wins at Steelers & Dolphins. They won on the road as a WC

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It comes down to the safeties. Hamlin is a JAG, Jaquan is junq. When Frazier has the horses to go man up he lets the opponent run free through zone holes, then asks Siran Neal to plaster. You just saw what Garrett Freakin' Wilson did to the secondary, what do you think Justin Jefferson is going to do?

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13 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

Whether things go well or not for the Bills, you remain consistent -- and not in a good way. 

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Watch Keenum go 24 for 30 for 350 yards 3 TD's and 0 INT's. Bills win 31-17. With all the gloom and doom you know this will happen.  This is the game to get the running game going. Hopefully Singletary can get 25 or so carries for 100 yards or more with a TD or two.

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14 hours ago, Bimmer323i said:

I hope I’m wrong but from what I’ve seen of Keenum in a Bills uniform I have 0 faith in him to win us a game while 17 is healing up….

Durning preseason Keenum played with our scrub O-line against the opposing teams first defense.  He didn't have time to do anything.  He should be fine playing with our starters as long as pass protection is there.

 

I believe he will get the job done when called upon.

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We’re only halfway through the season. The playoff picture will likely change several times before the year is over. 
 

Let’s relax and hope the boys get it done on Sunday, but either way there is still a long way to go. Holding the tie breaker against KC, Tennessee, and Baltimore doesn’t hurt either. 

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11 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Discussing bad news from a Bills perspective only makes you a troll if you enjoy it and want the Bills to lose.

 

Actually, this thread is a Kool Aid drinkers excuse to B word, moan, and spew negativity all over the place.

 

Are you really not sharp enough to understand what this thread is?

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16 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'd love to believe this but I really think this team is going to look like total trash (at least on offense) without JA17 which is not only a direct indictment on Beane and the front office, but shows that he is truly a legit MVP candidate that has carried this team thus far.

 

 

You are desperate to lose here.

 

Unwilling to wait, so hungry to assume we'll look like trash. I'd hate to live like you are. It "is" not only a direct indictment yadda yadda. Nonsense, of course, but  aside from that, the key word there is "is" as Bill Clinton said. 

 

No, dude. Not "is." "Would be." It hasn't happened yet, no matter how much some of you folks are clearly aching to see it.

 

"A loss will reshape ..." you say. Wrong again. A loss could reshape ... or a loss might reshape. Or a loss might possibly reshape. 

 

All of these are reasonable ways to look at things. Better yet, "If we lose, it would reshape ..."

 

But no, you're happier assuming we'll lose and assuming that when we lose the worst will happen. You're craving all of this.

 

So glad I don't live in your world.

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Bimmer323i said:

I hope I’m wrong but from what I’ve seen of Keenum in a Bills uniform I have 0 faith in him to win us a game while 17 is healing up….

Rather than rely on what hes done in preseason and when burning clock because the starters were pulled in blowouts you may consider looking at this actual career.  Ya know, like a smarter person would do.

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15 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's a long season... 

 

IF we lost to go to 6-3 there are plenty of games left. I could see 12-5 in that scenario, or even 11-6 if Allen misses a few weeks. Either way, we get into the tournament. 

Not entirely clear if 11-6 qualifies for the playoffs this year.  

 

I was wondering about that.  If Josh misses 2 or 3 games and Keenum can't do squat in any of them, it will be tight when Josh comes back.  May have to sweep the table.  Though we could!

 

 

11 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

This is one exciting thread! 

It's been taken over by the Kool Aid Krowd and deteriorated into a whole bunch of Bills fan in-fighting, which is more or less the life blood of this forum.


Bills fans attacking Bills fans.  Great group we have here!

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, TOboy said:

We’re only halfway through the season. The playoff picture will likely change several times before the year is over. 
 

Let’s relax and hope the boys get it done on Sunday, but either way there is still a long way to go. Holding the tie breaker against KC, Tennessee, and Baltimore doesn’t hurt either. 

 

the #1 seed picture won't. it's a fair bet to say that's off the table.

 

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14 hours ago, Kaenon said:

They struggled mightily against the Commanders.

 

We'll have no troubles with the Vikings.

Unless of course, Ragnar Lothbrok decides to show up and play - then watch out!

This is crazy thinking. Yes they struggled against WSH but that’s because Washington d line is incredible and gave them fits. Our d line isn’t exactly as good so cousins will have time and that’s not even counting how much cook is going to eat up our d line. This could get ugly. 

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13 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

the #1 seed picture won't. it's a fair bet to say that's off the table.

 

Off the table? They’d be one game behind (while holding the tie breaker against anyone relevant) with a half season to go! 
 

That’s crazy talk. Regardless of what happens Sunday they are Very Much still in it. 
 

Now let’s go win this weekend and put the pressure on the rest of the field. 

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16 hours ago, NewEra said:

The best two posters flexing on us

 

^^^^^^^  THIS!!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^

15 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

No matter what the Beane cult worshippers believe, he whiffed big time on Saffold (and resigning Bates).

 

Also I get that Beasely is done and wanted out of Buffalo anyway, but idea that a proven failure like McKenzie and/or injury prone player like Crowder were going to magically pick up that production is short sighted at best.

 

Knox extension also very questionable at this point.

 

With all that said yes this team is still 6-2 and the top seed in the AFC for the moment, but one more loss and the luster and potential of this season starts to diminish exponentially as does the misguided belief that Beane is some kind of genius.

 

Yer a real blast at the parties there aren't ya bub?

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12 hours ago, The Red King said:

 

Um...

 

Buff's third trip to the Super Bowl was as a Wild Card.  Your argument is invalid.  They needed to win a home and then two road playoff games to get there.

 

Holy ***** dude......don't confuse him with facts!!!  OH NO THOSE PESKY FACTS!!!!

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2 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

the #1 seed picture won't. it's a fair bet to say that's off the table.

 

 

 

"Off the table"? Seriously? It really is not a fair bet in any way shape or form.

 

This early the idea is dumb. We're still in #1, actually. Allen might still play. We might win, with or without him. If we lose, KC might lose too, and one or more of the other competitors for #1.

 

Zero reason to think we don't still have a good chance to see things go our way. It certainly could happen that we don't win the #1. Or not.

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48 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

This is crazy thinking. Yes they struggled against WSH but that’s because Washington d line is incredible and gave them fits. Our d line isn’t exactly as good so cousins will have time and that’s not even counting how much cook is going to eat up our d line. This could get ugly. 

it could… but it won’t.

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13 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

 

   Good movie doubt many here have seen it.  That's the one he's stranded on a desert island with nuns and some orphans in pacific during ww2?

 

 

Yes, except Leslie Caron plays a French teacher with the kids and she ends up married to the "filthy beast".

It's one of my favorite Cary Grant movies and still holds up pretty good today.

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16 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I still see this team being in the playoffs as well barring a complete disaster, but what's it really going to matter if we are a WC team in a loaded AFC conference?

 

McD has proven he's not a true wartime playoff coach and there's a reason why he's 0-4 lifetime on the road in these games. There's also a reason the 90's Bills teams made 4 straight SB's and why KC also made 2 in recent years. Pretty sure that the Pats and Brady had home field throughout in the playoffs for all but 2 of their 9 SB trips as well, it's because playing at home matters and that's what this team needed this year for any real shot at a SB before the current window starts to close quickly.

 

My god you love posting like this.

 

Any real shot? Are you kidding me? This vaunted arrowhead crap needs to stop. Yes we got beat at arrowhead once. The 2nd game we lost on a fluke situation. It is not a given that we will lose in arrowhead again. Say what you want about the Texans (Allens first playoff game) and Jaguars games (No Allen), but the constant need for you to build this into some sort of trend is sickening. Just stop.

13 hours ago, The Red King said:

 

Um...

 

Buff's third trip to the Super Bowl was as a Wild Card.  Your argument is invalid.  They needed to win a home and then two road playoff games to get there.

 

The attempt to build anti Bills staff/player narratives by him is astounding. It is why most believe he is a fish fan trolling.

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17 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

And end up on the road in KC. Again.

 

Where we’ve won 2 of our last 3 and were seconds away from 3/3.  Kc is lookin mortal as ever though…it took the worst qb of all time starting and a very impressive effort from the refs to sneak the chiefs past the titans 

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3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Where we’ve won 2 of our last 3 

 

"But not playoffs" he will say. "Playoffs we are 0-2 man! We lost 2 playoff games in Arrowhead, there is just no way we can win there."

 

They insist on this sample size of two games (one of which we had in hand) to demonstrate that we just cant win there. 

 

Would home field advantage be ideal? Absolutely.

Is arrowhead this terrifying monster we can't win in? Absolutely not.

 

 

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Just now, What a Tuel said:

 

"But not playoffs" he will say. "Playoffs we are 0-2 man! We lost 2 playoff games in Arrowhead, there is just no way we can win there."

 

They insist on this sample size of two games (one of which we had in hand) to demonstrate that we just cant win there. 

 

Would home field advantage be ideal? Absolutely.

Is arrowhead this terrifying monster we can't win in? Absolutely not.

 

 

I would put less stock in the previous playoff games than our game vs kc post tyreek hill…would be my response if he responds with that 😂. Those first couple losses against kc a few years ago our team wasn’t really on their level so they should not get equal weight as the game this year imo.  Especially the first playoff game where all our receivers were playing very injured 

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2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

"But not playoffs" he will say. "Playoffs we are 0-2 man! We lost 2 playoff games in Arrowhead, there is just no way we can win there."

 

 

I mean yeah, historically correct.  Would we have won the game last year in Buffalo? I believe so 

 

It's all moot, really. If Josh misses multiple weeks, I'll bet we're a wildcard, given what's happening with our division.

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18 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

 

Im shocked it took you this long to make this thread. Did you not learn from your fear mongering last year?  Everyone knows what happens if the Bills lose this game.  Most people also know there is still 8 games to go and a lot can happen.

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15 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Discussing bad news from a Bills perspective only makes you a troll if you enjoy it and want the Bills to lose.

 

Actually, this thread is a Kool Aid drinkers excuse to B word, moan, and spew negativity all over the place.

 

 

Yeah sorry but this is the only type of thread or discussion the OP has done for years.  That makes it a troll.

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