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43 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I swear when/if the day comes and the Bills finally win the big one half the threads start the next day will be "Yea, we won the Super Bowl....but..." and the other half will be telling us how terrible a select few of the players played in the game. It's football, take the win any way they come. On to the Jets.

 

If only Jerry Sullivan clones were JEST fans.

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56 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 

I swear when/if the day comes and the Bills finally win the big one half the threads start the next day will be "Yea, we won the Super Bowl....but..." and the other half will be telling us how terrible a select few of the players played in the game. It's football, take the win any way they come. On to the Jets.

The only overreaction to last night I see is people reacting like this to others saying “I’d like to clean some of the sloppiness up” 

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The only thing I was pissed about was I took the Bills in my office pool giving 10.5. So, 27-17 made me a loser but the Bills got another win and that is all that matters. Definitely have to clean some things up and I am sure McDermott, and the coaches will do that this week in practice.

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41 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

So the coaches are the “doomerism” types then? 
 

because their press conferences were less than glowing about this game. 

You don’t say. Coaches using some bad execution as something to chew on. Yeah that never happens. 
 

still doesn’t matter. 6-1 

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I think some fans expect the opposition to just lay down and take a beating. When they don't, it's because the Bills are bad, or the coaches are bad, or Edmunds is bad, or play calling is bad, etc.

 

You know? It's still the NFL. Other teams are going to score points on us. Other teams are going to adjust and get some stops against our offense. Other teams are going beat us sometimes. It's OK. That's just how the NFL is.

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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

We can't dominate every single team, every single week.  

 

Yup. This isn't college where Georgia plays some cupcake and beats them 63-0. Even with the poor 2nd half the Bills were up by 3 scores for a good portion of the night.

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1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 

Yup. This isn't college where Georgia plays some cupcake and beats them 63-0. Even with the poor 2nd half the Bills were up by 3 scores for a good portion of the night.

 

I used to think with all the complaining during the drought years, once we start winning, fans will complain less but that isn't the case.

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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I used to think with all the complaining during the drought years, once we start winning, fans will complain less but that isn't the case.

 

I know GB is struggling but they still have Rodgers and a decent D. The spread was 10.5 and the Bills won by 10. The game went exactly the way Vegas thought it would. We got win #6 in the books. Wasn't the prettiest win but who cares. We (fans) can enjoy this for a week until they kick it off at MetLife.

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2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes it is a Super Bowl Victory or bust year, but coming out of yesterday's game (particularly the second half) and you wonder whether we as fans have set the bar too high.

 

Count me in the camp which is any way is okay.  Sure I would like to see Buffalo v New England's perfect game every game, but I know what separates teams in the NFL is a small margin, week to week.   In December, no one will be talking about Buffalo v Green Bay other than GB lost and Buffalo beat the future first ballot Hall of Famer.  They won't be talking about how, just that GB found a way in the loss to resurrect their season.  My reaction last night was pheww..  But I do think GB found away to man up, much like Buffalo did in Tampa Bay last season.  I fully expect GB to go on a little run now.

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2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Wake up call to what? It is the NFL. They are going to have plays, drives, quarters, halves, even games, when they don't play to the level of which they are capable - offensively and defensively. Every team does. Why does it have to be interpreted as anything other than what it was?

didn't you get the memo?  We want perfection or bust every week. The bust in this case is the overreaction (By only a few) posters that want/expect no mistakes or human error to happen EVER.  In That sense YES I think some fans expectations are too high.

 

But as far as the season including a playoffs run and Super Bowl win is concerned. Those expectations imo are logical in view of the team we do have,  Heaven forbid if the Bills had actually lost last nights game as opposed to having won it. However ugly ONE game ends up being I KNOW the Bills will work on cleaning those areas up. You know Josh will. The Run defense too  I'm sure the brethren here will have astute ideas on HOW to accomplish that. The glass half full scenario is OH THE PASS RUSH Though. That was impressive to me defensively

 

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Amazing how this board is with the doom and gloom threads/posts after a WIN. I say send them all back to the drought days and let them remain there with all the doom and gloomers. leaving those of us in the here and now that can appreciate a WIN, rather then whine about how the WIN turned out and accepting that teams have a sloppy game (and yet still WIN) throughout a season.

 

Constructive criticism is fine, they deserve it after the sloppy 2nd half, but accept it as a bad game and move on, rather then questioning expectations.

 

6-1 (presently the best record in the afc)

 

 

On to new jersey...

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the bills had a lousy second half.  i certainly don't expect them to be perfect every quarter or every game.  for now for me, it's a non-issue.  if it seem to carry over into the next game, then there may be something worth discussing.  the season is long and there's highs and lows.  this team just needs to be clicking as they go into the playoffs, and it's a bit early for the worry.  well...it's a bit early for the worry for most.

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2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes it is a Super Bowl Victory or bust year, but coming out of yesterday's game (particularly the second half) and you wonder whether we as fans have set the bar too high.

 

The first half was vintage Buffalo (after the first three & out) and well on the way to 40+ points.

 

Then came the second half & wonder if it was hubris, taking one's foot off the gas or just bad play and they looked shall we say "normal". 

 

The Bills were gashed on the run and the offense looked lost.  Allen was underwhelming, missed some throws, others were bad and made mental errors (and a few drops).

 

And the result was a 10 point victory. 

 

Yes I'm very conflicted.  Sure I expect them to be angry vs. NYJ, but was yesterday's second half an anomaly, a wake-up call or a portend of things to come.   

It felt like the Rams game to me. 

 

Bills left points on the field. 

 

And again, poor execution around the Red Zone on the Allen interception. 

 

I think we've seen in games where Gabe Davis and the go route aren't used, this team misses it's high gear. He's not an underneath WR. 

 

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Very chippy game.  Going in I was worried about the potential trap aspect.  Rogers had the team fired up. 

 

Diggs did himself and the team no favors walking out with GB and getting into it with Alexandaire.  Not the way to go into this. 

 

As Marv preached.  Don't be dumb, don't be dirty.  They were a little of both but still won.  Am I worried?  Nope.  Teaching moment.  As I said - VERY chippy game.  Hard and stoopid hits on BOTH sides.  Amazed more people were not injured.

 

Honestly the ONLY thing that worried me is Poyer not finishing the game.

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Nowhere did I say I was worried, just talking about "Expectations".  Yesterday was the first game this year I was not happy with.

 

Sure I could complain they could have played better vs. Baltimore (blames it on the weather) and they really screwed up vs. Miami where 19 times out of 20 they win the game under similar circumstances.

 

Yesterday's second half was just bad (and heck Teef agrees!!!😉).

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14 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

Count me in the camp which is any way is okay.  Sure I would like to see Buffalo v New England's perfect game every game, but I know what separates teams in the NFL is a small margin, week to week.   In December, no one will be talking about Buffalo v Green Bay other than GB lost and Buffalo beat the future first ballot Hall of Famer.  They won't be talking about how, just that GB found a way in the loss to resurrect their season.  My reaction last night was pheww..  But I do think GB found away to man up, much like Buffalo did in Tampa Bay last season.  I fully expect GB to go on a little run now.

 

With the Vikings at 6-1 it's going to be hard for them to win the North. Plus, the Vikings already beat GB in week 1. GB may have to go the WC route this year. Lucky for them the NFC isn't that strong.

14 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

Count me in the camp which is any way is okay.  Sure I would like to see Buffalo v New England's perfect game every game, but I know what separates teams in the NFL is a small margin, week to week.   In December, no one will be talking about Buffalo v Green Bay other than GB lost and Buffalo beat the future first ballot Hall of Famer.  They won't be talking about how, just that GB found a way in the loss to resurrect their season.  My reaction last night was pheww..  But I do think GB found away to man up, much like Buffalo did in Tampa Bay last season.  I fully expect GB to go on a little run now.

 

With the Vikings at 6-1 it's going to be hard for them to win the North. Plus, the Vikings already beat GB in week 1. GB may have to go the WC route this year. Lucky for them the NFC isn't that strong.

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2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes it is a Super Bowl Victory or bust year, but coming out of yesterday's game (particularly the second half) and you wonder whether we as fans have set the bar too high.

 

The first half was vintage Buffalo (after the first three & out) and well on the way to 40+ points.

 

Then came the second half & wonder if it was hubris, taking one's foot off the gas or just bad play and they looked shall we say "normal". 

 

The Bills were gashed on the run and the offense looked lost.  Allen was underwhelming, missed some throws, others were bad and made mental errors (and a few drops).

 

And the result was a 10 point victory. 

 

Yes I'm very conflicted.  Sure I expect them to be angry vs. NYJ, but was yesterday's second half an anomaly, a wake-up call or a portend of things to come.   


 

Here’s the thing.

 

Do you recall what happened to the Patsies on the way to seemingly endless SB Ws? They played MANY games just like last night! Overwhelming talent occasionally plays clunkers and STILL wins by 10… easily!

 

 

 

Once all Defensive hands are on deck and hopefully a trade or two, no concerns whatsoever.
 

There is a concern about the Running game. It is sub standard and showed when the 2nd Josh pick became a reality, because they cannot run it in… with the RB… in close!

 

The Bills are 6-1 after the tougher part of their schedule and have only the Vikings @ Home and the Bungles away as roadblocks to running the table.

 

And NOBODY is winning at 1 Bills Drive in 2022!

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If that was the Pats, Dolphins, Jets or even Chiefs playing the second half we'd be calling it out as trash and saying they're clearly not as good as they think they are, with a weak underbelly which can be exposed.

 

We know we can do better. We know we can do better. It's good to have this kind of warning in week eight and not in the post season. I think the defense was adapting to the situation on the ground, and basically bending not breaking. My biggest concern is Josh's interceptions. It's not like they were down to great defensive plays or down to other errors on defense. They were basic errors that any QB would be called out over, let alone someone with the undoubted skill and talent Josh has.

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12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It felt like the Rams game to me. 

 

Bills left points on the field. 

 

And again, poor execution around the Red Zone on the Allen interception. 

 

I think we've seen in games where Gabe Davis and the go route aren't used, this team misses it's high gear. He's not an underneath WR. 

 

Bye week blues but still a W regardless. 

 

We 100% left points off the board with Allen's 2 INTs that he even recognized at the game end being all on him. Regardless what GB's rushing stats say, we only gave up 10 points in the 2nd half on D. 

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1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

If that was the Pats, Dolphins, Jets or even Chiefs playing the second half we'd be calling it out as trash and saying they're clearly not as good as they think they are, with a weak underbelly which can be exposed.

 

We know we can do better. We know we can do better. It's good to have this kind of warning in week eight and not in the post season. I think the defense was adapting to the situation on the ground, and basically bending not breaking. My biggest concern is Josh's interceptions. It's not like they were down to great defensive plays or down to other errors on defense. They were basic errors that any QB would be called out over, let alone someone with the undoubted skill and talent Josh has.

 

No, the overwhelming majority of us would not be saying that.

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1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Never fails from some of the regulars.  Billsfan1959 will always tell you that you are wrong when you question anyone about this team & House is "just too cool for school" and posts something pith, sarcastic and never says a single thing, just looks for a reaction.

 

A little early & awaiting some other regulars to chime in.

 

I'm not worried & certainly that wasn't the point of the thread (waiting to read that it is a LAMP Thread), just saying that was a brutal half of football I watched and "brought me a little back to earth", so to speak. 

SMH well I for one am glad you have grounded your expectations back to earth. I could have done without the calling out of posters and those opinions though. 

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7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Every single team has had an off game or half except the Eagles and even they almost lost to Cooper Rush. 

And the Bills trailed Baltimore by 17, but to me I was never overly concerned.  Vs. KC they had 3 points with 2 minutes to go and the ball @ the 2 and again felt okay.

 

Yesterday was different at least to me.  

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2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes it is a Super Bowl Victory or bust year, but coming out of yesterday's game (particularly the second half) and you wonder whether we as fans have set the bar too high.

 

The first half was vintage Buffalo (after the first three & out) and well on the way to 40+ points.

 

Then came the second half & wonder if it was hubris, taking one's foot off the gas or just bad play and they looked shall we say "normal". 

 

The Bills were gashed on the run and the offense looked lost.  Allen was underwhelming, missed some throws, others were bad and made mental errors (and a few drops).

 

And the result was a 10 point victory. 

 

Yes I'm very conflicted.  Sure I expect them to be angry vs. NYJ, but was yesterday's second half an anomaly, a wake-up call or a portend of things to come.   

Let's keep things in perspective.  Before the season, analysts were saying that if we were 3-4 after our first 7 games we would be in good shape to make a run in the final 10 games.  We are 6-1!   Not every game is going to be perfect.  Last year we would have lost this game.

 

Just like pitchers in baseball, sometimes teams don't have things working the way they want and they have to grind out a victory.  That is what we did yesterday.

 

In another thread prior to this game someone posted the question  "are the Bills peaking too early?".  Now some are worried because we are not hitting on all cylinders in every game.

 

We won by 10 points and were in control for most of the game.  The 2nd half wasn’t pretty, but the Bills got the job done.

 

We will most likely lose a game or two we should win in the remaining 10 games.  It will be difficult  to stay ahead if KC for the AFC best record.  KC  has s soft remaing schedule for most of their remaining games. We will have our ups and downs. That is the NFL.

 

 

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