Christian McCaffrey traded to the 49ers for multiple 2nd day draft picks

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

He’s done it once already and almost did last year. The path to the SB in the NFC couldn’t be drawn up easier. Hurts, Cousins, Dak, washed Rodgers, 45 year old Brady. Which of that pile of crap are you picking to beat them?  

 

What about the Rams? 

[Don Otreply]

3,2,1…, injured, and out for the rest of the season, just a matter of time, jmo. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

25 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I’m basing it on their defensive talent (when healthy) and the fact they have some playmakers on offense (Kittle, Deebo, now CMC) and run Shanahan’s scheme very well.  If Jimmy G isn’t asked to be a hero he’s a very competent game manager who can make some plays.

 

You don’t have to agree with me.  It’s ok.  We’ll find out by the end of the season.

 

9ers aren’t going to the SB. That is something most on here can guarantee. They just lost to the falcons last Sunday and their defense is having a hard time stopping the running game. Also Jimmy G is a turnover machine

Edited October 21, 2022 by BuffaloBills1998

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:

9ers aren’t going to the SB. That is something most on here can guarantee. They just lost to the falcons last Sunday

 

The NFC is a total crap shoot. Crazier things have happened.

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

I hope he plays this week against the Chiefs!

 

Its going to be interesting to see what Shanahan does with Deebo and Mccaffrey both on the field at the same time!

 

He would’ve been nice in Buffalo, but I was kind of spooked by all his injuries, and his cap hit behind this season.

 

As someone pointed out, the 49ers have multiple 3rd round picks: they got an extra 3rd round last year and this year for Saleh, and they get an extra one this year and next year for McDaniel.  The minority hire picks come after the comp picks.

 

So this year they have at least three (3) 3rd round picks. 

 

It'll be interesting to see which 3rd round pick was included in the trade, their own, or the hiring pick.  It could theoretically be like a 2nd, a high 4th and a low 4th, and then a 5th next year.

[DrDawkinstein]

34 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Would have loved to have him, but apparently teams were willing to give up more than I would have.  I could see a 2nd round pick, maybe a little more In 2024, but that’s a lot of picks for a guy with his injury history.   I guess the 9ers are comfortable rolling with CMC and Lance next year, it’s all they can afford and they have no draft.. yikes.  I don’t see it pushing them over the top, maybe I’m wrong.  Hopefully, it helps them beat KC next week 😂. 

 

Considering the Dolphins have the 49ers 1st round pick, I fully support them going "all in" for this year and then tanking after that. We should all be pulling for the 49ers to make the playoffs and push that pick into the later part of the round.

 

Then with no picks to help Lance, they can tank in 2023, and replace Lance in 2024.

[BuffaloBills1998]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

The NFC is a total crap shoot. Crazier things have happened.

This isn’t the 9ers team of 2020. Jimmy G is terrible, they’ve been hit hard with injuries, their o line is terrible etc. San Fran is sitting at 3-3 right now and is looking at 3-4 this Sunday against KC. 

[RiotAct]

9 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

Bean certainly was not going to give this up

 

yeah… that’s a lot of capital.  We’ll see how it works out for San Fran.  

[Beck Water]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

9ers aren’t going to the SB. That is something most on here can guarantee. They just lost to the falcons last Sunday and their defense is having a hard time stopping the running game. Also Jimmy G is a turnover machine

 

49ers have 9 turnovers on the year, which is A Lot going into week 7.  Bills have more - 10

 

49ers have the #1 D for Y/A in the run game, 3.3 y/a

#2 D for points against

#1 for yards overall

 

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Considering the Dolphins have the 49ers 1st round pick, I fully support them going "all in" for this year and then tanking after that. We should all be pulling for the 49ers to make the playoffs and push that pick into the later part of the round.

 

Then with no picks to help Lance, they can tank in 2023, and replace Lance in 2024.

 

I forget, how did the Mammals get the 49ers 1st?

Edited October 21, 2022 by Beck Water

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

This isn’t the 9ers team of 2020. Jimmy G is terrible, they’ve been hit hard with injuries, their o line is terrible etc. San Fran is sitting at 3-3 right now and is looking at 3-4 this Sunday against KC. 

 

It's not so much about the 49ers as it is the rest of the division and conference.

 

The division is totally up for grabs. This isnt the NFC of 2020 either.

 

Philly is rolling, but with an easy schedule. All the 9ers need to do is beat out the Rams, Seahawks, and Cardinals. Then who knows what happens in the playoffs.

 

 

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Well there’s always Bijan! 

49ers were already a good team, this makes them a lot harder to beat. CMC and Deebo?! I wish we had that. 

Yeah, it only makes sense for an already good team to trade for him.  Of course you’d like to have two additional great players on your team.  Who wouldn’t? I’d rather have our team and win the super bowl without having to give up additional picks-  FOUR draft picks. 
 

would you have sign off on trading a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th for him? 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

9 hours ago, gobills404 said:

Feel like he’s basically gonna be another Deebo in Shanahan’s offense

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

49ers have 9 turnovers on the year, which is A Lot going into week 7.  Bills have more - 10

 

49ers have the #1 D for Y/A in the run game, 3.3 y/a

#2 D for points against

#1 for yards overall

 

I forget, how did the Mammals get the 49ers 1st?

Wasn't that the Trey Lance trade. 

 

They spent (3) 1st-Rounders to move up. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Trust Von. 

OBJ is coming to help us win the trophy. 

This woulda been nice, but I'm resting on Vons word. 

So far, he's delivered on every promise. 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

Would be a pretty decent story line for Josh Allen QB the Bills to victory in Arizona over his childhood team.  A match up Chris Berman has been dreaming about for years. Go Bills. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

49ers are going to be electric to play with on Madden now,

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

This isn’t the 9ers team of 2020. Jimmy G is terrible, they’ve been hit hard with injuries, their o line is terrible etc. San Fran is sitting at 3-3 right now and is looking at 3-4 this Sunday against KC. 

Did you happen to notice the laundry list of players the niners were missing vs Atlanta? They started a practice squad along the DL, OL and secondary.  

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It's not so much about the 49ers as it is the rest of the division and conference.

 

The division is totally up for grabs. This isnt the NFC of 2020 either.

 

Philly is rolling, but with an easy schedule. All the 9ers need to do is beat out the Rams, Seahawks, and Cardinals. Then who knows what happens in the playoffs.

 

 

Dude is clueless.  
 

the division isn’t really up for grabs anymore imo. Rams have the worst OL in the league.  Seattle has Geno.  AZ has a college coach.  I’d be shocked if the niners don’t win the division…..unless cmac gets broken. Again

[Beck Water]

7 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Wasn't that the Trey Lance trade. 

 

They spent (3) 1st-Rounders to move up. 

 

"Ahead of the 2021 NFL Draft, most analysts predicted Lance or Alabama quarterback Mac Jones would be taken third overall by the San Francisco 49ers, who traded up with the Miami Dolphins in exchange for their first-round picks in 2022 and 2023 and their third-round pick in 2022."

 

I feel like this discussion has occurred before, but wouldn't that be spending 1 1st round pick (next year?) 

They swapped 1st rounders this year, and gave up next year's pick.

 

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Did you happen to notice the laundry list of players the niners were missing vs Atlanta? They started a practice squad along the DL, OL and secondary.  

 

Laundry basket still looking pretty full for KC

Edited October 21, 2022 by Beck Water

[klos63]

A lot to give up, but this would have increased our chances of a Super Bowl significantly. Would winning a Super Bowl be worth trading those draft picks. I think so. Teams rarely win one Championship, let alone multiple ones. I'll take one.

[ROCBillsBeliever]

10 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I just hope this means we’re not going after Akers. Just stick with what you have at RB. 

 

If you watched how Ackers run-blocked did everything he could NOT to run-block in the Rams game, you'd know that McBeane wouldn't consider him.

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

"Ahead of the 2021 NFL Draft, most analysts predicted Lance or Alabama quarterback Mac Jones would be taken third overall by the San Francisco 49ers, who traded up with the Miami Dolphins in exchange for their first-round picks in 2022 and 2023 and their third-round pick in 2022."

 

I feel like this discussion has occurred before, but wouldn't that be spending 1 1st round pick (next year?) 

They swapped 1st rounders this year, and gave up next year's pick.

 

 

Laundry basket still looking pretty full for KC

Oh yeah.  They’ll be pretty banged up til after their bye.  It’s looking like looking like Hufanga (who’s been amazing this year), Armstead and Ward are all out. 

but getting Bosa back could be the difference between a W and a L.  Add Trent and you never know.  

[Starr Almighty]

So I was thinking maybe we can offer the 9ers a 4th for him. What do you think?

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

Just now, NewEra said:

Oh yeah.  They’ll be pretty banged up til after their bye.  It’s looking like looking like Hufanga (who’s been amazing this year), Armstead and Ward are all out. 

but getting Bosa back could be the difference between a W and a L.  Add Trent and you never know.  

They rested guys against ATL last week so they could play against KC Sunday. Trent is back and that fixes every issue they’re having on the line. Bosa rested last week and he’ll crush Mahomes this week. If you think Von was able to get to Mahomes, Bosa will do even more damage. He’s playing out of his mind this year. 

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

They rested guys against ATL last week so they could play against KC Sunday. Trent is back and that fixes every issue they’re having on the line. Bosa rested last week and he’ll crush Mahomes this week. If you think Von was able to get to Mahomes, Bosa will do even more damage. He’s playing out of his mind this year. 

 

I hope Bosa and that defense can get after Mahomes but I have a feeling this game is going to be like the Chiefs - Bucs game from a few weeks ago. KC knows they can't fall further behind if they want to catch the Bills for the #1 seed. I expect them to play very well this Sunday. I hope I am wrong.

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

They rested guys against ATL last week so they could play against KC Sunday. Trent is back and that fixes every issue they’re having on the line. Bosa rested last week and he’ll crush Mahomes this week. If you think Von was able to get to Mahomes, Bosa will do even more damage. He’s playing out of his mind this year. 

Well….they “rested” them because they were injured. If they were healthy, they would’ve played.  
 

I agree, Bosa has been the best defensive player in the league this year.  He might even be better than Donald overall.  

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

I would've liked to trade for CMC, but this is absolutely way too much. If I was Beane I wouldn't have offered even half of that. 

 

It's basically a half year rental and then hope he re-negotiates to a more cap friendly deal. 

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

I hope Bosa and that defense can get after Mahomes but I have a feeling this game is going to be like the Chiefs - Bucs game from a few weeks ago. KC knows they can't fall further behind if they want to catch the Bills for the #1 seed. I expect them to play very well this Sunday. I hope I am wrong.

Yeah, it’s going to be tough for the niners to win without Armstead, Hufanga, Ward, mosely, Verrett, ekubam and cast.  Injuries have decimated the D, but Ryan’s has a nice system.  Need the pass rush to force TO’s

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Im in the win at all cost this year camp. Was last year too and wanted a trade for Miller.

However, trading for McCaffrey would not have made us better and would have crippled the ability to find cheap talent to replace guys that they will not be able to afford in the next few years. 

OBJ will cost nothing but cash. I don't think we need him and would pass on him. He's a possession WR coming off ACL tear. Is that really a need for this team?

I beleive Hyde is done as a Bill and three weeks ago I would have argued for a trade for a safety( assuming they don't move White to safety). But Hamlin has played well enough.

 

At this point I say roll with the guys we have.  Beane made the right moves in the off-season to win this year. If healthy the Bills roster is as good as anyone and I really don't see a glaring need anywhere. They are not going to give up on Brown at RT this quick. Would another capable swing OT to replace Doyle/Hart be an upgrade. Sure but its not really needed if Brown can come back quick and Q plays ok.

 

Dance with the one who bring you. Go Bills!!!

[BarleyNY]

10 hours ago, Simon said:

Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make.

This is a good trade for the Bills.

Yup. I’d love to have CMC on the team, but not at that price. 

[Utah John]

Enjoy today and this year and the next couple.  The Bills are in the same situation as Carolina was several years ago, and they were riding high and enjoying life.  Now they're fire-seling their only good player and looking into the dark tunnel of constant rebuilding.  

 

Let's hope McBeane are able to keep the good times rolling.  Probably by holding on to draft picks and cash, to avoid breaking up our beautiful defense.

 

SF needed CMC to get over the top.  We didn't.  

[clearwater cadet]

To me that seem like a lot.

[Einstein's Dog]

4 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Yup. I’d love to have CMC on the team, but not at that price. 

I know the price looks like a lot, but is it really more than the Bills 1st and Moss?   I'd have been a happy camper to have CMC for that.

 

Didn't it take a 4th for the Bills to move up 3-4 spots in the first.  San Fran will have a low 2nd and low 3rd.  It seems like all those picks combined might equal the Bills 1st.

 

 

[Logic]

The move makes a ton of sense for San Francisco.

The NFC -- including their own division, the NFC West -- is wide open. 

They have an elite defense, some great skill position pieces, and a guy in Garoppolo who had them within a quarter of winning a Super Bowl.

The only problem is that their offense rely relies on a sound running threat, and their running backs just CAN NOT stay healthy. Kind of ironic, then, that they're bringing in CMC of all people, but I don't want to go off on an injury tangent.

Anyway, in the short term this gives them a very diverse and moveable set of skill players -- Deebo, CMC, Kittle, Aiyuk, and Juczyk are all multi-skilled chess pieces -- which should maximize Jimmy G's skillset as a physically limited game manager. In the long term, it gives them a theoretically fierce run game to keep them competitive while Trey Lance recovers and tries to re-claim the starting job.

Aside from all of that, I would have to assume that Shanahan knows CMC pretty well from the connection their Dads share.

Lastly...this is a rough move for Elijah Mitchell and Jeff Wilson fantasy shareholders 😅
 

Edited October 21, 2022 by Logic

[Captain Hindsight]

10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Normally I'd agree, but have you seen the NFC?

 

Outside of Eagles...

This is a very fair point. For the Bills that much doesn’t make sense, the Niners could make the Super Bowl with an extra weapon like CMC 

[Mango]

10 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

guessing what…a 2nd and 2 3rds?

 

The Bills have 20+ contracts expiring and are currently over next years estimated cap. I am glad we didn't pull the trigger on this. 

[The Frankish Reich]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Anyway, in the short term this gives them a very diverse and moveable set of skill players -- Deebo, CMC, Kittle, Aiyuk, and Juczyk are all multi-skilled chess pieces -- which should maximize Jimmy G's skillset as a physically limited game manager. In the long term, it gives them a theoretically fierce run game to keep them competitive while Trey Lance recovers and tries to re-claim the starting job.

Or when Tom Brady takes over at QB next year. Imagine the double TE lineup when Gronk and Kittle line up on opposite sides for Tommy. 

[DJB]

1 hour ago, Greg S said:

 

Beane didn't want to pay the price and that is all that matters. CMC is elite when healthy but that is a big if. If the Bills make any moves before the trade deadline I hope it's to improve the OL.

An OL upgrade is definitely needed for sure. Hopefully it happens.

 

Its time to go all in. We need to make some moves and upgrade

[BillsShredder83]

9 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It really isn't though. When you don't have a QB, every move you make should be about setting yourself up to get one. The 49ers have hit the absolute ceiling of a team with a mediocre QB - make the Super Bowl and lose to a superior QB. Their rushing offense has been really good for years. The more I think about this trade the less it makes sense.

I mean they don't exactly know what they have in Trey Lance. There's no way they can give up what they did for him to move on after one slop fest game, and an injury start 2.

[DrDawkinstein]

59 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I forget, how did the Mammals get the 49ers 1st?

 

The trade up for Lance, lol

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Did you happen to notice the laundry list of players the niners were missing vs Atlanta? They started a practice squad along the DL, OL and secondary.  

Dude is clueless.  
 

the division isn’t really up for grabs anymore imo. Rams have the worst OL in the league.  Seattle has Geno.  AZ has a college coach.  I’d be shocked if the niners don’t win the division…..unless cmac gets broken. Again

 

20 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

This is a very fair point. For the Bills that much doesn’t make sense, the Niners could make the Super Bowl with an extra weapon like CMC 

 

 

It's like out-running a bear. You dont need to be the fastest person on Earth, you just need to be faster than your friends.