Beck Water Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea a game and a chunky fine feels about right. Dick move but he was frustrated. I didn't see a replay of the overturned catch on the final drive... was it definitely incomplete? Yeah, it really was. Adams was juggling the ball but acted like he had it tucked away and took a big stride instead of toe dragging And believe me, I would have been DELIGHTED for that catch to be ruled complete. Edited October 11, 2022 by Beck Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 It was sad to see that. I'm a fan of his, but that's just poor behavior, from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I don’t condone what Adams did, but this weakling filing a police report and brazenly hunting for a payday is gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Where'd you see this? I just googled it. Nothing. check out who the Raiders are playing next week (Week 6). I don’t think they’ll really miss him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, RiotAct said: check out who the Raiders are playing next week (Week 6). I don’t think they’ll really miss him! Seems the whole team won't be needed for Week 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Fine him $1mill and give it to the poor camerman doing his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 13 hours ago, RiotAct said: his apology was pretty half assed. Almost made it sound like the cameraman’s fault Was the cameraman trying to walk in front of Adams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Better Call Saul and only in America, this shakedown artist… DID! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: If he gets a fine, or suspension, it's because professional conduct doesn't end when the clock runs out. The photographer was literally doing his job. It's akin to a flag. The fact that a player is sorry that he roughed the passer is irrelevant. You don't flag based on intent. Bowling over an onfield photographer is clearly stepping over the line of professional conduct-- much more so than roughing the passer, IMO And for all the people saying "don't step in front of the players..." understand that getting all those shots that we love to see is literally the responsibility of the photographer and the player being photographed. The NFL is a business, and quality coverage before, during, and after the game is intrinsic to that. Sure but like to lead the charge demanding a suspension? Why lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 So should Wagner be suspended for tackling the streaker, please discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 This doesn’t seem like a big deal 🤷♂️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Saw this tweeted as "Actual Footage of Davonte Adams" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Rockpile233 said: I don’t condone what Adams did, but this weakling filing a police report and brazenly hunting for a payday is gross. You got no idea whether or not this guy was hurt, whether it will affect his ability to work and earn a paycheck, whether he has medical insurance, whether his equipment was damaged but Yeah. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 13 hours ago, corta765 said: So after the game media is explicitly told not to be in the way its basically a no fly zone at that area of the end zone let alone being in the middle. The shove 100% was not warranted and had he helped the guy get up its a non issue. Even though the dude 100% should not have been there and made a major mistake in his own right, the action still was not justified and the NFL may use Adams as an example behavior wise while probably quietly taking that guys media credentials for a bit. Lol you think the NFL is gonna pull that guys media credentials after he was pushed by an frustrated player. They probably already have a nice big figure they are willing to settle this matter as quickly and quietly as possible. They aren't gonna give the guy more reasons to sue the NFL. Don't know if they will suspend him as other angles do show how the guy just ran in front of Adams quiet suddenly. The real damage was he did appear to just walk on by after without any hesitation despite looking at the guy as he fell down. Anybody could react with a reflexive shove if someone popped up in front of them as they are walking but most people would at least help the person they knocked over up and ensure they were uninjured. I hope the guy didn't suffer any injuries, and we really won't be sure as I'm sure there will be NDA's as part of the settlements he'll receive from the Raiders and from Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Don't be such a snowflake! Its a violent physical passionate game. Adams plays his ass off for 3 and a half hours. The Raiders lose at the end. Adams' catch down the sideline is ruled not a catch in the last 2 minutes. Then on 4th down he and Renfroe collide. The guy is going to be a little bit pissed. Sure its not a good look. But he didn't pummel the guy. And he apologized. End of story. My son plays college football. He is so pissed after a loss, he won't even go shake hands w the opposing team. He just walks straight to the locker room. If you were leaving work after a real tough emotional day, and as you walk out of your office someone jumps right out in front of you, what are you going to do? You get where I am coming from bro? Have you spent time in prison? Asking for a friend... The cameraman fell backwards on his butt carrying a bunch of equipment. He could not have remotely been mistaken for a player of the opposing team, which would be a bit more understandable, but not necessarily excusable. I said he should be suspended for a game, not banned from the NFL. That was a pretty serious action on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Bills2022 said: I won't be shocked if he gets 2-4 games for this. That guy could have been hurt pretty badly. A 1 game suspension and fine is usually reserved for trivial things. This is actually a big deal. If this was a woman he would be suspended for the year. The guy could have been hurt pretty badly? Yeah I guess any time you fall backwards you can get hurt. But it is a known risk of being a field cameraman. How many times have you seen camerapersons on the sideline get hammered as a player went out of bounds. Fwiw, I think a criminal case for this push is silly. Fine him 100K and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 hours ago, pennstate10 said: The guy could have been hurt pretty badly? Yeah I guess any time you fall backwards you can get hurt. But it is a known risk of being a field cameraman. How many times have you seen camerapersons on the sideline get hammered as a player went out of bounds. Fwiw, I think a criminal case for this push is silly. Fine him 100K and call it a day. I don't like the fact the guy filed charges with the police, but if he had hit his head and was hurt badly, Adams would be going to jail. And there is a big difference between being hurt during a play and when a guy intentionally hits you. If you can't see that you are clueless. I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Bills2022 said: I won't be shocked if he gets 2-4 games for this. That guy could have been hurt pretty badly. A 1 game suspension and fine is usually reserved for trivial things. This is actually a big deal. If this was a woman he would be suspended for the year. as d-bag of a move as it was, i'm not in the multiple game category. i'd be a little surprised if it's more than one game, but we'll see how the nfl wants to handle this. i mean, you certainly can't pull this off at work without repercussion, and the nfl is a job for these guys. a fine, one game out, (which i also think includes the salary for that game) and now attorney troubles. i have to imagine that gets the point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, teef said: as d-bag of a move as it was, i'm not in the multiple game category. i'd be a little surprised if it's more than one game, but we'll see how the nfl wants to handle this. i mean, you certainly can't pull this off at work without repercussion, and the nfl is a job for these guys. a fine, one game out, (which i also think includes the salary for that game) and now attorney troubles. i have to imagine that gets the point across. The fact the guy filed charges with the KC police puts the NFL in a tough spot. I honestly think the NFL is going to land on two games, but if Adams was smart he would pay the guy to settle and then negotiate a 1 game suspension. He is screwed if this goes to court. You can't really argue with video and the DA and Assault Unit Detectives really have no choice but to charge him. Once the guy filed the assault claim Adams was screwed. Pay the guy and make it go away. Edited October 12, 2022 by Bills2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, Bills2022 said: The fact the guy filed charges with the KC police puts the NFL in a tough spot. I honestly think the NFL is going to land on two games, but if Adams was smart he would pay the guy to settle and then negotiate a 1 game suspension. He is screwed if this goes to court. You can't really argue with video and the DA and Assault Unit Detectives really have no choice but to charge him once the guy filed the assault claim. Pay the guy and make it go away. yeah...it's definitely on how the nfl wants to handle it at this point. it happened on national tv after a primetime game, so it's just not something you can sweep under the rug. i agree that whatever adams does to get rid of this would be in his best interest. if he can make it go away quietly/quickly, i don't think anyone will care in a few weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Flucod said: So should Wagner be suspended for tackling the streaker, please discuss! Streakers are committing a crime and one could argue posing a threat to Wagner and all the players. The guy with the camera was doing his job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 16 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: Just so it's clear. If your emotions are high aaand your an athlete you can push a dude to the ground. So when my emotions are high and a coworker walks in front of me, can I then shove them to the ground or no? Do I have to be an athlete to be afforded this luxury? I don't think anyone would give me grace whatsoever. Why is that? Is it because I don't make millions entertaining people? Honestly if the camera guy was any of your wives or kids and some random schmuck did this the excuses would not be existent. Im not saying it was a life threatening shove or that the camera guy should seek legal actions, but I'm also not going to think that it was ok. Thats just my opinion and although I may not agree with a lot of them out there that are defending Adams, I do value those opinions as well. Not really precedence but a local 10-11 year old football had their entire season suspended for an accusation that one of the boys slapped a cheerleaders arm too hard in the high five line and left a welt. That ended up being 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Not really precedence but a local 10-11 year old football had their entire season suspended for an accusation that one of the boys slapped a cheerleaders arm too hard in the high five line and left a welt. That ended up being 5 games. I should be surprised but I'm not. I'm a teacher and some of the stuff parents get mad about is crazy at times. I had a kid steal from me once. The item was brand new, still had the sticker on it and I had the receipt in my wallet. I called the parent and she defended him saying they just bought it last night. Maybe the tie in right now is when did we start defending things that deep down we know are wrong? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Shortchaz said: This doesn’t seem like a big deal 🤷♂️ So, if he assaulted you, you would be okay with that, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) I've been finding myself disagreeing with Florio a lot, but I think he got this one right: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/josh-mcdaniels-we-e2-80-99ll-comply-with-whatever-nfl-asks-needs-in-davante-adams-investigation/ar-AA12SC9G Basically says in the video, that the NFL expects players to have an instant on/instant off switch where they turn it off immediately after the play, and that's totally unrealistic. But says it's part of managing your emotions, if you know you're still revved up on a hair trigger from the game: stay on the sideline a bit, don't put yourself in a situation where you have to wade through a "sea of humanity". Or, I would add, "buddy up" and ask an assistant coach or a trainer or another player to run interference for you. 18 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Where'd you see this? I just googled it. Nothing. There's nothing. Suspensions/fines and other NFL actions usually come out on Weds, that is to say, today. 13 hours ago, Flucod said: So should Wagner be suspended for tackling the streaker, please discuss! Are you seriously making an analogy between stopping a non-credentialed person that has absolutely no business on the field and could pose a threat to coaches and players, vs. laying hands on a credentialed photographer there to capture candid photos of players, in a league which specifically requires players to cooperate with PR and with the press? Please discuss. Edited October 12, 2022 by Beck Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 If I were him I'd have asked for 10 years of season tickets and 100k plus some signed stuff and called it a day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, Bandito said: https://www.outkick.com/davante-adams-charged-with-misdemeanor-assault/ Called it! You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to get one past you! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Pretty sure I wouldn't press charges unless I have real injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bandito said: Even @teef and @Royale with Cheese didn't get it right! i do the best i can! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Pretty sure I wouldn't press charges unless I have real injuries. Yeah, this is a joke. I'm sorry, but the guy pressing charges can kick rocks 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cle23 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Virgil said: Yeah, this is a joke. I'm sorry, but the guy pressing charges can kick rocks I don't think people should press charges for every little situation, but I'm fine with this one. If some dude walked up, punched you, and walked away, and you had no "real" injuries, it still warrants punishment. Adams was completely unwarranted in what he did to a guy who had zero to do with him at all. I'm not saying Adams should be punished severely either, but it warrants some punishment. It honestly is probably a way for the guy to press a settlement out of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Charges are probably a means to gain leverage for the lawsuit. I’m sure Adams’ lawyers are already digging through the freelance photographers social media, etc to find out if he is a long term chiefs fan, litigious, etc. They can also attempt to move any trial outside of the area due to jury bias due from fandom as well. This could be interesting if it isn’t settled and swept under the rug. Regardless of that, there will definitely be some changes to protocol going forward. There will be language written into contracts with networks and freelance employees. Likely extra security clearing out the tunnels…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, cle23 said: I don't think people should press charges for every little situation, but I'm fine with this one. If some dude walked up, punched you, and walked away, and you had no "real" injuries, it still warrants punishment. Adams was completely unwarranted in what he did to a guy who had zero to do with him at all. I'm not saying Adams should be punished severely either, but it warrants some punishment. It honestly is probably a way for the guy to press a settlement out of him. You hear about people who end up dying from stuff like this when they hi their head on the ground and end up in a coma and have to be pulled off life support. People think it's a joke but shoving some dude carrying equipment without any real way of protecting himself is a great way to cause something like that. Gotta be responsible for your actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandito said: Even @teef and @Royale with Cheese didn't get it right! Congratulations. Are you popping the champagne tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: If I were him I'd have asked for 10 years of season tickets and 100k plus some signed stuff and called it a day. Just a guess, but if Adams had stopped, helped the guy up, asked if he was OK, and either asked for his card or asked a staffer to offer a contact number to "make good" any equipment damage/medical bills/lost work, and maybe some swag - my guess is the photog would quite likely have "called it a day". Those guys depend upon the goodwill and good relationships with players to do their best work. 'Course, watching a Raiders player get sued likely won't hurt his relations with Chiefs players and personnel too badly 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Rapaport blacking out the photographer's name and address at the top of the form, but leaving his first and last name clearly visible in the complaint. Isn't he the one who leaked the photos of JPP's mangled finger from his confidential medical records? Or was that Schefter? Edited October 12, 2022 by Beck Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Just a guess, but if Adams had stopped, helped the guy up, asked if he was OK, and either asked for his card or asked a staffer to offer a contact number to "make good" any equipment damage/medical bills/lost work, and maybe some swag - my guess is the photog would quite likely have "called it a day". Those guys depend upon the goodwill and good relationships with players to do their best work. 'Course, watching a Raiders player get sued likely won't hurt his relations with Chiefs players and personnel too badly Rapaport blacking out the photographer's name and address at the top of the form, but leaving his first and last name clearly visible in the complaint. Isn't he the one who leaked the photos of JPP's mangled finger from his confidential medical records? Or was that Schefter? That's actually Adams' address. Someone (tv station journalist AND the TV station) posted the entire document showing everything. I think Schefter was the one who leaked the JPP stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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