Christian McCaffrey rumors

[NoSaint]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Agreed.

Motor runs with more power and makes more people miss.

suuuuuure. 

[ArtVandalay]

11 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Agreed.

Motor runs with more power and makes more people miss.

I'll have some of what this guy's smoking!

[Simon]

19 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

suuuuuure. 

 

I just watched a highlight video that consisted of either A) McCaffrey running through a gaping hole and usually being put on the ground by the first tackler or B) McCaffrey catching a bunch of circle routes and checkdowns for 8 yards.

The only thing he does better than Singletary is catching the ball naturally and the screen game is barely a second thought in this offense.

I have zero interest in giving up any draft capital that we're desperately going to need to maintain a winning franchise with Allen when we're pressed hard up against the cap, when the return is going to be the rental of an older guy at a devalued position that is no better than what we already have.

12 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

I'll have some of what this guy's smoking!

 ' ere .........

[UKBillFan]

18 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

More power than McCaffrey? More misses than him? Please don't get me wrong but I am the world's most renown, leading expert on all things McCaffrey and it seems you haven't done your homework if this is what you are insinuating...

Singletary is more reliable than McCaffrey though. I’m amazed the latter hasn’t broken down with a season ending injury already.

[NoSaint]

20 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I just watched a highlight video that consisted of either A) McCaffrey running through a gaping hole and usually being put on the ground by the first tackler or B) McCaffrey catching a bunch of circle routes and checkdowns for 8 yards.

The only thing he does better than Singletary is catching the ball naturally and the screen game is barely a second thought in this offense.

I have zero interest in giving up any draft capital that we're desperately going to need to maintain a winning franchise with Allen when we're pressed hard up against the cap, when the return is going to be the rental of an older guy at a devalued position that is no better than what we already have.

 ' ere .........

well, shoot I wasn’t aware you watched a highlight video. I defer to your expertise I guess.

[Solomon Grundy]

21 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I just watched a highlight video that consisted of either A) McCaffrey running through a gaping hole and usually being put on the ground by the first tackler or B) McCaffrey catching a bunch of circle routes and checkdowns for 8 yards.

The only thing he does better than Singletary is catching the ball naturally and the screen game is barely a second thought in this offense.

I have zero interest in giving up any draft capital that we're desperately going to need to maintain a winning franchise with Allen when we're pressed hard up against the cap, when the return is going to be the rental of an older guy at a devalued position that is no better than what we already have.

 ' ere .........

The screen game was supposed to be a big part of their offense this season according to Dorsey.

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

well, shoot I wasn’t aware you watched a highlight video. I defer to your expertise I guess.

The posted video I referred to was what started the discussion.

But thanks for the insulting snark for giving my opinion.

2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

The screen game was supposed to be a big part of their offense this season according to Dorsey.

Not with this OLine, it won't be.

I currently couldn't find our screen game with a map and a compass.

[Reed83HOF]

10 minutes ago, Simon said:

I currently couldn't find our screen game with a map and a compass.

What's a map and compass?

[Sherlock Holmes]

40 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I just watched a highlight video that consisted of either A) McCaffrey running through a gaping hole and usually being put on the ground by the first tackler or B) McCaffrey catching a bunch of circle routes and checkdowns for 8 yards.

The only thing he does better than Singletary is catching the ball naturally and the screen game is barely a second thought in this offense.

I have zero interest in giving up any draft capital that we're desperately going to need to maintain a winning franchise with Allen when we're pressed hard up against the cap, when the return is going to be the rental of an older guy at a devalued position that is no better than what we already have.

 ' ere .........

You watched the wrong videos... also why would we rent McCaffrey? He should be extended for as long as Josh is here. While we are at it we should trade for Kuechly and play him only during playoffs and Super Bowl, he then coaches during regular season games...

23 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

well, shoot I wasn’t aware you watched a highlight video. I defer to your expertise I guess.

He really should be paying me for my expertise in this field known as McCaffrology🧐

[Patrick Duffy]

12 minutes ago, Simon said:

Not with this OLine, it won't be.

I currently couldn't find our screen game with a map and a compass.

 

This is one of the areas I think is more important to address if trading picks that are of any value. While the OL has been fairly decent I'd prefer see what could be done there 1st

[BADOLBILZ]

7 hours ago, SWATeam said:

That's right!

 

Plus, I predict McCaffery will be working radio by years end anyways!

 

What's Mike Gillislee up too?  Maybe we could bring him back and right the wrong of letting him and his 5.7 YPC go.  That could fix the RB room

 

Plus, why would McCaffery want to come to a franchise that hired a defensive minded HC (Jauron 2.0) when we had the opportunity to get with the times and hire a guy like Reich?  And that hired the coach before the GM!  That will never work!

 

You're a legend.

 

 

I was wrong about how long Shady was willing to tarnish his rep by playing as a sub-league average RB..........I thought for sure he'd stop playing when he stopped being paid big bucks..........though ultimately I was right that he would become a third rate talking head.   And he's awful at it.  

 

The Gillislee story was funny..........I simply said the Bills should have given him the slightly more expensive,  but still cheap, higher tender and you weaklings tried to troll me like I was over valuing the RB position .........that don't work.........everyone knows I don't value the RB position.    But, ya' know there IS a baseline for adequate RB play........and turrible, washed-up Mike Tolbert wasn't up to the task.   And,  as I predicted Shady fell off a cliff while he would have STILL been on his Eagles contract......... with his ypc dropping a yard and a half.

 

And the story behind the "Jauron 2.0" fabrication was people like yourself who insisted that McBeane were tanking to get the #1 overall pick in the summer of 2017............while I said they were NOT tanking but rather planning to Jauron-ball their way into the hunt.    As usual........I was right.

 

As for whether they should have hired Beane in January of 2017?   Absolutely.   It made no sense to do it the way they did.   Maybe Josh Allen can eventually largely erase that mistake but the QB they traded because they didn't have the GM of the future in place has won a league MVP and a SB and been to 2 SB's and 4 straight AFCCG's and eliminated the Bills twice.    Facts.   So yeah..........they basically created their own biggest obstacle with that dicking around they did with the GM position..........likely knowing full well they were going to hire Beane all along.    

 

But yes.........thanks for pointing out some excellent takes by me......appreciate it. 

 

 

[unbillievable]

Which would you rather see happen?

 

Bills trade 1st for CMC

or

Chiefs trade 1st for CMC

[Buffalo Ballin]

7 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Which would you rather see happen?

 

Bills trade 1st for CMC

or

Chiefs trade 1st for CMC

Chiefs trade. CMC is not worth a first rounder. It's smart to keep our first rounder and replenish our secondary.

[mannc]

23 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Which would you rather see happen?

 

Bills trade 1st for CMC

or

Chiefs trade 1st for CMC

Neither team would be foolish enough to make that trade.

[mannc]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't think he's going to sign for pennis on the dollar, either. 

I certainly hope not.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

27 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Chiefs trade. CMC is not worth a first rounder. It's smart to keep our first rounder and replenish our secondary.

We’re talking a 30th-32nd pick. Let’s be realistic. You never have that many 1st round prospect grades in any given year. So we’re basically talking about a 2nd round graded player at our 1st round pick in 2023.

 

I think the key with McCaffery is the contract. Is he open to a restructure and possible pay cut to finish out his career in Buffalo. 
 

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Buffalo Ballin]

38 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We’re talking a 30th-32nd pick. Let’s be realistic. You never have that many 1st round prospect grades in any given year. So we’re basically talking about a 2nd round graded player at our 1st round pick in 2023.

 

I think the key with McCaffery is the contract. Is he open to a restructure and possible pay cut to finish out his career in Buffalo. 
 

 

 

 

McCaffery is always injured now. That's why he's not worth a first rounder, or 2nd, or 3rd. Respectively, McCaffery is performing great in fantasy stats, but his prior years, he's always injured.

 

Now, we also have to get replacements for Micah Hyde, and Jordan Poyer, to coach up. I prefer we keep our picks to draft defensive players because our current ones are on the wrong side of 30.

Edited October 20, 2022 by Buffalo Ballin

[Scott7975]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We’re talking a 30th-32nd pick. Let’s be realistic. You never have that many 1st round prospect grades in any given year. So we’re basically talking about a 2nd round graded player at our 1st round pick in 2023.

 

I think the key with McCaffery is the contract. Is he open to a restructure and possible pay cut to finish out his career in Buffalo. 
 

 

 

 

 

There is always the option to package together picks and move up.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

McCaffery is always injured now. That's why he's not worth a first rounder, or 2nd, or 3rd. Respectively, McCaffery is performing great in fantasy stats, but his prior years, he's always injured.

 

Now, we also have to get replacements for Micah Hyde, and Jordan Poyer, to coach up. I prefer we keep our picks to draft defensive players because our current ones are on the wrong side of 30.

Ankle sprain, Ankle sprain, hammy, thigh strain, and shoulder sprain over a 2 year period. 

 

A lot of injuries in only 2 years yes, but sometimes you’re just unlucky. Before that he missed 1 game in his entire football life. That includes 3 full NFL seasons.

 

We’re replacing 1 of Poyer/Hyde next year with a cheap option. Likely already on the team in Hamlin. Bills can restructure Josh Allen to creat a lot of space.

 

The biggest thing is with Josh Allen’s contract the Bills can push a lot of cap into the future and worry about it years down the road. Cap wise we’re good. 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Buffalo Ballin]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We’re replacing 1 of Poyer/Hyde next year with a cheap option. Likely already on the team in Hamlin. Bills can restructure Josh Allen to creat a lot of space.

 

The biggest thing is with Josh Allen’s contract the Bills can push a lot of cap into the future and worry about it years down the road. Cap wise we’re good. 

So much speculation and assumptions. Please don't.

 

On your previous post regarding McCaffery, you also speculated that he'll take a pay cut to be on this team. Fat chance.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

27 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

So much speculation and assumptions. Please don't.

 

On your previous post regarding McCaffery, you also speculated that he'll take a pay cut to be on this team. Fat chance.

I didn’t speculate he will do anything. I said trading for him will depend on his willingness to restructure or possibly take a pay cut. 
 

Running back contracts have fallen some. I can definitely see him taking a pay cut, if not he’ll see himself as a UFA after the season and be forced into a pay cut. 

[Buffalo Ballin]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I didn’t speculate he will do anything. I said trading for him will depend on his willingness to restructure or possibly take a pay cut. 
 

Running back contracts have fallen some. I can definitely see him taking a pay cut, if not he’ll see himself as a UFA after the season and be forced into a pay cut. 

Under your posts, you're stating conditions to get CMC. It's not simple to get him and I wouldn't go after him when obstacles are in place.

 

I'd love to have him. Just under the right price tag. In other words, a cheap deal.

 

From what I'm reading regarding rumors from Carolina Panthers, they want 1st round pick in return. Who else knows what they want. They view CMC highly and rightfully so.

 

Also, CMC is in the prime of his career and you're wishing that he takes a pay cut? He's looking for one more big pay day. You go tell CMC, "hey take a pay cut to be here, dude" while other teams will not tell him that. Let's see how that works out.

 

Yeah, the chances of him taking a pay cut are extremely low.

Edited October 20, 2022 by Buffalo Ballin

[Airseven]

First round pick is too pricey for a middle-aged, injury-prone RB no matter his current ability level. Bills have depth issues now and plenty more holes this off-season given their pending UFAs. Can only mortgage the draft (and cheap rookie contracts) in the absolute ideal scenario which is not McCaffrey.

[nucci]

16 hours ago, Beast said:

The Bills will be fine.

we have decent WR depth. We have little RB depth

[Buffalo_Stampede]

30 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Under your posts, you're stating conditions to get CMC. It's not simple to get him and I wouldn't go after him when obstacles are in place.

 

I'd love to have him. Just under the right price tag. In other words, a cheap deal.

 

From what I'm reading regarding rumors from Carolina Panthers, they want 1st round pick in return. Who else knows what they want. They view CMC highly and rightfully so.

 

Also, CMC is in the prime of his career and you're wishing that he takes a pay cut? He's looking for one more big pay day. You go tell CMC, "hey take a pay cut to be here, dude" while other teams will not tell him that. Let's see how that works out.

 

Yeah, the chances of him taking a pay cut are extremely low.

I’m not worrying about draft picks too much.

 

There’s many layers to a CMC trade. I mean there’s the rental and then there’s the long-term future. He could be a rental or long-term. I think for him to be long-term he’ll have to adjust his contract. Pay cut doesn’t have to mean half his salary. It could be a small amount. 
 

And I said restructure or pay cut. Pay cut will happen over the next 2-3 years either way. Take it now with Buffalo, maybe even get some extra guaranteed money and upfront money now. There are ways to make it happen. 
 

Let me add that I’m trading for CMC even if he’s a rental. Carolina can ask for 2 1sts but they won’t get it. I’m not worried about losing 1 late 1st. I would rather trade 1 late 1st then trade multiple middle round picks.

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[SWATeam]

10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

But yes.........thanks for pointing out some excellent takes by me......appreciate it. 

 

 

No problem, it's always fun to rehash your genius!

 

I particularly liked your prediction this offseason that we were going to take the ball out of Josh's hands and become a more run heavy offense because we signed a depth tackle from the Titans!  Can't make this stuff up...

 

At least you'll always have your Robert Royal takes and that one thread you made about Aaron Donald being good.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

No problem, it's always fun to rehash your genius!

 

I particularly liked your prediction this offseason that we were going to take the ball out of Josh's hands and become a more run heavy offense because we signed a depth tackle from the Titans!  Can't make this stuff up...

 

At least you'll always have your Robert Royal takes and that one thread you made about Aaron Donald being good.

 

 

You see.........that's why you are always wrong.   Expanding and exaggerating my takes.

 

 I've never said the Bills were going to become a run-heavy team.   That's absurd.  You imagine things when you read.

 

I said they signed two poor pass blocking/good run blocking OL in Saffold and Quessenberry.    That's a fact........Quessenberry in particular lead the NFL in sacks allowed by an OT last season.

 

I envisioned more of an offense like they ran against the Chiefs Sunday........with Allen under center more often and using traditional play action.   Because that makes more sense than having bad pass blockers in a two point stance with the QB in shotgun all day and every running play effectively being a delayed handoff or draw.

 

There has been a mixture of A LOT of different offense........an unsung story of this season is that they are evolving to a point as an offense where they can really be broadly game plan specific for opponents.   Some people worried about Dorsey being a drop-off.......I did not.........and instead they've gotten more advanced.

 

But the traditional play action opens up more downfield passing for more yards per play and less wear and tear on a good but thin receiving corps............and the running game actually functions when the lineman are put in position to succeed.   That is what their personnel is best suited to do well and we saw that against the best opponent they've faced this season.

 

It's quite comical how you and a few others try to re-frame my takes.  The trolling doesn't work on me. 

[BarleyNY]

7 hours ago, unbillievable said:

Which would you rather see happen?

 

Bills trade 1st for CMC

or

Chiefs trade 1st for CMC

This is an excellent question to discuss. Going into the KC game I wondered if the loser would make a move for CMC or another player. Let’s face it - the AFC (maybe NFL) is a two horse race. CMC would be more in line with help for the Bills while a WR would be more in line with the Chefs tho. Still, CMC would help them too. 
 

If I had to pick one of those two choices I’d have to say Bills. We’d be deeper at RB and would have widened our talent gap with the Chefs. Our chances of getting the #1 seed, beating them in the playoffs and winning the SB this season would be improved. I don’t know that I make that move at that price, but that wasn’t a choice in the hypothetical.

[Don Otreply]

64 pages, Any renderings yet? 

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You see.........that's why you are always wrong.   Expanding and exaggerating my takes.

 

 I've never said the Bills were going to become a run-heavy team.   That's absurd.  You imagine things when you read.

 

I said they signed two poor pass blocking/good run blocking OL in Saffold and Quessenberry.    That's a fact........Quessenberry in particular lead the NFL in sacks allowed by an OT last season.

 

I envisioned more of an offense like they ran against the Chiefs Sunday........with Allen under center more often and using traditional play action.   Because that makes more sense than having bad pass blockers in a two point stance with the QB in shotgun all day and every running play effectively being a delayed handoff or draw.

 

There has been a mixture of A LOT of different offense........an unsung story of this season is that they are evolving to a point as an offense where they can really be broadly game plan specific for opponents.   Some people worried about Dorsey being a drop-off.......I did not.........and instead they've gotten more advanced.

 

But the traditional play action opens up more downfield passing for more yards per play and less wear and tear on a good but thin receiving corps............and the running game actually functions when the lineman are put in position to succeed.   That is what their personnel is best suited to do well and we saw that against the best opponent they've faced this season.

 

It's quite comical how you and a few others try to re-frame my takes.  The trolling doesn't work on me. 

You do sort of ask for it, but this is very sound analysis.

[unbillievable]

Similar to Von MIller and Jordan Phillips, CMC may find it easier to have only 15 touches instead of 30 a game.

 

I can imagine it will be less wear and tear on his body. Save him for the bad weather games.

Edited October 20, 2022 by unbillievable

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We’re talking a 30th-32nd pick. Let’s be realistic. You never have that many 1st round prospect grades in any given year. So we’re basically talking about a 2nd round graded player at our 1st round pick in 2023

This is how I felt about the selection of Breece Hall with the pick in last year's draft

[Sherlock Holmes]

9 hours ago, mannc said:

I certainly hope not.

You know what I think lol

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

we have decent WR depth. We have little RB depth

We do have Duke Johnson sitting on the practice squad at this immediate time I’m not for bringing him up because I want to see the bills do a two back system and we need to see what we have in James Cook

[nucci]

12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

We do have Duke Johnson sitting on the practice squad at this immediate time I’m not for bringing him up because I want to see the bills do a two back system and we need to see what we have in James Cook

I get that but would not want to depend on Cook in the playoffs...

[Warriorspikes51]

Make them include Blackshear in the trade

 

[Steel City Mafia]

 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Steel City Mafia said:

 

I love still in progress tweets.

[Special K]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I love still in progress tweets.

"Nothing has happened yet.....and nothing continues to be happening......we will keep you informed of all the nothing that is not happening until something happens..........back to you." 🙂

[galept]

Standby to standby