unbillievable Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 If nothing happens by the trade deadline, something might happen in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, Special K said: "Nothing has happened yet.....and nothing continues to be happening......we will keep you informed of all the nothing that is not happening until something happens..........back to you." 🙂 Thanks for nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) This feels like one of those instances where the team with the player on the trade block refuses to budge because they want compensation in return that no one is willing to give, then they eventually end up outright releasing the player the next offseason and not getting anything in return anyway. That's what I predict will happen. Panthers hold firm because they have unrealistic expectations for what McCaffrey should fetch, then a new coach comes in next season and they end up releasing McCaffrey for cap savings and the team gets nothing. Meanwhile, Beane has at times shown a tendency not to give up on players he wants once he's decided he wants them. He tried to trade for Diggs, got rebuffed, then came back a season later and got him. He tried unsuccessfully to trade for Emmanuel Sanders, then circled back and signed him in free agency. He tried to sign John Brown, failed, and then signed him a season or two later. If the Panthers do end up holding on to McCaffrey past the trade deadline, I can't help but wonder if the Bills still ultimately end up getting him either via trade or free agency further on down the line. Â Edited October 20, 2022 by Logic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) With where we are drafting and the standing of our team and talent, I would rather deal 1st rounder than both a 2nd and 3rd. With where we draft, our cap getting close the need for replenishing depth, I would much rather take the 2 and 3 over the 1 with CMC in return.  Even if we don't make a trade here i would be happy to trade our first and gather multple 2/3 picks. For cap, depth, talent reasons. Edited October 20, 2022 by ArtVandalay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Logic said: This feels like one of those instances where the team with the player on the trade block refuses to budge because they want compensation in return that no one is willing to give, then they eventually end up outright releasing the player the next offseason and not getting anything in return anyway. That's what I predict will happen. Panthers hold firm because they have unrealistic expectations for what McCaffrey should fetch, then a new coach comes in next season and they end up releasing McCaffrey for cap savings and the team gets nothing. Meanwhile, Beane has at times shown a tendency not to give up on players he wants once he's decided he wants them. He tried to trade for Diggs, got rebuffed, then came back a season later and got him. He tried unsuccessfully to trade for Emmanuel Sanders, then circled back and signed him in free agency. He tried to sign John Brown, failed, and then signed him a season or two later. If the Panthers do end up holding on to McCaffrey past the trade deadline, I can't help but wonder if the Bills still ultimately end up getting him either via trade or free agency further on down the line. Â I think the Panthers are trying to maximize the trade value by letting this play out until the deadline unless some team really steps up before then. Sure CMC might get injured and become un-tradable in the next couple games, but a number of other backs might get hurt and create urgency on the part of their playoff hopeful team. It just takes one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Steel City Mafia said: Â lot of sources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 ESPN Charlotte reporter says could happen in the next 48 hours. The fact that this intensifying this week tells me that we could be the major player here. Â Â 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Special K said: "Nothing has happened yet.....and nothing continues to be happening......we will keep you informed of all the nothing that is not happening until something happens..........back to you." 🙂 but according to sources, it's possible that something may happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, nucci said: but according to sources, it's possible that something may happen Sources say you are possibly correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, unbillievable said: Which would you rather see happen?  Bills trade 1st for CMC or Chiefs trade 1st for CMC The chiefs trade a 1st.   He’ll be hurt by the time the playoffs come around and then they’ll either cut him this offseason because his contract is too rich and lose their pick…..or pay him 8-10M a year going forward.  Win win Edited October 20, 2022 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 If it came to us dealing a first or the chiefs I’d rather it be us. Andy Reid with cmc would be insane. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/20/trade-deadline-rumors-panthers-rb-christian-mccaffrey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/20/trade-deadline-rumors-panthers-rb-christian-mccaffrey/ Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Steel City Mafia said: Â Â Agents doing what they are paid to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/what-is-fair-christian-mccaffrey-trade-compensation-heres-a-look-at-what-to-expect/amp/ Â Do you think this is fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BrooklynBills said: ESPN Charlotte reporter says could happen in the next 48 hours. The fact that this intensifying this week tells me that we could be the major player here.    Yes. If it's going to be us, the bye week makes sense. Get him in here by Monday so he can get settled and practice Wednesday, play SNF 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/what-is-fair-christian-mccaffrey-trade-compensation-heres-a-look-at-what-to-expect/amp/  Do you think this is fair? 2nd, 5th and Moss as a throw in....sure 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I’m so glad this thread is 66 pages long. It’s for a player we wont even  be getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Bills!Win! said: I’m so glad this thread is 66 pages long. It’s for a player we wont even  be getting  Wasn't Ertz over 100 pages?😆 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:  Yes. If it's going to be us, the bye week makes sense. Get him in here by Monday so he can get settled and practice Wednesday, play SNF 2nd, 5th and Moss as a throw in....sure This makes it seem that proper compensation would be a pick in the 30-50 range which would put it at a conditional 1st which is where I think the Bills would be willing to go. Also would mean that there would have to be some kind of agreement on a re-structured contract because they aren't paying that for a pure rental. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: This makes it seem that proper compensation would be a pick in the 30-50 range which would put it at a conditional 1st which is where I think the Bills would be willing to go. Also would mean that there would have to be some kind of agreement on a re-structured contract because they aren't paying that for a pure rental. What kind of conditions are able to be attached to the pick? Games played? AFC Championship? SB? A 2nd that becomes a 1st if we make SB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: I’m so glad this thread is 66 pages long. It’s for a player we wont even  be getting  It rivals another thread regarding a stadium we'll never see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:  It rivals another thread regarding a stadium we'll never see. Just gotta look harder for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 on one side it’s their super bowl window now and on the other they are on verge of maxing out the cap and need to hold on to their picks🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/what-is-fair-christian-mccaffrey-trade-compensation-heres-a-look-at-what-to-expect/amp/  Do you think this is fair? A 3rd rd pick + - 2024 4th rd pick + moss-  A 4th rd pick + cook.  Idk if Carolina views it as fair, but I wouldn’t really want to give up more.  If we did give up more, so be it.  I would just view it as overpaying for insurance.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Zack Moss straight up for Christian McCaffrey. Let's Go. Get it done, baby 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: What kind of conditions are able to be attached to the pick? Games played? AFC Championship? SB? A 2nd that becomes a 1st if we make SB?  games played and production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:  Wasn't Ertz over 100 pages?😆 And 50 pages of it was posters claiming he’s already washed.  Meanwhile, he’s been great in AZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 if the Bills acquire him, he will almost certainly be here through next season. His contract can be restructured to make his 23' cap hit only 4.8 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3rd and Singletary for CMC upgrades to 2nd if he plays in every game upgrades to 1st if he plays in the Superbowl. Â 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, unbillievable said: 3rd and Singletary for CMC upgrades to 2nd if he plays in every game upgrades to 1st if he plays in the Superbowl. Â I don't see why Carolina would want him as a pending UFAÂ unless Dan Morgan likes him / they plan to re-sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 ESPN reporter out of Charlotte: Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: ESPN reporter out of Charlotte: Â Â Â The timeframe makes it highly likely we're involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BrooklynBills said: ESPN Charlotte reporter says could happen in the next 48 hours. The fact that this intensifying this week tells me that we could be the major player here. Â Â If it's us it does make sense for it to happen with the bye week for him to learn the playbook, and before he plays another game. Edited October 20, 2022 by Warcodered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 It will be interesting to see if he’s activated this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said: on one side it’s their super bowl window now and on the other they are on verge of maxing out the cap and need to hold on to their picks🙈 They are not on the verge of maxing out their cap. They have several re-structure options available starting next season with Diggs, Miller, and/or Tre White. Knox and Allen in 2024 and Allen probably again in 2026.  Hyde and Morse likely aren't on the 2024 team.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I have my ear to the ground, and I thought I got some solid info on McC, but all it ended up being was some dirt in my ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 how about Isiah Mckenzie, Cook, and a 2nd for Cmc? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: It will be interesting to see if he’s activated this week I bet he's traded by Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, BrooklynBills said: They are not on the verge of maxing out their cap. They have several re-structure options available starting next season with Diggs, Miller, and/or Tre White. Knox and Allen in 2024 and Allen probably again in 2026. Â Hyde and Morse likely aren't on the 2024 team. Â A trade for CMC probably means Edmunds, and Poyer are gone next year. Oliver might go as well, unless he takes a discount. Â Â 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, unbillievable said: how about Isiah Mckenzie, Cook, and a 2nd for Cmc?   Is DJ Moore coming too? Just now, unbillievable said: A trade for CMC probably means Edmunds, and Poyer are gone next year. Oliver might go as well, unless he takes a discount.   No. It does not. His contract can be restructured to be only a 4.8 million cap hit next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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