YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) Edited September 30, 2022 by YoloinOhio 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 What could the penalty be if they violated it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Yolo thanks for posting...but the investigation is being initiated by the NFLPA not the NFL. Big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, MRW said: What could the penalty be if they violated it? Patriots get a comp pick... I kid, I kid... 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 What is Tua conceding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 "Investigation" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, MRW said: What could the penalty be if they violated it? An extra draft pick being assigned to New England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, MRW said: What could the penalty be if they violated it? They'll be told off for being naughty but nothing else. In all seriousness, it'd make more sense if they make him sit out the next game, but as this is NFLPA instigated instead of NFL, nothing will happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 This could be trouble for the dolphins. I can see some Monster fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The NFL wanted him in. 'Nuff said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I think I said this on the other Tua thread, but Peter King stated Tua was seen by an unafiliated doctor at the half who decided he was fit to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The dolphins can’t even clear him. Its the independent doctor on the hook here right??? Or did he never actually enter the concussion protocol?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The upshot is, he's made of glass. Milano and Epenesa last year are two nothing hits that put him out of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MRW said: What could the penalty be if they violated it? Should have to negate any points scored after injury while he was on the field. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: The upshot is, he's made of glass. Milano and Epenesa last year are two nothing hits that put him out of the game. the way his head snapped back after the push by Milano was kind of bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeDrip Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Honestly I don’t think the NFL can ignore this if they want to continue to sell the public on their concern for player safety. And the Dolphins have already given them a black eye this year with their tampering and tanking allegations. Did he even enter protocol? It went from head injury to back injury awfully quickly…. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: I think I said this on the other Tua thread, but Peter King stated Tua was seen by an unafiliated doctor at the half who decided he was fit to return. "Oh him, yeah he's fine." "This, oh I found it." 25 minutes ago, FormerlyPT5P said: Some of you are seriously talking about this as an excuse. The concern for the NFL is if it was safe for him to play, not if a concussed quarterback continuing to play was somehow "unfair" to the Bills. Weak. I'll agree with any prescribed punishments but the NFLPA doesn't give two ***** about his impact or the outcome of the game It's less about that and more like we all witnessed them breaking the rules. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, FormerlyPT5P said: So is roughing the passer. Punishable by yards. This will be a fine. Not some replay of two quarters with Teddy Bridgewater They might lose another draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Why did he not go straight to the NFL tent on the sidelines?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, FormerlyPT5P said: So is roughing the passer. Punishable by yards. This will be a fine. Not some replay of two quarters with Teddy Bridgewater Who are you even arguing against? No one believes that this will result in a do-over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, MRW said: Who are you even arguing against? No one believes that this will result in a do-over. I don't know I guess I got defensive I'm not really inserting the post I replied to or this exact thread topic into my first post. Just felt as good a place as any to comment on the outrage I saw in the game thread and elsewhere. 24 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It's less about that and more like we all witnessed them breaking the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, FormerlyPT5P said: I don't know I guess I got defensive I'm not really inserting the post I replied to or this exact thread topic into my first post. Just felt as good a place as any to comment on the outrage I saw in the game thread and elsewhere. Fair enough, I would agree that it would be ridiculous to point to this as a reason the Bills lost. But I think it does make a joke of the NFL talking about player safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, FormerlyPT5P said: I don't know I guess I got defensive I'm not really inserting the post I replied to or this exact thread topic into my first post. Just felt as good a place as any to comment on the outrage I saw in the game thread and elsewhere. We're reacting to it because we all saw it happen live, game wise don't care, but he was not well and shouldn't have been back out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: I think I said this on the other Tua thread, but Peter King stated Tua was seen by an unafiliated doctor at the half who decided he was fit to return. Isn't the whole point that there was video evidence of impairment and thus he can't return even if cleared. Edited September 25, 2022 by Ethan in Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, FormerlyPT5P said: Some of you are seriously talking about this as an excuse. The concern for the NFL is if it was safe for him to play, not if a concussed quarterback continuing to play was somehow "unfair" to the Bills. Weak. I'll agree with any prescribed punishments but the NFLPA doesn't give two ***** about his impact or the outcome of the game I literally dont see anyone arguing it was unfair to the bills in this thread... weak is that you think a discussion about concussion protocol is somehow complaining. Tua didnt do anything in the 2nd half. Wouldve made no difference him or bridgewater/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I admit that with him being all woozy, I was SURE it was a concussion. But he somehow passed the test, and played and looked fine. They have to see if the tests were well done... and if the tests themselves need some fixing. But the way Tua played and behaved he indeed looked as if nothing had happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: We're reacting to it because we all saw it happen live, game wise don't care, but he was not well and shouldn't have been back out there. 5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I literally dont see anyone arguing it was unfair to the bills in this thread... weak is that you think a discussion about concussion protocol is somehow complaining. Tua didnt do anything in the 2nd half. Wouldve made no difference him or bridgewater/ Yeah I get it. Didn't mean to imply anyone here shared that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Yeah, their coach was definitely overselling the back injury theme immediately after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: At first I thought maybe it was possible the stumble was his back, as I've had situations where my back locked up that almost took me to the ground - but upon further review that was obviously not what this was. I don't think the independent doctor will be doing concussion asessment for NFL games in the future 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Do we know if he was sent to the tent to be evaluated by the Dr.? Some seem to be questioning that. And aren't there supposed to be spotters in the press box who look for this kind of thing? I remember a controversy a few years ago when the coach (don't remember who) said he didn't see his QB acting woozy. After the controversy that caused there were supposed to be spotters who would alert the sideline that the player had to be seen in the tent. Maybe someone remembers the details on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Apparently Tua claimed it was a back injury where his back got hyperextended and his legs were wobbly when he got up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 These independent doctors are likely getting paid by the NFL to make themselves available for games. Of course they’re going to clear a player when reviewing them with a team doctor, that makes the review no longer independent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffbigalls Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 No the don't the independent neurologist determined he was not concussed, absolutely wouldn't clear him to come back in with a concussion, 2nd concussion syndrome is real. Do some research on jt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: This could be trouble for the dolphins. I can see some Monster fine. Not sure if this is a joke. If so, sorry. If not, do you think a ‘monster fine’ scares a billion dollar football team? Money is not the way the penalize.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Not sure if this is a joke. If so, sorry. If not, do you think a ‘monster fine’ scares a billion dollar football team? Money is not the way the penalize.. It’s actually not a joke, and I don’t disagree with you. That said, a fine is what will happen. They aren’t going to take away a draft pick or something like that for a violation like this. I would expect a big fine, and probably Some remedial action (new independent doctor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: It’s actually not a joke, and I don’t disagree with you. That said, a fine is what will happen. They aren’t going to take away a draft pick or something like that for a violation like this. I would expect a big fine, and probably Some remedial action (new independent doctor). I hear ya, but I feel like that means jack sh!t to teams. If it were the Bills, the mafia would offer to pay it. And if they didn’t, the owner would pull that cash out of their pockets. Money is never an object of concern. Fines are BS in pro sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) I'll admit fully it would have ben a huge break for The Bills...But in all honesty, when he was 1st stumbling I figured he was done. I really assumed there was no way the NFL was going to let him go back in that game. Just being honest, he looked real wobbly... Edited September 26, 2022 by KOKBILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Apparently Tua claimed it was a back injury where his back got hyperextended and his legs were wobbly when he got up Should of just said it was heat exhaustion from sitting in that shade all afternoon. Probably more believeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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