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I respect Shaw and enjoy almost all of his takes, but this is one, and a subject, that is best kept to oneself. 

 

Acknowledging his greatness as a football player is one thing.  It's the truth, the records exist and it's okay to go back and fondly relive the memories of watching him play.  Hell, even forgiving him in your heart for his egregious sins, while not a popular stance with 95% of human beings, is certainly within the realm of what I might find acceptable for a practicing Christian.  But wishing him well and hoping he's found peace?  I just can't see how someone who was such a bad person can ever be afforded this kind of compassion.   To me it feels like a violation of the Goldmans and Browns.  

 

I'm not one who thinks he should be taunted or attacked every day for the rest of his life by passersby - there's already enough hate and negative energy in the world - so I just say completely ignore him as if he no longer exists.  He is a man completely controlled by ego.  He needs to feel important, so ignore him and refuse to feed it.   

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2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Fell on tough times if he has to stay at the Courtyard. I mean, I stay at Courtyards but my life would be considered tough times for a celebrity…

Brand new across from airport. Legend of the game 

2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I just met OJ in the lobby of the Courtyard at the airport.  He was sitting with a couple of guys, just hanging out.  A few fans came up and asked for selfies.  I'm not a selfie guy. 

 

He was wearing a Bills cap with, of course, the standing buffalo.

 

He was relaxed and smiling.   He said he's doing well, and his kids are happy.  He said all is good when your kids are happy.  

 

I told him he's the subject of debate around here about the best Bills running back of all time, and that the old guys around here have to explain that it isn't Thurman.  One of his companions sat there, nodding his head and smiling.  

 

Man's been through a lot, and probably deservedly so.  Many think he deserved greater punishment.  He took what the system imposed on him and has moved on, and I'm happy for him if he's found some peace.    

 

 

I thought the debate was between Juice and Cookie?

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This is wackadoo level stuff from the OP.  

 

A likely murderer used the vast resources at his disposal and got a "not guilty" verdict as a result.  

 

The fact that you were star-struck seeing him and needed to go and tell him what a great RB you thought he was is just weird.  I can separate the man from the sport but I wouldn't go and idolize him if I saw him, I'd be grossed out, because he's a gross man who likely killed his wife. 

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2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Shaw, you’re a forgiving man.  He recvd just punishment for the later crimes, but too murder you're wife and her lover is disgraceful.  
 

Why the guy didn’t just divorce her is beyond me.  I’m now happily divorced, but I’d never wish any harm on my ex.  
 

Even if she was horrible, I don’t possess the gene to kill someone unless my kids lives were at risk.

Jesus forgave 

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4 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Jesus forgave 

“If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.”

 

Luke 17:3-4

 

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

 

1 John 1:9

 

Still waiting on OJ's confession and repentance. 

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5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

This is wackadoo level stuff from the OP.  

 

A likely murderer used the vast resources at his disposal and got a "not guilty" verdict as a result.  

 

The fact that you were star-struck seeing him and needed to go and tell him what a great RB you thought he was is just weird.  I can separate the man from the sport but I wouldn't go and idolize him if I saw him, I'd be grossed out, because he's a gross man who likely killed his wife. 

How did the resources work out for Epstein and Weinstein?

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2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Shaw, you’re a forgiving man.  He recvd just punishment for the later crimes, but too murder you're wife and her lover is disgraceful.  
 

Why the guy didn’t just divorce her is beyond me.  I’m now happily divorced, but I’d never wish any harm on my ex.  
 

Even if she was horrible, I don’t possess the gene to kill someone unless my kids lives were at risk.

This is, of course, a subject of massive debate. However, it can easily be argued that he received an unjustified sentence for the robbery crimes to make up for the unjustified acquittal on his murder charge. OJ received a sentence of 33 years for the robbery case. That sentence is more than many receive for murder or attempted murder. It seems like the universe (or the judge) tried to correct the clearly incorrect acquittal of murder by imposing an exceptionally harsh sentence for the robbery. 

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10 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

This is wackadoo level stuff from the OP.  

 

A likely murderer used the vast resources at his disposal and got a "not guilty" verdict as a result.  

 

The fact that you were star-struck seeing him and needed to go and tell him what a great RB you thought he was is just weird.  I can separate the man from the sport but I wouldn't go and idolize him if I saw him, I'd be grossed out, because he's a gross man who likely killed his wife. 

As someone who threw out his OJ jersey the day of the murders because I was certain he had done them, I am with you.

5 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

How did the resources work out for Epstein and Weinstein?

I can state for the record that a LOT of people in WNY knew what kind of sleazeball Harvey Weinstein was back when there was Harvey and Corky.  How he got as far as he did still baffles me.

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23 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

what was the son's motive?  I did read about it a long time ago, and it's still wrong morally as you point out.  But it does put him in a bit different light.  But the fact that OJ also went bizzark getting alleged property back and did time for that makes it more likely to me he did the murder as well (unhinged guy)

 

The theory goes that it was a combo of rage and jealousy, some things he said in his deposition point that he might have had a “thing” for Nicole. He also had a history of violence, including assaulting a gf with a knife. 

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10 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

How did the resources work out for Epstein and Weinstein?

In all seriousness: Do you think this is some kind of "got ya"? Do you believe that the mere fact that sometimes powerful people are convicted of crimes they obviously committed that it invalidates what I'm saying? 

 

Your two examples aren't even contemporaries of the OJ trial.  They happened decades later with completely different circumstances.  They're not even murder trials. 

 

What's your point in bringing these two people up? I legitimately don't see one. 

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1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

 

Let's say hypothetically OJ did kill both Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman ... 

 

Does he deserve peace? Think about the parents of Nicole and Ron. Think about them, themselves. They never get to spend another day on earth.

 

If this were purely a football thread, I'd say yeah, he's a wonderful football player. But we seem to be talking about his character and his mental state, so I don't particularly hope he's relaxing and happy given what he allegedly did.

 

***** Fred Goldman. :thumbdown:

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I loved watching him at USC, then even more as a Buffalo Bill.   I was a huge fan.   I remember the 70's when for a short period the Bills, Sabres and Braves were all strong teams.  

 

Since the murder of his his wife and her boyfriend I prefer no association.   I try not to judge because I only know what was in the media and it sure paints a compelling case against him.   The trial looked like a circus to me.  His money helped him immensely.  

 

If I saw him in the Courtyard I would not have acknowledged him.  I wish he was a not out parading as a Bills fan.  

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2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Actually, I'm a lawyer who knows some things about personal wealth planning and I represented a guy on his way to prison for life for killing his wife, and all we talked about was ways to preserve his wealth so he could use it to take care of his kids.  OJ had better lawyers than that guy.  

 

I can't imagine the Bills are going to be all that welcoming to his efforts to re-connect with the team, and I would think that OJ or his people are smart enough to understand that.   Still, there are a lot of fans - like me - who are willing to look past the ugliness, remember his greatness. and ask for a selfie. 

 

 

See, that is what makes us different... I am an empath and could NEVER be a defense attorney or an attorney for a serious criminal or something like that. I have no tolerance for people like that and I would walk the other way. To me there is no real separation between the way a person conducts themselves and what they do no matter if they are a football player for my favorite team as in this example. Bill Cosby and Kevin Spacey are two more examples... I just can't watch anything they appear in without being disgusted.

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6 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

See, that is what makes us different... I am an empath and could NEVER be a defense attorney or an attorney for a serious criminal or something like that. I have no tolerance for people like that and I would walk the other way. To me there is no real separation between the way a person conducts themselves and what they do no matter if they are a football player for my favorite team as in this example. Bill Cosby and Kevin Spacey are two more examples... I just can't watch anything they appear in without being disgusted.

I think the should hang a black curtain over it

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16 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

See, that is what makes us different... I am an empath and could NEVER be a defense attorney or an attorney for a serious criminal or something like that. I have no tolerance for people like that and I would walk the other way. To me there is no real separation between the way a person conducts themselves and what they do no matter if they are a football player for my favorite team as in this example. Bill Cosby and Kevin Spacey are two more examples... I just can't watch anything they appear in without being disgusted.

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