Warriorspikes51 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle Edited September 12, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 1 3 4 1 1 6 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CoudyBills Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle He has no instinct at all as a 4 - 3 edge. This was discussed in depth last year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, mrags said: I’m not talking full time….I mean 5-10 times a game at the most. Seems like a good way to utilize his size and speed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle Don’t get @BADOLBILZstarted on edmunds blitzing ability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 The defense has worked well as is, don't fix what isn't broken. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CoudyBills said: He has no instinct at all as a 4 - 3 edge. This was discussed in depth last year. Have we ever tried him there? I didn’t have a chance to read the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Merge thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 So… you think that Edmunds would be an upgrade over Von, Groot, Basham, and Epenesa and we should put him in at 4-3 End … because you’d rather have Dodson, Bernard, or Specter at ILB? Why would we downgrade two positions for absolutely no reason… 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I'm okay with our current EDGE players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m not talking full time….I mean 5-10 times a game at the most. Seems like a good way to utilize his size and speed Save you the trouble @mrags Edited September 12, 2022 by The Wiz 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle We didn't blitz once Thursday, we would rather not blitz if we don't have to. Edmunds played a great game against the Rams, to think any of the 3 that you mentioned would have played nearly as well is insane. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 When he plays edge he’s called Edwards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle He’s terrible as a blitzer up the middle. So no Edited September 12, 2022 by FireChans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I don't know why this board is obsessed with moving Edumonds around. Edumonds may not be the strongest in run defense but he is pretty dam good in coverage for a team that values more coverage in the scheme from linebackers. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rigotz said: So… you think that Edmunds would be an upgrade over Von, Groot, Basham, and Epenesa and we should put him in at 4-3 End … because you’d rather have Dodson, Bernard, or Specter at ILB? Why would we downgrade two positions for absolutely no reason… No I mean Edmunds could be lined up on the Edge next to Von as a 5 man front on some looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 He’d probably be an elite TE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Don’t get @BADOLBILZstarted on edmunds blitzing ability Oh yeah.......he certainly hasn't been able to blitz. He's built to play close to the LOS and rush the passer but even if he had been trained for that not all good pass rushers are good at blitzing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rigotz said: So… you think that Edmunds would be an upgrade over Von, Groot, Basham, and Epenesa and we should put him in at 4-3 End … because you’d rather have Dodson, Bernard, or Specter at ILB? Why would we downgrade two positions for absolutely no reason… No, he's suggesting lining Edmunds up on the edge outside of Von, so there's five on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 He regularly gets destroyed by backs and receivers blocking him. Put him against an Olineman every play he wouldn't last a series let alone a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Oh yeah.......he certainly hasn't been able to blitz. He's built to play close to the LOS and rush the passer but even if he had been trained for that not all good pass rushers are good at blitzing. The op says he has looked good as a Blitzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Don’t you think we also have enough depth at an edge position We literally made Shaq Lawson inactive this past week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He’d probably be an elite TE. Anyone know if he can hold?!?!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 https://www.google.com/search?q=this+is+the+song+that+never+ends&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS1021US1022&oq=this&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i67l2j69i60l3.4342j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f15db949,vid:xz6OGVCdov8,st:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m not talking full time….I mean 5-10 times a game at the most. Seems like a good way to utilize his size and speed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle Lol sure lets sit Von Miller or Groot to get Edmunds some snaps at the Edge. Oliver at DE, Knox at QB and Josh at TE to follow. 😎 Edited September 12, 2022 by freddyjj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Oh good, this thread again. Don't fix what ain't broke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Save you the trouble @mrags Haha. Crap I didn’t see it before I replied again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 I guess I wasn’t clear. I’m talking about putting him outside of Von as a 5 man front overloaded on one side. It would only be a situational formation used a few times per game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 This D line just got 7 sacks without blitzing, no need to fix what isn't broken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, buffalo2218 said: This D line just got 7 sacks without blitzing, no need to fix what isn't broken Not fixing anything, just adding in new looks no one has seen on film…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QLBillsFan Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think we have enough depth at LB with Dodson Bernard and Spector that we should try some 4-3 overloaded blitz looks with Tremaine next to Von. Edmunds really needs to make impact plays and this would give him more opportunities he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle Hmm why would we move an above average run mlb, who is elite in coverage ? To the edge where we have DE’s who have played the position in college and now the pros. How does this help the Bills ? Bernard has potential but is undersized in the run game. Spector had a nice pre season but would be exposed in the pass game. Edmunds forced Stafford to make difficult throws or didn’t try due to his wingspan. Would we like to see him more dominant i the run game? Sure, guessing he will do better with this group of DT’s. Pass coverage he is outstanding in. Don’t get the logic🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Have you ever watched this guy try and rush the passer ? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The op says he has looked good as a Blitzer Yeah I know. He's terrible as a blitzer. Greg Rousseau and AJ Epenesa don't look like they would have any success as blitzers either. Most impactful performance against a good opponent in the regular season in Edmunds career was probably the game at San Fran in 2020.........and that's one of the few times they've used him on the LOS. Playing off the ball is just way too much post-snap thinking for Tremaine for him to be able to make plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: No I mean Edmunds could be lined up on the Edge next to Von as a 5 man front on some looks Ok… so 4 down linemen, plus Edmunds down… that’s 5 D-Linemen. I assume you would want at least two linebackers (Dodson and Milano) and two Safeties … which leaves two corners. That means you’re taking Taron Johnson off the field. So, you think our best defense is: 5 DL 2 LB: Dodson and Milano 2 CB: Elam and Jackson 2 S: Hyde and Poyer Do you see any issues with that against a team that might want to pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I’m gonna get in on this too, So here goes…, NO!! Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Freddie's Dead Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: he’s looked good in my opinion when used as a blitzer up the middle The Edmunds Report disagrees with this statement. Edmunds has shown a remarkable inability to rush the passer. It's a complete waste of his talent, which is exclusively coverage. He takes away throwing lanes and covers TE's and RB's so much that they rarely throw his way. This is why people hate him, because he is not an MLB in the Urlacher/Kuechly mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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