Wizard Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 We all have our favorite 2-3 guys that we want on the 53 man roster. For me, Matt Barkley is one of those guys. I get it. He's the 3rd string QB on most predictions. He likely would be inactive each week, but he can still fill-in I just think what he adds to the QB room, his knowledge of the offense, and his willingness to try to fill a hole in a pich is valuable. So, who do I cut? I would cut whomever is the 5th or 6th special teams guy or that 9th or 7th guy at a position. 1 1 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wizard said: We all have our favorite 2-3 guys that we want on the 53 man roster. For me, Matt Barkley is one of those guys. I get it. He's the 3rd string QB on most predictions. He likely would be inactive each week, but he can still fill-in I just think what he adds to the QB room, his knowledge of the offense, and his willingness to try to fill a hole in a pich is valuable. So, who do I cut? I would cut whomever is the 5th or 6th special teams guy or that 9th or 7th guy at a position. He's not a good backup QB option. The people pondering whether he is as good as Keenum clearly don't follow the rest of the NFL because Barkley is flat-out terrible and Keenum can actually play QB in the NFL. It's not close. He can be a cheerleader on the practice squad or he can bounce around between teams again. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just keep him as punter. Let him focus on punting, then if you need an emergency QB, he's available. Knock on wood. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Keenum didn't show as a better option than Barkley. I just love the fact that he was willing to do whatever including punting during the preseason because it was needed. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) I'm 98% sure that he will be cutted and then placed on the practice squad to be this year's Davis Webb. It's highly doubtful that someone else pick him up and put him on their 53 at cutdown. Edited August 28, 2022 by Billy Claude removed reference to waivers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I think the plan is to cut him knowing he will sign here to be on the practice squad. I think by all indications he wants to be here and can still be a valuable sounding board even though not active on game day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Practice squad 1 minute ago, Billy Claude said: I'm 98% sure that he will be waived and then placed on the practice squad and play the Davis Webb role from last year. It's highly doubtful that someone else pick him up off waivers and put him on their 53 at cutdown. He’s not subject to waivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 He'll be placed on the practice squad and it's highly unlikely anyone will come in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Practice squad He’s not subject to waivers. Right -- I forgot. I will fix it. In any case, I doubt that any team will pick him up for their 53 and I assume he would rather be in the Bill's practice squad than another teams. Edited August 28, 2022 by Billy Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 What is the current practice squad salary, or can it vary from player to player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Barkley might be the worst qb in the nfl. Really nice guy and the best part of last game was him punting. But he is horrible. Nice guy though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 For the 573rd time, we are not wasting a roster spot on Matt Barkley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Barkley might be the worst qb in the nfl. Really nice guy and the best part of last game was him punting. But he is horrible. Nice guy though. Maybe second worst….see Mac Jones for arm strength comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Maybe second worst….see Mac Jones for arm strength comparison. Fellas, Nate Peterman is still alive and well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 He's definitely not the worst. Wouldn't want him as the #2 even with Keenum looking mostly awful. He'll be on the practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, BTB said: What is the current practice squad salary, or can it vary from player to player? $207k per year. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Fellas, Nate Peterman is still alive and well. if he can throw just one TD pass a year…he will break even on TD/INT ratio in 9 years. Edited August 28, 2022 by ControllerOfPlanetX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Wizard said: We all have our favorite 2-3 guys that we want on the 53 man roster. For me, Matt Barkley is one of those guys. I get it. He's the 3rd string QB on most predictions. He likely would be inactive each week, but he can still fill-in I just think what he adds to the QB room, his knowledge of the offense, and his willingness to try to fill a hole in a pich is valuable. So, who do I cut? I would cut whomever is the 5th or 6th special teams guy or that 9th or 7th guy at a position. He can do all that cheerleading stuff as a member of the Practice Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Practice squad and he will be content I’m sure. He’s not going to be picked up for any team’s 53. For some reason I do see coaching in his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) He'll go to the practice squad. Won't be picked up on waivers cuz he's been in the league more than 4 years. Plus, I'm pretty confident he wants to be here, even if it's just the ps Edited August 28, 2022 by Steptide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: $207k per year. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little more. Damn. You would think it would be tiered where players with a certain number of years would bet more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said: Keenum didn't show as a better option than Barkley. I just love the fact that he was willing to do whatever including punting during the preseason because it was needed. In the 1st and 3rd games Keenum played with our 2nd string against the other teams 1st - 2nd string. In the one game where he played with our starters he looked good. Aside from that, Keenum and Barkley both have large books of work (including training camp this year) that indicate Keenum is the better option. There's also a salary cap / financial implication to cutting Keenum. Keenum's gonna be the backup, with Barkley on the practice squad. 6 minutes ago, BTB said: Damn. You would think it would be tiered where players with a certain number of years would bet more. It is https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nfl+practice+squad+salary Practice Squad minimum salary: $9,200 per week or $165,600 for 18 weeks. Practice squad salary for veterans with 2+ years of experience: Approximately $14,000 per week or $252,000 for 18 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: In the 1st and 3rd games Keenum played with our 2nd string against the other teams 1st - 2nd string. In the one game where he played with our starters he looked good. Aside from that, Keenum and Barkley both have large books of work (including training camp this year) that indicate Keenum is the better option. There's also a salary cap / financial implication to cutting Keenum. Keenum's gonna be the backup, with Barkley on the practice squad. It is https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nfl+practice+squad+salary Practice Squad minimum salary: $9,200 per week or $165,600 for 18 weeks. Practice squad salary for veterans with 2+ years of experience: Approximately $14,000 per week or $252,000 for 18 weeks. There is also a financial benefit to cutting him. Not saying that they will but he isn't necessarily looking sharp either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Billy Claude said: Right -- I forgot. I will fix it. In any case, I doubt that any team will pick him up for their 53 and I assume he would rather be in the Bill's practice squad than another teams. Yes he would have to be given quite the offer to leave the Bills imho. He and his family likely were thrilled to return to the area and the team. Barkley has earned a decent amount in his time in nfl so money alone likely isn't gonna entice him and his skillset is not a starting qb really or he'd already have secured a spot with the utter lack of qb talent that was in the NFL when he got drafted. That low level of talent for starting qb has risen somewhat but still not sufficient to fill the backup and vet roles in wb rooms with options better than Barkley. He's also likely on a team friendly salary. 1 hour ago, Captain Caveman said: In the 1st and 3rd games Keenum played with our 2nd string against the other teams 1st - 2nd string. In the one game where he played with our starters he looked good. Aside from that, Keenum and Barkley both have large books of work (including training camp this year) that indicate Keenum is the better option. There's also a salary cap / financial implication to cutting Keenum. Keenum's gonna be the backup, with Barkley on the practice squad. It is https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nfl+practice+squad+salary Practice Squad minimum salary: $9,200 per week or $165,600 for 18 weeks. Practice squad salary for veterans with 2+ years of experience: Approximately $14,000 per week or $252,000 for 18 weeks. I also believe there is nothing preventing a team of giving some sort of signing bonus to a player they put on the PS. So Bills could send a lil bonus his way to offset the money differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Billy Claude said: I'm 98% sure that he will be cutted and then placed on the practice squad to be this year's Davis Webb. It's highly doubtful that someone else pick him up and put him on their 53 at cutdown. Bang. PS, and the team has the discretion to give him more than the minimum. They can sweeten a little and he probably won’t be poached. It’s the smart move. He’ll be here IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Helped set the league record for number of Matts to punt for one team in a single preseason. Unlikely to ever be broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Wizard said: We all have our favorite 2-3 guys that we want on the 53 man roster. For me, Matt Barkley is one of those guys. I get it. He's the 3rd string QB on most predictions. He likely would be inactive each week, but he can still fill-in I just think what he adds to the QB room, his knowledge of the offense, and his willingness to try to fill a hole in a pich is valuable. So, who do I cut? I would cut whomever is the 5th or 6th special teams guy or that 9th or 7th guy at a position. I will admit, I immediately felt bad for Barkley as a person when we traded for Keenum. He and Josh are close, the team loves him, he loves being here. He is a fun guy and good energy on the team. But, end of the day, it is really hard to imagine or even justify keeping a 3rd QB. And Keenum is just a better QB, so as much as I like the guy, he won't be on the team IMHO. And he clearly loves it here, so feel bad for him, but its the right football decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Just keep him as punter. Let him focus on punting, then if you need an emergency QB, he's available. Knock on wood. Plus, then you have the Holding Specialist as recommended by @BringBackFergy. Besides the emergency QB option and the holding specialist, adds another threat of fakes to the field goal and punting formations. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said: There is also a financial benefit to cutting him. Not saying that they will but he isn't necessarily looking sharp either Is there? From what I can tell his entire contract this year ($3.5 million is guaranteed) and he's off the books after this year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/case-keenum-10079/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said: Keenum didn't show as a better option than Barkley. I just love the fact that he was willing to do whatever including punting during the preseason because it was needed. Look at Keenum and Barkley career stats.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, Bills2022 said: I would keep Barkley over Keenum. I see no reason to spend millions extra on a backup QB. It's already spent, his full contract is guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: Is there? From what I can tell his entire contract this year ($3.5 million is guaranteed) and he's off the books after this year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/case-keenum-10079/ All of his guaranteed money was cleared when he was traded. He has no dead cap hit right now. His salary will guarantee after the cutdown. Not that I want the Bills to cut him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Just keep him as punter. Let him focus on punting, then if you need an emergency QB, he's available. Knock on wood. I assume you are kidding but I admire his effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: $207k per year. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little more. He is here for 2 reasons .. 1) a great voice in Josh’s ear and who Josh respects; 2) to continue to build his credibility as a future QB coach .. which is the best path to OC and then HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I wonder though about having only 2 active QBs, isn't that a risk? There must be a reason most teams have 3 QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Anybody else missing Mitchell right about now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Cut him and PS roster. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Georgie said: I assume you are kidding but I admire his effort. I guess if you could talk to him about if you can keep him in that role until you find someone but he'd have to be cool with being on the team in a spot he's going to get cut for instead of potentially out there to get picked up by another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: He is here for 2 reasons .. 1) a great voice in Josh’s ear and who Josh respects; 2) to continue to build his credibility as a future QB coach .. which is the best path to OC and then HC He should get some lucrative Buffalo endorsements. Put him on the Practice squad and get him some car dealership and restaurant endorsements. He might be the most popular player on the Bills right now after his punting job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: I wonder though about having only 2 active QBs, isn't that a risk? There must be a reason most teams have 3 QBs. If Barkley is on the PS I see minimal risk. He can be activated if needed. The only risk is having 2 QBs going down in one game. Even if it happens, I'm sure the chances of QB3 coming in cold off the bench and winning that game are not great. With the new rules allowing a PS player to get "elevated" for a game a couple times a year more teams are keeping only 2 QBs than ever before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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