Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Buffalosouth said: What else do we do with preseason cuts of guys who don't make the team? Deify them here on The Stadium Wall. 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, Draconator said: It's funny how 80's numbers have become reserve "you're probably not making the team" numbers now. They were the real WR numbers back in the day 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 All of you who were watching the punting 'competition' like a Haack can relax now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Belinda Thanks to Haack for some good games but this makes sense. PG's 82 yard punt must have been the nail in his coffin We hardly knew Austin. Retirement should be next for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, sir andrew said: Confirmed on the Bills FB page. Kinda surprised it took this long for Haack. We know Araiza has the leg for the long punts and that's great. But, has he demonstrated that he also has the touch for pinning a team deep? I'm not sold on releasing Haack is a good thing. At least not yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Damn…. The way fans were talking about Austin just a few weeks ago I thought Allen was going to make him an all pro. 😅 Pads came on and his disappeared. Bills let him run his commercial during the end of the game Saturday. Hopefully that earns him another look on a team who can use a decent PR and vet presence in the WR room. The Bills isn’t that team this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: The Bills app sent a notification saying team released 2 players including a punter. I just downloaded the Bills app Saturday and I just saw the notification! 34 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Can you imagine the epic troll job that would have been had they cut Araiza? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I hope Haack doesn't get called up by another team and just pulls a 'George Costanza' and shows up at the airport on Thursday as if he was never let go. Can you see him looking at McDermott with a baffled expression of 'whaaat'? That? I wasn't even trying to punt good. I was just warming up for the Rams game. Didn't want to pull a hammy before the opener. Sooo, is there a window seat available seat up front?' 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, BigPappy said: We know Araiza has the leg for the long punts and that's great. But, has he demonstrated that he also has the touch for pinning a team deep? I'm not sold on releasing Haack is a good thing. At least not yet. All they really needed to see if he was a reliable holder or not. His talent is too extreme not to allow him to work on that other stuff! Our offense and defense and even special teams coverage is so great we can afford to be patient with a generational talent at Punter. 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoMAn said: I hope Haack doesn't get called up by another team and just pulls a 'George Costanza' and shows up at the airport on Thursday as if he was never let go. Can you see him looking at McDermott with a baffled expression of 'whaaat'? That? I wasn't even trying to punt good. I was just warming up for the Rams game. Didn't want to pull a hammy before the opener. Sooo, is there a window seat available seat up front?' Q: "Who's the fellow up front with the wheel chair, pre boarding? Two baggage handlers just carried him up the boarding ramp." A: "Haack, just being cautious..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, jaybee said: Whatever happened to T Austin? I lost track of his career but I remember him being a highly praised top receiver coming into the draft back in 13 or 14. Was he injured or did he jst kind of flame out ? Kind of both. The Lambs in '13-'15 had some Baaaa aaaaa aaaaad offenses for different reasons. Austin did kind of a Watkins/Zay Jones flameout when he had opportunities his first couple years (a lot of dropped passes). They had a couple of years of horrible offense in which everyone looked bad. Then Austin started to get injured a lot. John Brown had a more productive career, but at his start in AZ he had a real NFL QB (Carson Palmer) in a real NFL offense led by Bruce Arians and a real NFL #1 (Larry Fitzgerald) playing ahead of him and teaching him the ropes. Edited August 22, 2022 by Beck Water 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Haack put two perfect kicks on tape in the preseason and applied needed pressure on Araiza. Hopefully he’s picked up and the organization looks good for helping out both kickers. The front office realizes Araiza could literally cost us a game or two this year, but it’s worth the risk for the potential rewards over the next decade. Edited August 22, 2022 by Charles Romes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Haack put two perfect kicks on tape in the preseason and applied needed pressure on Araiza. Hopefully he’s picked up and the organization looks good for helping out both kickers. The front office realizes Araiza could literally cost us a game or two this year, but it’s worth the risk for the potential rewards over the next decade. How do you figure Araiza could "literally cost us a game or two" this year? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 They so should have given Araiza that punt in the last game. Araiza winning the job was a near 100% certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, BigPappy said: We know Araiza has the leg for the long punts and that's great. But, has he demonstrated that he also has the touch for pinning a team deep? I'm not sold on releasing Haack is a good thing. At least not yet. Did you watch the Jests game this past Jan.? Most of us were 'sold' on releasing Haack BEFORE this game. Yet you are still unsure?? 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: How do you figure Araiza could "literally cost us a game or two" this year? It doesn’t figure. Don’t bother trying to figure it out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 What the Haack are they thinking cutting the "Punt Fraud"? The Patriots are going to sign him for a week and get the inside scoop on our whole operation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Haack put two perfect kicks on tape in the preseason and applied needed pressure on Araiza. Hopefully he’s picked up and the organization looks good for helping out both kickers. The front office realizes Araiza could literally cost us a game or two this year, but it’s worth the risk for the potential rewards over the next decade. 1. We have different definitions of "Perfect" 2. The front office realizes Araiza would literally win us a game or two by flipping field position at the right time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, BigPappy said: We know Araiza has the leg for the long punts and that's great. But, has he demonstrated that he also has the touch for pinning a team deep? I'm not sold on releasing Haack is a good thing. At least not yet. I’m guessing he’s demonstrated he can do it in practice week after week. It’s not difficult to simulate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-release-two-players Weird how the Bills website titles it "a punter and a wide receiver" c'mon Jenkins "Senior Director of Content" these guys have names. Two down, two to go I think they drafted a left footed punter this year, before the punt god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, mrags said: It doesn’t figure. Don’t bother trying to figure it out. LOL I wasn't planning to put any brain sweat into it, but I figured this @Charles Romes who said it might expound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Great, now Haack is going to get picked up by the Patriots and punt to us for the next 10 years One can hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m guessing he’s demonstrated he can do it in practice week after week. It’s not difficult to simulate. Even if he's still working on it his freakish talent gives him room to work on it. He figures that out and he's a HOF level punter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, stosh64 said: Did you watch the Jests game this past Jan.? Most of us were 'sold' on releasing Haack BEFORE this game. Yet you are still unsure?? This clip perfectly encapsulates my viewpoint on Haack. As a holder, he was a sigh of relief after Bojo's antics. As a punter, he was a complete adventure. You never knew what you were going to get. Might be a perfect "coffin corner" pin. Might flip the field. Or, might be a blocked punt, or a dropped snap, or a shank. I don't *think* Haack actually cost us a game last season, but it wasn't for want of trying. Edited August 22, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I wish them both well. Thanks for your interest in the Buffalo Bills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I thought they had to release three players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Rockinon said: I thought they had to release three players? 4 by (I think) 4pm tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Just a minor issue but I am not sure I like this kind of reporting. I guess that for somebody who doesn't know much about cap space this indicates that we now have $1.135M more free cap space, which is not correct. You have to replace Haack's salary with somebody else, which in this case will be PG and his $760K or so. So we actually save much less. Not a big deal I know. Edited August 22, 2022 by No_Matter_What 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I don’t know how they are going to afford Araiza’s contract in 4 years. I guess Allen will need to take a pay cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I know people caught on to the availability of #3 now for OBJ, but how did you also not see the simultaneous opening up of a WR position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Beck Water said: This clip perfectly encapsulates my viewpoint on Haack. As a holder, he was a sigh of relief after Bojo's antics. As a punter, he was a complete adventure. You never knew what you were going to get. Might be a perfect "coffin corner" pin. Might flip the field. Or, might be a blocked punt, or a dropped snap, or a shank. I don't *think* Haack actually cost us a game last season, but it wasn't for want of trying. Steelers game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, BigPappy said: We know Araiza has the leg for the long punts and that's great. But, has he demonstrated that he also has the touch for pinning a team deep? I'm not sold on releasing Haack is a good thing. At least not yet. I am...the Bills rarely punt, and typically go for it whenever they are in "No Man's Land", so the majority of punts that will be happening will be in situations where they are backed up in their own end. As such, flipping field position like that is invaluable. 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Steelers game. Lack of offense in the 2nd half cost us that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Lack of offense in the 2nd half cost us that game. When a punter is costing you a game usually something else is involved as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Haack put two perfect kicks on tape in the preseason and applied needed pressure on Araiza. Hopefully he’s picked up and the organization looks good for helping out both kickers. The front office realizes Araiza could literally cost us a game or two this year, but it’s worth the risk for the potential rewards over the next decade. Even for a below average punter the odds of directly losing a game from a poor punt is so small it’s not even worth consideration. Not saying it’s never happened or couldn’t happen but it’s unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 The Bills were tied with the 4th fewest punts in the NFL last season. Don't see that changing too much this year. I wonder if there is a prop bet on Araiza uncorking a 90 yarder this season? Might be a fun wager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Steelers game. 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Lack of offense in the 2nd half cost us that game. Steelers game is correct. We were not good offensively in that game but a blocked punt for a TD all because he took incredibly way to long to get the punt off cost us the game 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Kudos to Haack. By all accounts very professional and helpful in bringing along the rook who he knew was taking his job. Hope he catches on somewhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 If you are a football team going into a brand new season and your thoughts on your punter are "he may cost us a game or 2" that guy needs to be cut I don't think our punter will have that amount of pull on this team to cost us anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, BigPappy said: We know Araiza has the leg for the long punts and that's great. But, has he demonstrated that he also has the touch for pinning a team deep? I'm not sold on releasing Haack is a good thing. At least not yet. The team hasn’t punted much at all the last couple of years (just under 3 punts per game on average). They have especially been more aggressive of late around mid field. Worst case, if Araiza boots it into the end zone once or twice per game, we lose maybe 10 yards of field position. That’s not too consequential if the trade off is he can uncork an 80 yarder once in a while and truly flip the field if we find ourselves in a bad spot. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Steelers game. Fair. Technically, the Steelers had already taken the lead at the point where the blocked punt was returned for a TD, and the Bills only scored 2 FG so with the Steelers FG and without the blocked punt TD, that would have tied it. But it had to have been a morale-buster, so your point is valid That game was such a CF that I forget it was actually close outside of the ST SNAFU Edited August 22, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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